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Old June 26th, 2014, 07:26 AM   #2721
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I was just comparing the situation with that of Northern Quebec and Labrador.
Not much in common with Labrador and Scandinavia. Look at the map. Even if the northern Scandinavia is sparsely populated, it is far from being deserted. The wheels must keep running all year long.
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Old June 26th, 2014, 09:40 AM   #2722
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I'm was very surprised by the amount of road works along the E6, from the new part north of Lillehammer and the extensive works after Hammar. What I was also wondering is are the double track railway lines being laid beside the E6 being made for easy conversion to HSR, or is it just an opportunistic upgrade due to the extensive road building?
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Old June 26th, 2014, 02:07 PM   #2723
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Another urban-highway project is scheduled to open tomorrow. This time in Kristiansand. 2,5km of four-lane expressway, including a 1,3km double-bore tunnel will ease the traffic from E39 to the city`s larges district Vågsbygd.
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Is there some publicly stated policy on criteria for ferry replacement?
Yes, and now a ferry eliminating project will receive funds equivalent to running the ferry for 30 years - previously 15 years, including a proposal for lower interest rates for road loans we might see more currently unfeasible project see the light of day.

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What I was also wondering is are the double track railway lines being laid beside the E6 being made for easy conversion to HSR, or is it just an opportunistic upgrade due to the extensive road building?
Railroad will have a top speed of 200km/h. The whole section to Hamar is due to have twin tracks withinn 10 years to allow for twice as many trains and travelling time 1 of hour to Oslo.

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Old June 26th, 2014, 04:04 PM   #2724
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The new Rv. 7 shortcut will solidify that route as the shortest and fastest route from Oslo to Bergen, at least in the summer.
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Old June 26th, 2014, 04:11 PM   #2725
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Absolutly, and even winter (appart from stormy days.) Nice to see Vegvesenet have chosen not to put lamps on the whole road as they usually do!
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Old June 26th, 2014, 04:19 PM   #2726
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I thought the Laerdal and Gudvanga tunnels had been built for the purpose of making E16 the major Bergen-Oslo link.

Wouldn't it be better to invest in one of these two links, building 1+2 and 2+2 sections, instead of building scattered and expensive 1+1 tunnels on both?
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Old June 26th, 2014, 04:20 PM   #2727
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This road was originally planned to open on 7 June, but was postponed. I drove there on 9 June so I couldn't use the new road unfortunately. Old Rv. 7 was already renumbered to Fv. 280 at Sokna.

The old road wasn't that bad though. It is curvy like any other Norwegian road, but it was wide enough for two lanes and it allowed a fairly decent driving speed. It was mainly the extra kilometers (time) that was the incentive to build this new shortcut.
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Old June 26th, 2014, 08:59 PM   #2728
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I thought the Laerdal and Gudvanga tunnels had been built for the purpose of making E16 the major Bergen-Oslo link.

Wouldn't it be better to invest in one of these two links, building 1+2 and 2+2 sections, instead of building scattered and expensive 1+1 tunnels on both?
Maybe, but you also have to consider that the vast majority of traffic on these roads is not going all the way from the Oslo area to the west coast (or vice versa). It's mostly local/regional traffic. Few people drive Oslo-Bergen. They take planes.
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Old June 26th, 2014, 10:37 PM   #2729
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I thought the Laerdal and Gudvanga tunnels had been built for the purpose of making E16 the major Bergen-Oslo link.

Wouldn't it be better to invest in one of these two links, building 1+2 and 2+2 sections, instead of building scattered and expensive 1+1 tunnels on both?
In reality E16 (Filefjell) has never been the major road between those cities, and probably never will be.
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Old June 27th, 2014, 12:21 AM   #2730
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I thought the Laerdal and Gudvanga tunnels had been built for the purpose of making E16 the major Bergen-Oslo link.

Wouldn't it be better to invest in one of these two links, building 1+2 and 2+2 sections, instead of building scattered and expensive 1+1 tunnels on both?
That approach would be easy if it were a question about the road between Bergen and Oslo only. However, each of the three current main corridors has a significant regional importance, too. Dropping two of three would be a political mission impossible.

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Old June 27th, 2014, 08:06 AM   #2731
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In reality E16 (Filefjell) has never been the major road between those cities, and probably never will be.
There are only 3 towns with a population of over 1,000 people on a 440 kilometer stretch of E16 between Bergen and Hønefoss...

* Dale 1.174
* Vossevangen 5.993
* Fagernes 1.762
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Old June 27th, 2014, 02:28 PM   #2732
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There are only 3 towns with a population of over 1,000 people on a 440 kilometer stretch of E16 between Bergen and Hønefoss...

* Dale 1.174
* Vossevangen 5.993
* Fagernes 1.762
A lot of cabins tho.
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Some places probably have more cabins than permanent inhabitants.
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Old June 27th, 2014, 05:35 PM   #2734
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Rv. 7 Hønefoss - Gol

A 20 minute video that shows most of the Rv. 7 from Hønefoss to Gol. I skipped the less interesting parts through heavily forested areas. It also shows the route around Lake Krøderen that is bypassed as of today.

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Old June 27th, 2014, 05:52 PM   #2735
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Something I noticed in your videos is that Norwegian signaling is quite lax in terms of allowing (dotted central line) overtake on 1+1 roads, even in some rather curvy sectors where prudence might have yielded making them no-overtake zones.
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Old June 27th, 2014, 06:18 PM   #2736
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Whatever the road markings, passing is unlawful when unsafe, and this depends on situation. Hence, normally passing of a car is illegal when the dashed line is used, typically before curves and hill tops, rather than the dotted line. Passing of slower vehicles (e.g. tractors) or bikes might still be permissable.
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Old June 27th, 2014, 06:35 PM   #2737
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The new access into Trondheim from the east was inaugurated today by the prime minister and the minister of transportation. It includes the 2.5 km Strindheim Tunnel.

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This new rv 706 stretch is a great improvement, although I do not use car for work, and live in a different part of the city, I have already driven there several times already. This tunnel is a bit out of the ordinary in Norway, as the tunnel passes through a significant length of quick clay at the city side. Another aspect that is special is the three stacked intersection at the eastern end (two roundabouts and the through lanes). The through lanes and one of the roundabouts are both below ground level. Not sure if I seen such a design anywhere else.
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Old June 27th, 2014, 08:48 PM   #2738
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This is really amazing! Love the design and uniqueality of the project! Thumbs up for Norway
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Rv. 7 Brimnes

View from the former ferry terminal at Brimnes. Note the Hardanger Bridge on the left, the pylons are over 200 meters tall.


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Old June 28th, 2014, 03:32 PM   #2740
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When was E6 completed (as in: paved, geometric profile up to acceptable 1+1 standards) all the way north? Was Rv 17 (with its many ferry connections) finished up first?


E6 used to be riddled with these signs some decades back. I wonder when the last disappeared.

In fact I haven't seen one in years. There used to be a good number to Å in Lofoten, but that was in the serpentine days 10-12 years ago. How many are now left, except for non-tourist/scenic roads?
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