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Old May 28th, 2014, 11:00 PM   #2581
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When was the first motorway/or motorway-type (2 lanes each direction) built?
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Old May 28th, 2014, 11:14 PM   #2582
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E6 northeast of Oslo is often mentioned as the first motorway in Norway. It opened in 1964.

However some parts of Ring 3 are slightly older, for example a segment in Oslo-Ulven opened in 1962.
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Old May 29th, 2014, 07:11 AM   #2583
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It's just to avoid the ramps... the cycle bridge would have been too steep to overcome them.
If I were a pedestrian living there there is absolute no chance I would be using it, I'd rather take my chances with the traffic. Pedestrians do straight lines, they don't do detours. Bicyclists may take some, but that one is too ridiculous.

This is a bicycle path for the bureaucracy ("In this project we added 1 km of bicycle paths").
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Old May 29th, 2014, 10:31 AM   #2584
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It's a luxury there is any facility for pedestrians or cyclists anyway. It doesn't go anywhere to the right, just some kind of mining operation and one or two scrap yards.
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Old May 29th, 2014, 03:14 PM   #2585
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E6 northeast of Oslo is often mentioned as the first motorway in Norway. It opened in 1964.

However some parts of Ring 3 are slightly older, for example a segment in Oslo-Ulven opened in 1962.
Ring 3 had both pedestrian crossings and at grade intersection at that time. The longest stretch that was motorway like was about 1 km long.

There are actually four different stretches that has been mentioned as "Norway's first motorway".

A 1,8 km stretch around Asker sentrum west of Oslo was mentioned as Norways first motorway in VG 1962.
The 5,5 km stretch from Hvam to Berger east of Oslo was then called Norway's first motorway in VG 1964.
In 2000, E18 Lierbakkene was preserved with the reason of being the first motorway in Norway. However, a search on Lierbakkene suggest that was first built in 1965. As VG in 1965 mention that the rebuilding of Lierbakkene has received money.

Then, an interview in January 2014 with Gunnar Tveit, project manager of E 18 through Asker and Bærum, claims that the first motorway was a section opened in 1961 between "Oslo West" and Blommenholm in Bærum. However, an article in 1977 claims that E 18 between Sandvika and Oslo is not of full motorway standard. Which then would include the mentioned stretch. As far as I know, the official motorway still ends at Blommenholm towards Oslo.

So I guess the honour stands between the Asker section, and the Hvam - Berger section. However, I'm quite sure Hvam - Berger was the first motorway to have the same standard as continental motorways. Something quite a lot of Norwegian motorways don't have today. VG also write "the first real motorway". And "built by international standards". It also specifically mentions a total road width of 26 meters. Including a 6 meter central field. And designed for speeds of 100-120 km/h. That's not the case of the Asker section.
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Old June 2nd, 2014, 04:39 PM   #2586
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NRK with some articles about the highway construction going on right now. Both are in Norwegian, but the second one has a 10 min video (which I hope is available outside Norway) where they fly over the E18 Mjøsa construction site.

Largest road construction since the railway was built.
A different town

(oh, if someone knows how to embed those NRK vids on here, please let me know)
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Old June 2nd, 2014, 07:50 PM   #2587
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There is a roundabout in Hundsvag so this should not be called motorway-like, should it?
Rv. 13 will be signed (according to 3D animations) as Motortrafikkvei, at least until the roundabout in Hundvåg. The next tunnel, Ryfylke tunnel, will probably also be signed similarly, to avoid slow moving traffic and dangerous situations in this long tunnel. Pedestrians and bicycles will definitely be prohibited.
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Old June 2nd, 2014, 09:17 PM   #2588
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NRK with some articles about the highway construction going on right now. Both are in Norwegian, but the second one has a 10 min video (which I hope is available outside Norway) where they fly over the E18 Mjøsa construction site.

Largest road construction since the railway was built.
A different town

(oh, if someone knows how to embed those NRK vids on here, please let me know)
Click on the icons on the map for each project in the first article, and you´ll see theres a flyover-video for each of the project.

The articles and videos is by the local NRK-branch for the counties of Hedmark and Oppland, and covers the currenty largest road-projects in the inland-counties.

A little bit about each project:

E16 Slomarka-Kongsvinger: 16,5km of four-lane expressway (16,5m wide). Construction started in 2011, and the new road will open this fall. The project is divided in three contracts, where Veidekke has two of the contracts, while Skanska has the long bridge (and connecting roads) near the end of the video.

E6 Minnesund-Labbdalen: 21km motorway (21m wide). Construction started in late 2011, and is scheduled to open in november this year (except for the longest tunnel, which will open during the spring of 2015). This project is also divided into three contracts, where Hæhre has both the northern and southern contract, and a partnership between Veidekke and german contractor Hochtief has the middle. The southern part was originally being buit by Alpine Bau, but since they went bankrupt, a new competition for the rest of the work was made (thus the delay on the longest tunnel), which Hæhre won. The project also include the expanding to double track and straitening (for 200km/h) of Dovrebanen on the same section.

E6 Frya-Sjoa: 34km expressway (two lanes and additionally passing lanes on one or two sides), 13,5/15,5/17,5m wide (two single bore tunnels). Divided into two contracts where the AF-group is building the southern part, and swiss contractor Implenia is building the northern part together with mid-sized norwegian contractor KA Aurstad. Construction started last summer, and the new road is scheduled to open in late 2016.

Rv. 4 Lunner-Jaren (9,5km) and Lygna sør (3,5km): Four laned motorway (20m wide) from Lunner to Jaren built by NCC commenced last fall, and is due to open during the fall of 2016. Lygna sør is basically a stretching of the existing passing lane further up the hills to Lygna, but there will also be a 1km passing lane downhill, and a steel-centralguradrail. Road with is 14,5m where theres just a passing lane uphill, and 16,5m with passing lane both ways.

E16 Fønhus-Bagn: 13km of new two-lane highway (8,5m wide). Two contracts with "Arbeidsfellesskapet Dokken go Engene" (partnership between two smaller contractors) having Fønhus-Dølveseter, and Isachsen entrepreneur has Dølveseter-Bagn.

Other large project in Hedmark and Oppland worth mentioning is E16 over Filefjell (mountain pass between east and west) in Oppland buit by Hæhre, where 20km i being rebuilt with 8,5 meter standard, and partly tunneled. Construction commenced earlier this year, and i due to open in 2017. 6km of new road is also under construction on Rv. 3 north of Elverum, as a 10m wide road with a central-guardrail. This section will open later this year.

Several projects is due to start during the next 3-5 years too, but very few of them has a length of more than 20km.

So a lot (at least by norwegian standard) is happening these days. The total cost of 15,8 billon NOK equals to 2 billion EUR. Still tho, there´s a far way to go before the main roads through Hedmark and Oppland is of consistently good standard

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Old June 2nd, 2014, 09:24 PM   #2589
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So just like in Finland (then called "Eastern motorway), which's construction started in 1950, was opened from eastern city center of Helsinki to Herttoniemi in 1957. The first "real" motorway's construction (Turku motorway) was started in 1956 (the same year as the first motorway in Britain) and because of the policies on work back then was made mostly with shovels and buckets and was ready only in 1962.
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Old June 3rd, 2014, 02:37 PM   #2590
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The new government has stopped the previous government's madness. The new E39 between Stavanger and Kristiansand will be planed as a motorway. And not the stupid plans of building it as 2/3 lane expressway. Hopefully they'll make the same decision for the Trondheim - Steinkjer project.

Also, hopefully they'll open up for changing the route from Sandnes to Flekkefjord, building a new road further out on the coast, rather than the inland route the current E39 follows.
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Old June 3rd, 2014, 03:01 PM   #2591
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I noticed Statens Vegvesen barely dared to talk of a motorvei in their press releases. It's mostly "firefeltsveg" (four-lane road).
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I noticed Statens Vegvesen barely dared to talk of a motorvei in their press releases. It's mostly "firefeltsveg" (four-lane road).
Some of the four-lane roads planned or being built in Norway does not meet the standards of full motorway. Many of the ones signed motorway is probably narrower than what would be signed motorway i many other countries (width of the shoulder). But "four-lane road" is in many ways a more precise term in Norway when talking of a motorway (tho a four-lane road can be a lot of things). That´s because we had a lot (and still has some hundreds of kilometers) of two-lane road that went under the name "Motorvei kl. B", i.e. motorway class B well into the 2000´s, which had the expressway-sign. Still many calls these roads for motorway.

Also, the words "motorway" and "four-lane road" is two words that scares the heck out of some people here in Norway. Even people working in the road administration does´nt like that roads with more than two lanes and 80km/h is built. And some environmentalist seems to think that the whole world will be set ablaze by all the exhaust that will be generated if we build 10km of motorway in Norway.
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Old June 3rd, 2014, 09:34 PM   #2593
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E16 Slomarka-Kongsvinger: 16,5km of four-lane expressway (16,5m wide). Construction started in 2011, and the new road will open this fall. The project is divided in three contracts, where Veidekke has two of the contracts, while Skanska has the long bridge (and connecting roads) near the end of the video.
16,5m only? I guess it will feature only one carriageway with four lanes, won't it? No "real" expressway with two carriageways.

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E6 Minnesund-Labbdalen: 21km motorway (21m wide). Construction started in late 2011, and is scheduled to open in november this year (except for the longest tunnel, which will open during the spring of 2015).
Do you expect a partial opening w/o the tunnel in November? Which part contains the tunnel?
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16,5m only? I guess it will feature only one carriageway with four lanes, won't it? No "real" expressway with two carriageways.
Thats correct! Only a single carriageway with a steel guardrail dividing the central-lanes.

http://g.api.no/obscura/API/image/r1...3_3549131a.jpg

Here´s a picture of finished section on the same road further east. Note that the road in the picture has a cross section of 16m, while the one under construction is 16,5m, where they´ve widened the median a half meter, due to the feeling of being very close to the barrier, which many truckers experience while driving in the passing lane.

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Everything except for the 2,3km Korslund tunnel will open according to the original plan in november, while the tunnel and short sections near both end of the tunnel will open during spring next year.

I can also add that the railway won´t open until the spring/summer of 2015. This is according to the originally plan, as tunnel- and blasted masses from the road (and rail tunnels) is used to build the railways substructure, which is for a large part built out in the lake Mjøsa.
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Let's all take a moment and remind ourselves why we have this biblically ridiculous 16m four lane standard here in Norway: So that we save all the fertile soil the road would otherwise occupy.

First part of E 16 Kløfta - Nybakk was 10 km long. Let's just say every part of this road was built on fertile land. That gives us 0,16 km2. Now, if the road was 23 m wide, that would have occupied 0,23 km2.
So, the difference is 0,07 km2. If the road was built to proper standards, we would lose a whopping 0,00069 percent of the total fertile land in Norway (appr. 10 068 km2). So hurray to the conclusion that this saves fertile land.

Then, the road obviously doesn't stop at the verge. In total, we dont save nada. It's ridiculous. What happens when the road has to be widened to comply with the standards in the future?

Stuff like this is pseudo-politics and drives me insane.
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Thats correct! Only a single carriageway with a steel guardrail dividing the central-lanes.
Thanks. Will the new section be grade-separted and access-controlled?

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Everything except for the 2,3km Korslund tunnel
Where is it located?
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Thanks. Will the new section be grade-separted and access-controlled?
There will be two grade-separated intersections and full access-controll from the eastern start and until the road enters Kongsvinger. Inside Kongsvinger there will be two roundabouts, one at the end of the new road, and one some half a kilometer to the east.

When the construction is done between Nybakk and Slomarka (probably eary 2020´s), the plan is that the whole road is to be access-controlled and grade free. Earlier plans included a roundabout at Skarnes, where the road meets Rv. 24, but this now changed to a grade separated intersection

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https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ko...575fca3919335e
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Let's all take a moment and remind ourselves why we have this biblically ridiculous 16m four lane standard here in Norway: So that we save all the fertile soil the road would otherwise occupy.
Actually, the correct term for this road is according to the road administration is "two-lane road with continuos passing lanes in both direction". Sounds kind of silly..... But fact is that Slomarka-Kongsvinger (and parts of E18 in inner Østfold) is not built after the book according to the standards of four lane roads with speed limit >80km/h. It´s actually built by the standards of 12,5m two-lane road with central guardrail, and occasional passing lanes (class S5-road in the old handbook 017). That means according to the standards 90km/h and minimum horizontal curve of 450m (smallest horizontal curve on a 100km/h road in Norway today) radius (don't know if there will be that small curves on this road). Also the vertical alignment allows smaller radius on both the convex and the concave curve than t.ex an S8-road (H8 in new hb017).

But I think it´s an okay standard. The curvature is good (except on parts of Kløfta-Nybakk), and keep in mind that many countries further south in Europe would probably built a road with the traffic-number of E16 at this point as a two-lane road instead! Sweden and espessally Denmark (on E-roads) require an low daily-mean traffic before building a four-laner. Theres also a lot of narrow four-laners all over Europe. Try driving on some of the toll-free four-laners in Italy!

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First part of E 16 Kløfta - Nybakk was 10 km long. Let's just say every part of this road was built on fertile land. That gives us 0,16 km2. Now, if the road was 23 m wide, that would have occupied 0,23 km2.
So, the difference is 0,07 km2. If the road was built to proper standards, we would lose a whopping 0,00069 percent of the total fertile land in Norway (appr. 10 068 km2). So hurray to the conclusion that this saves fertile land.

Then, the road obviously doesn't stop at the verge. In total, we dont save nada. It's ridiculous. What happens when the road has to be widened to comply with the standards in the future?

Stuff like this is pseudo-politics and drives me insane.
I agree with you about the land confiscated, but the small width is Fylkesmannens claim, and they have a LOT to say in such cases! And Fylkesmannen does`nt always agree with himself even, when it comes to farming vs. environment.
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Actually, the correct term for this road is according to the road administration is "two-lane road with continuos passing lanes in both direction".
Actually, this kind of road isn't included in the new Håndbok N100. So I guess they are history.

The new H5 now only includes the 12.5 meter 1+1 road. And the 14.75 meter 2+1 road.

Perhaps they discovered that the 2+2 roads save very little money compared to the 20 meter motorway.
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Let's all take a moment and remind ourselves why we have this biblically ridiculous 16m four lane standard here in Norway: So that we save all the fertile soil the road would otherwise occupy.

First part of E 16 Kløfta - Nybakk was 10 km long. Let's just say every part of this road was built on fertile land. That gives us 0,16 km2. Now, if the road was 23 m wide, that would have occupied 0,23 km2.
So, the difference is 0,07 km2. If the road was built to proper standards, we would lose a whopping 0,00069 percent of the total fertile land in Norway (appr. 10 068 km2). So hurray to the conclusion that this saves fertile land.

Then, the road obviously doesn't stop at the verge. In total, we dont save nada. It's ridiculous. What happens when the road has to be widened to comply with the standards in the future?

Stuff like this is pseudo-politics and drives me insane.
I'm totally agree. E16 Kløfta - Kongsvinger should have been motorway. But they didn't choose the 16 m standard primarily to save fertile land. Estimated AADT was slightly lower than the 12 000 needed to get a motorway, but since the 16 m standard still existed then, they used it instead of building a 2+1 road. They chosed a "compromise".

The Slomarka - Kongsvinger part was originally planned as a 20 m motorway, as between 2002 and 2007 the lower AADT-limit for building motorway was only 10 000. The "kommunedelplan" is also according to a 20 m standard. But the "reguleringsplan" was passed later, and contains only a 16,5 m road according to the 2008 standard.

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