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Old July 1st, 2016, 09:56 PM   #3981
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What kind of rock is normally found on all those fjord tunnels? The drilling speed is quite fast, so I'm assuming it is nothing saturated with water? How high/low water tables normally are in Norway?
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Old July 2nd, 2016, 01:16 AM   #3982
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If you get deep enough, the rock quality is usually fairly good in Norway. Hence, tunnels are usually blasted, not bored, and the rock is normally fairly tight. Many fjords have a fairly thick layer of gravel/sand/clay, though, brought there throug the millenia by rivers and glaciers. I have not bothered to check this particular project. Of course, anything submarine is below the "water table" so the tunnel has to be constructed as water tight as possible and whatever that is still drizzling in will have to be pumped out.
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Old July 2nd, 2016, 09:56 AM   #3983
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Undersea tunnels tend to go quite a bit under the seabed. The Boknafjord Tunnel maximum depth is -392 m, while the seabed is not deeper than -300 m.
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Old July 3rd, 2016, 04:04 PM   #3984
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Fylkesvei 55, Sognefjellet, part III

Part III of Fv. 55 across Sognefjellet.


1. The west side of Sognefjellet is generally steeper, it drops more abruptly to Sognefjord.

Fylkesvei 55 Sognefjellet-26 by European Roads, on Flickr

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Fylkesvei 55 Sognefjellet-27 by European Roads, on Flickr

3. Sogndal is still 80 - 90 minutes of driving.

Fylkesvei 55 Sognefjellet-28 by European Roads, on Flickr

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Fylkesvei 55 Sognefjellet-29 by European Roads, on Flickr

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Fylkesvei 55 Sognefjellet-30 by European Roads, on Flickr

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Old July 4th, 2016, 10:38 PM   #3985
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Fv. 63 Trollstigen

I made a video of famous Trollstigen near Åndalsnes. Enjoy.

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Old July 6th, 2016, 10:38 AM   #3986
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E6 Hålogaland Bridge

The first pilot cable of the Hålogaland suspension bridge will be crossing the Rombaksfjord tomorrow. This will start the construction of the main span across the fjord, starting with a catwalk. The construction of the bridge deck is very fast with suspension bridges, the bridge is planned for completion next year.

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Old July 6th, 2016, 07:27 PM   #3987
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E16 Øye - Eidsbru

Construction started today on a new stretch of E16 in Valdres, east of Filefjell. They will build a new alignment and construct the 2.1 kilometer long Rødøl Tunnel. It will be completed by late 2018.

It will bypass this part of E16:

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Old July 10th, 2016, 09:07 PM   #3988
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Status update of the new E134 bypass Kongsberg of the new 2x2 motorway Kongsberg-Drammen and part of the Bergen/Haugesund/Stavanger-Oslo transport corridor.



New Kongsberg tunnel of motorway E134 Kongsberg-Drammen.

Before the end of September 2016, it is expected, the Kongsberg 2x2 motorway tunnel will be completed. The tunnel has a length of 856 m. Mid June, 431 m already had been completed.

A bridge has already been completed.

A bridge at Majorplassen will be tested again after an accident with a similar bridge on E6.



Interchange near Diseplass



Ministry of Transport has given NPRA clear signals that E134 in the work of the next National Transport Plan (NTP) shall be implemented as the main way between eastern and western Norway. It is encouraging that the section west of Kongsberg is also 2x2 motorway. That feeds the hope that more sections of Bergen-Drammen (if not all) will be full 2x2 motorway in future.
The new Kongsberg bypass costs NOK 900 million, NOK 800 million from the toll company, 100 million comes from the state.
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Old July 12th, 2016, 12:43 AM   #3989
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Generally, a road with roundabouts is not considered a motorway.
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Old July 12th, 2016, 07:04 AM   #3990
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Well... There may my conflicting opinions around that case.

In my opinion, the most interesting part of Geiranger is not Geiranger itself, but the hairpin roads leading there (and to Dalsnibba). Hopefully there will be wisdom enough to retain the current road even if the tunnel road were built.
Absolutely agree here, it's the roads and not the town itself that make Geiranger an interesting place to visit. Apart from the roads or ferry leading into the town I would never bother just visitng the the town, it's a highly priced town with too many people and not enough decent places to eat, and there are other more interesting fjords to visit not to far away.
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Old July 12th, 2016, 10:01 AM   #3991
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If you want something similar to Trollstigen but with less tourists, I would recommend the climb down Gaularfjellet towards Sognefjorden on Fv 13. When I drove pass a few weeks ago there were workers there constructing a viewpoint.

Photo taken by me.

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Old July 12th, 2016, 07:48 PM   #3992
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Generally, a road with roundabouts is not considered a motorway.
Yes, roundabouts are not at all in a motorway. The bypass of Kongsberg consists of 2 parts with 4-lane motorway parameters, connected by a local road with 3 roundabouts. Such as this roundabout, opened on July 1st 2016 at Trollerudmoen:





Traffic doesn't justify a motorway bypass now, only when more E134 upgrades will be available. It is more cost effective to build the more expensive 4-lane tunnels and motorway interchanges now, than add them later. Later the connecting local road can be replaced by a motorway section.
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If you want something similar to Trollstigen but with less tourists, I would recommend the climb down Gaularfjellet towards Sognefjorden on Fv 13. When I drove pass a few weeks ago there were workers there constructing a viewpoint.
It was recently completed:
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Old July 12th, 2016, 10:31 PM   #3994
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Progress new E134 Aarhus-Gvammen tunnel


The new tunnel between Aarhus and Gvammen will make the E134 between Western Norway and Oslo 18 minutes shorter. On July 4th, 2016, the tunnel had already a length of 6,538 km of 9,354 km, the seventh longest tunnel of Norway. According to the planning, the new section will be ready in 2019. When the new E134 section near Rauland will be ready, this tunnel will be for local traffic to Seljord.



Photo Av Peter Fiskerstrand - Eget verk, CC BY-SA 4.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/inde...curid=44723679

After some problems with water in the tunnel, there is now an injection rig (left on photo) to seal for water.



There is also progress with a river bridge.

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If you want something similar to Trollstigen but with less tourists, I would recommend the climb down Gaularfjellet towards Sognefjorden on Fv 13.
Photo is great and the view is very nice. However for a foreign tourist there are more awesome mountain areas in the Alps, easier to reach by motorway and much better affordable.
The unique tourist attraction is not high mountains with snow, but fjords, silent areas and the relaxed and high developed culture.
Another thing is that most tourists have a wife and kids, and they not always want to follow steep hills and long distance narrow roads.
To improve this, some infrastructure is necessary, including motorways in the direction of Trondheim, Haukeli (E134), and some additional improvements: better infrastructure to the fjords, especially Geiranger and Sognefjorden.
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Um well ... I don't need motorways to reach your "silent areas" as fast as possible.

Funny too, that so many people come from Italy to such a remote, expensive and bad-to-reach Norway, isn't it?

Finally, I recommend Aursjøvegen
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I absolutely agree, if I'm just a tourist, I prefer minor roads to motorways - even in places like Denmark, Germany, England or Spain. The road and what you experience is an important part of the Journey. That said, I do support a true improvement of our major road network and more modest improvements on regional roads.

On a slightly different note... There is a significant change happening in regards to our road network at the moment: more priority roads are introduced both inside, but mainly outside urban areas. The majority of roads in Norway have been priority-from-the-right, even when the main road intersects a very minor one. Of course, most numbered highways (but certainly not all) have already been given a yellow-diamond priority status. Now, with more roads being given priority, I do believe driving in Norway will become more in accordance with what most people consider reasonable - not least foreign tourists accustomed with clear priority regulations in intersections.
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Priority-to-the-right on major roads?
I have travelled a few thousand km on Norwegian roads but don't remember much of that.
It is more common in housing areas, isn't it?
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If you're not on a priority road you must yield to the right. Now most roads also have a name, so you're sure that it's a proper road. (I.e., you don't have to yield to an access road coming from a field.)
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The Alps are not that affordable. For example many mountain roads in Austria charge hefty fees, the Großglockner Hochalpenstraße in Austria will cost you € 35 to drive. The Silvretta-Hochalpenstraße costs € 15 and Timmelsjoch € 16. Switzerland doesn't have this kind of fees, but is generally a more expensive country to stay in (similar to Norway). On the other hand, camping in Norway is much cheaper than in Italy or popular locations in France or Spain. But if you travel more luxurious in hotels and dining out every night, then it's quite expensive.

People go to Norway with a different tourist-mindset than those going to Italy or France. Tourists driving to Norway tend to move around from place to place, as opposed to people staying 2-3 weeks in a mobile home on the Riviera or Dordogne. Then the lack of motorways isn't much of a problem for tourists. In fact, it's an asset, you'll see much more when driving on two-lane roads, the tunnels already deprive motorists of some of the view.

So the lack of motorways shouldn't be a concern for tourist purposes. In Norway, travelling is part of the tourist experience, as opposed to France or Italy where travel is just a way to get to your destination as fast as possible.
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