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Old June 30th, 2014, 08:24 PM   #2761
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Oslofjord Tunnel

The tolls at the Oslofjord Tunnel go all-electronic tomorrow. The toll charge (without discount) is also reduced from 60 to 50 NOK for light vehicles.
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Old June 30th, 2014, 08:32 PM   #2762
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Still it's very iffy that they charge at all. The toll booth is paying for nothing, as the tunnel is already paid down.
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Old June 30th, 2014, 09:35 PM   #2763
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Which road is more scenic, #50 Hol - Aurland or #52 Gol - Lærdal?
IMHO 50, especially to the direction Aurland and the descend to Vassbygdi in the Aurland Valley.

I recommend taking the windy Aurlandvegen from Aurland to Lærdal instead of the tunnel road. Or making a loop Gol-Aurland-Lærdal-Aurland-Gudvangen, not ignoring the Stalheimskleiva between Gudvangen and Vinje.

Another recommendation: Leave the road 7 in Ål and take Fv244 to Leveld, Vast and Tvist, and further Orsendvegen and Grønsetlivegen to join road 50 west of Hovet. A most scenic alternative to the river valleys.

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Old June 30th, 2014, 11:17 PM   #2764
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Still it's very iffy that they charge at all. The toll booth is paying for nothing, as the tunnel is already paid down.
They are paying for the second tube and motorway standard.
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Old July 1st, 2014, 08:35 AM   #2765
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I know, but they don't even have a reg.plan. Downpayment have started to soon.
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 01:17 AM   #2766
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Drop the second tube and build a new bridge ffs. And a new bridge at Drøbak should of course not influence a possible bridge at Horten - Moss. Both will be needed. Building a second tube is probably the worst idea ever!
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 01:21 PM   #2767
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Ring 3, Oslo

Some photos of Ring 3 around Oslo.




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Old July 3rd, 2014, 03:49 AM   #2768
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No, it was not. The E16 was routed over the ferry Gudvangen-Lærdal. The crossing time was 2+ hours making the route not a very attractive choice.
Does the ferry still run? I've seen the terminals on Google's Streetview and they look like they are still being used. Or are they simply being maintained so that a ferry can run between the two locations in the event the tunnel is closed?
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Old July 3rd, 2014, 03:59 AM   #2769
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Does the ferry still run? I've seen the terminals on Google's Streetview and they look like they are still being used. Or are they simply being maintained so that a ferry can run between the two locations in the event the tunnel is closed?
That is a very famous fjord. I think it attracts a lot of leisure traffic, not sure if ferries carrying vehicles operate though.

It is probably the most famous tourist fjord in Norway...
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Old July 3rd, 2014, 07:32 AM   #2770
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Does the ferry still run? I've seen the terminals on Google's Streetview and they look like they are still being used. Or are they simply being maintained so that a ferry can run between the two locations in the event the tunnel is closed?
There is a ferry connection Kaupanger-Gudvangen making two trips a day. It is not part of the road ferry system but for tourist traffic (for tourist prices, of course). The ferry runs during the summer season only, from May to September.

The ferry port in Revsnes 20 km west of Lærdaløyri was brought down after opening the Fodnes ferry port and new tunnel road in 1993. During 1993-1995, the route was Fodnes-Kaupanger-Gudvangen. In 1995, the Mannheller ferry port and the connecting tunnel road got opened, and the Fodnes-Kaupanger ferry connection was replaced by the current Fodnes-Manneheller connection.

The port in Revsnes was in use since 1966. It was abandoned because of the very high risk of avalanches and landslides on the connecting road.

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Old July 3rd, 2014, 08:38 PM   #2771
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There is a ferry connection Kaupanger-Gudvangen making two trips a day. It is not part of the road ferry system but for tourist traffic (for tourist prices, of course). The ferry runs during the summer season only, from May to September.
The ferry you mention goes in fact from Laerdal via Kaupanger to Gudvangen, at least when I was there a few years ago.

AFAIK, there are also tourist boats going from Gudvangen to Flåm, but no cars.
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Old July 3rd, 2014, 08:59 PM   #2772
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The port in Revsnes was in use since 1966. It was abandoned because of the very high risk of avalanches and landslides on the connecting road.
Is is still possible to drive there during summer or has the access road been shut down completely?
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Old July 3rd, 2014, 10:07 PM   #2773
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The ferry you mention goes in fact from Laerdal via Kaupanger to Gudvangen, at least when I was there a few years ago.

AFAIK, there are also tourist boats going from Gudvangen to Flåm, but no cars.
Today's situation can be checked easily at Fjord1's website. The ferries sail from Gudvangen to Kaupanger (turn around time 15 min in K, no time to sail to L) and to Flåm. Both routes provide with an option to carry cars.
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Is is still possible to drive there during summer or has the access road been shut down completely?
The old road is currently a regional road (Aurlandvegen) up to Erdal and a local road up to Vindedalen. The final leg to Revsnes is closed. It still may be passable by a bicycle, depending on how badly it is damaged. (The road was closed 99 times during its last 25 years due to landslides and avalanches.)
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Today's situation can be checked easily at Fjord1's website. The ferries sail from Gudvangen to Kaupanger (turn around time 15 min in K, no time to sail to L) and to Flåm. Both routes provide with an option to carry cars.
I did that ferry trip a couple of years ago. Even for a Norseman like myself, truly worth its (admittedly steap) price tag...
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I wonder why Norway has so many fjords but Denmark none

I've found an unsourced map with old ferry links on the area.

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Old July 3rd, 2014, 11:55 PM   #2777
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I wonder why Norway has so many fjords but Denmark none

I've found an unsourced map with old ferry links on the area.
Denmark has plenty of fjords!
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Old July 3rd, 2014, 11:57 PM   #2778
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Denmark has plenty of fjords!
Just some lakes surrounded by mild gently hills. Nothing with exposed rock faces or deep carved floors.
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Old July 3rd, 2014, 11:59 PM   #2779
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Just some lakes surrounded by mild gently hills. Nothing with exposed rock faces or deep carved floors.
No, they have plenty of them. They are just not located on the Dannish mainland.
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Some sectors of E18 have not been upgraded to expressway standards (even if 1+1). Are there plans for a full segregated highway from Kristiansand and Oslo?
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