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Old October 16th, 2014, 11:17 PM   #3021
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Hoping for the Hardangerviddatunnel and more 2+1 trough Hallingdal for starters.
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Old October 17th, 2014, 01:03 AM   #3022
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The road between Oslo and Bergen has to go across Hardangervidda. It's the shortest, it connects the most populated areas of Norway, and the no-ferry E 39 in all directions will serve the entire west coast.
Still supporting the four+ options of crossing the mountain today would be like building four railways Oslo-Bergen in 1909.
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Old October 17th, 2014, 03:10 PM   #3023
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E16 Oppland

Tolling will commence on 8 December 2014 on the E16 between Bagn and Fønhus in western Oppland.

http://www.e16oppland.no/

http://www.vegvesen.no/Om+Statens+ve...Vis?key=703501
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Old October 17th, 2014, 07:17 PM   #3024
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Hoping for the Hardangerviddatunnel and more 2+1 trough Hallingdal for starters.
More of this would be nice:
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Old October 17th, 2014, 08:45 PM   #3025
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No, please stop. This is the product of trying to go four directions at the same time. The more investment on each of these mountain passes, the less reason for building one robust one.

Don't misunderstand me. Rv. 7 towards Gol needs improvement. This 2+1 solution would be a reasonable solution when all the traffic towards Bergen has gone. So will a 2+1 road towards Fagernes. But the logical thing would be to build the proper road across the mountain first, to get the heavy truck traffic/buses and cross-mountain private traffic onto one road.
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Old October 17th, 2014, 11:13 PM   #3026
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There's no such thing as a proper "2+1 road" in the Norwegian road standards. They're 1+1 (with intermittent passing lanes).
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Old October 18th, 2014, 01:01 PM   #3027
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The new Eikås Tunnel on E39 just north of Bergen. Reportedly there was already a traffic jam today.
Not surprising since the four lanes ends in a signal crossing just north of it.

This road have a ÅDT of about 20k wich is higher than E39 from Nesttun to Os who will soon start construction on four lane Svegatjørn-Rådal.
Bergen municipal also have huge plans of more construction in the area wich will lead to even more traffic.

The traffic problems will not get much better until Nyborgtunnelen gets built.
And by the time that gets done the bridge will probably be to small
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Old October 18th, 2014, 02:47 PM   #3028
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Is Norway considering to build an intercity motorway network (at least in the south, between Oslo, Bergen, Stavanger, Trondheim and Alesund)?
Are there plans to close the gap on the E6 south of Narvik, that is currently served by a ferry?
To supplement what has been already stated, the Norwegian government has pledged to make a national motorway plan. What that actually means in practice remains to see, but one of the two coalition partners has for a long time argued for a national network connecting the major cities. I believe clearly that, in addition to Oslo - Stavanger, Oslo - Trondheim is most ripe. The traffic volumes on Rv3 and E6 are on average higher than the east-west connections, and the investment costs are likely to be far less. When discussing intercity traffic volumes in Norway, one should remember that a lot of it currently goes by air. With a proper road network, a lot of non-business travel would be transferred.
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Old October 23rd, 2014, 04:05 PM   #3029
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110 km/h

More 110 zones coming to Norway


Eik – Hanekleiva (ca. 14 km)
Helland bru – Kopstad (ca 5 km)
Kopstad – Gulli (ca.14 km)
Gulli – Langåker (ca. 25 km)
Langåker – Bommestad (ca. 6,5 km)
Sky – Langgangen (ca. 11 km)
Solli – Årvoll (ca 16,5 km)
Årum v/Sarpsborg – tollstasjonen v/Svinesund (22 km)

On E6 and E18.
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Old October 24th, 2014, 06:56 PM   #3030
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Ryfylke Tunnel, Stavanger







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Old October 24th, 2014, 07:13 PM   #3031
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E6 Nordnesfjellet

A contract has been signed to construct a 5.8 kilometer long tunnel in E6 north of Skibotn in Troms. Construction will start in December, the tunnel will open to traffic in 2017. The tunnel allows the E6 to be cut short by 8 kilometers. The construction cost is 536.5 million kroner, or € 64.2 million. The tunnel will be toll-free.

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Old October 24th, 2014, 10:19 PM   #3032
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Well that is a short time for souch a long tunnel.
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Old October 25th, 2014, 02:48 PM   #3033
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Well that is a short time for souch a long tunnel.
Not really! With use of "drill and blast", which is by far the most common way here i Norway, an average blast makes the tunnel four meters longer in normal solid rock. Typically there are three blastings each day, which means 24 meters a day, if they work from two sides. 5800 meters devided by 24 is 241 days. Securing of the mountain is done for every blast. That is very "optimal", but not far from how it in most cases go. Then there is about two years left for completion of concrete-structures, the roadway, electrical systems and the rest. If they use "bypass-tunnels", which is not very common AFAIK, portals may be built while blasting, and masses is being transported out of of the bypass.

The Lærdal tunnel (24,5km) was built between 1995 and 2000 btw.
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Old October 25th, 2014, 03:08 PM   #3034
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It's much faster than the average tunnel project in Switzerland

Blasting is a cost-efficient method. The electricity bill of a TBM is so huge you could construct a several kilometer long tunnel in Norway for that cost alone. Not to mention the cost of a TBM itself (often up to € 80 million).

The electricity cost for boring the Femern Belt Tunnel from Denmark to Germany with a tunnel boring machine was projected to be in excess of € 120 million.
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Old October 25th, 2014, 07:24 PM   #3035
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Doesn't Norway have problems with water table on tunnels? That might be a major issue of extensive use of blasting. Usually blasting is only used on hard rock (obvious reasons). Mountains formed by subduction (like the Alps) are usually risky places to use blasting as a tunneling method. All that pressing weakens certain parts of the rock mass and it can collapse quickly if something goes wrong (I think something went wrong in a Swiss would-be tunnel south of Bern, and the hwole project was abandoned when the place flooded and couldn't be stabilized).
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Old October 25th, 2014, 07:26 PM   #3036
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Some tunnels do have fogging problems. Many tunnels are just bare rock, but some have treated walls to prevent water seepage.
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Old October 26th, 2014, 12:21 AM   #3037
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They are treated with polyetylen and spray-on concrete.
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Old October 26th, 2014, 01:31 AM   #3038
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And previously other exciting stuff, like Rhoca-Gil.
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Old October 26th, 2014, 02:27 AM   #3039
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I drove from Gothenburg to Arendal a couple of months ago, and iirc there was a stretch on E18 where you couldn't overtake for like 50 km or something like that. And on the new motorway stretches there were tolls every 5 km or so. Since then I don't feel as bad driving on a Swedish 2+1 road, lol.
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I drove from Gothenburg to Arendal a couple of months ago, and iirc there was a stretch on E18 where you couldn't overtake for like 50 km or something like that. And on the new motorway stretches there were tolls every 5 km or so. Since then I don't feel as bad driving on a Swedish 2+1 road, lol.
How much are the tolls?
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