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Old December 3rd, 2017, 12:16 PM   #5121
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I'm not sure how you can see that let alone easily. There are plenty of roads that gets build to make for a better regional or national road network while the local connections are secondary. Tthis project is explicitly there to provide better connections with the settlements on both sides of the fjord and make Vesterålen and Lofotoen into something resembling a "metro area".

They are just conducting a feasibility study on a improved connection across the fjord. They haven't even decided to recommend a tunnel yet. I don't think anyone involved with the project are under any illusion that it won't take many years before it gets built should they decide to go with a tunnel. It's not even mentioned in NTP.
It is amazing to see how parochial the Norwegian transport strategy is. The national network is simply lousy, and everybody focuses to the nearest neighborhood only. Nye Veier got established at the last moment.
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Old December 6th, 2017, 06:30 AM   #5122
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Someone was very lucky going home from school in June, see video clip in this article: https://www.nrk.no/buskerud/foreldre...gol-1.13774865
i watch it on youtube. oh my gosh...3second to dead. closeee enough.

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Old December 7th, 2017, 12:52 AM   #5123
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It's not even mentioned in NTP.
It's a county road
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Old December 10th, 2017, 01:31 PM   #5124
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E18: Larvik - Sky 3 km (2013 to December 2017 --> March 2018)

Source: https://www.nrk.no/nyheter/krevjande...bru-1.13776776
Project: https://www.vegvesen.no/Europaveg/e18larvik


E39: Harestad - Bokn ca. 28 km (January 2018 to 2015/26)

Source: https://www.vegvesen.no/Europaveg/e3...sjoiske-tunnel
Project: https://www.vegvesen.no/Europaveg/e39rogfast
Map: https://www.vegvesen.no/_attachment/...C+mai+2017.pdf
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Old December 14th, 2017, 04:18 PM   #5125
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E39 Nordfjord Crossing

Renders have been released of the new Nordfjord Crossing between Byrkjelo and Grodås, west of Stryn.

It would be a very large suspension bridge with a main span of circa 1500 meters, which would rank it among the top of the world's suspension bridges. To achieve a stronger structure, the bridge will have a wider deck, with four lanes. The bridge clearance is 75 meters and the towers will be 250 meters tall.





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Old December 16th, 2017, 11:55 PM   #5126
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That is another ambitious project and, as I know the region a bit, it makes absolutley sense for long distance traffic.

I just wondered: If E39 is meant as a ferry free connection for the coastal reagion, isn't this road way too far a way from the coast??
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Old December 17th, 2017, 12:23 AM   #5127
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Here are two more illustrations of the bridge:



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Old December 17th, 2017, 01:16 AM   #5128
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That is another ambitious project and, as I know the region a bit, it makes absolutley sense for long distance traffic.

I just wondered: If E39 is meant as a ferry free connection for the coastal reagion, isn't this road way too far a way from the coast??
Yes, the alignment of E39 is unfortunately another example where local politics have got the upper hand in national road strategies. Both the Nordfjord and Sognefjord crossings should be further west. Most likely it will take decades before any of these are built, however. The county in question will soon merge with the far more populous county to the south, which includes Bergen, which should be more interested in a more efficient road northwards. Perhaps we can hope for a more sensible alignment before any of these bridges are built.

It is a bit funny how dense traffic the Nordfjord bridge has on the animations, btw.
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Old December 17th, 2017, 10:32 AM   #5129
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The only sizable communities left out from the inland route of E39 are Florø and Maløy. Are they really that important?
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Old December 17th, 2017, 04:01 PM   #5130
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To be honest, there simply are no important towns in county of Sogn og Fjordane, and the largest communities are already connected by other national roads. The point is that the current route is much longer than it has to be, and hence will make it much less efficient as a link between Bergen / Stavanger on the south end and Sunnmøre (eg Ålesund), Molde, Kristiansund and Trondheim at the northern end. In addition, fjord crossings can be expected to be easier and less expensive towards the fjord mouths due to shallower water compared with the extreme depths further inland.
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Old December 18th, 2017, 10:24 AM   #5131
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The only sizable communities left out from the inland route of E39 are Florø and Maløy. Are they really that important?

There's about 12,000 people between both towns, I don't think they matter much at all. Give it another decade of so and they will probably have half that number of people. Urban drift has started in Norway, a lot these smaller towns are just going to get smaller, some will likely disappear given time. We will end up with a lot of expensive roads, tunnels and bridges leading to nowhereville.
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Old December 18th, 2017, 10:32 AM   #5132
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Except toll rings most tolls are in place for only 15 years at a time. And many are also set up to pay for a tunnel or bridge replacing a ferry. Which means that in these circumstances you basically pay the same as you would for the ferry but you don't have to take waiting time into consideration.


I'm pretty certain that there has only been a couple of tunnels and bridges where you paid the same rates as the previous ferry, that was Kristiansund Mainland Connection Krifast (now toll free) and now on the other side the Atlantic Ocean Tunnel, I think it's absolutely stupid paying for passangers as well as the vehicle, it also means the toll posts have to be manned, there's no automatic toll, which (I'm sure) adds to the operating costs.
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Old December 18th, 2017, 10:38 AM   #5133
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The junction on Otrøya that is part of the planned E39 romdalsfjord crossing have been redesigned. This redesign reportedly made the crossing 130 mill NOK cheaper.

Earlier junction:





Redesign. It now appears like there will only one roundabout at one side of the bridge.

https://www.vareveger.no/artikler/ny...ill-e39/412757

I'm really looking forward to seeing this being built. I drive past it everyday, it will be fascinating seeing it going up, I just wish they would hurry up and get started.
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Old December 18th, 2017, 06:06 PM   #5134
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E6 Sørkjosen Tunnel

The Sørkjosen Tunnel of E6 in Northern Norway is scheduled to open to traffic on 2 February. It is a 4.6 kilometer long tunnel that bypasses a low but exposed mountain pass west of the village of Sørkjosen.

E6 was blocked in Sørkjosen due to a slide near the construction site in 2015. The detour route was 700 kilometers long via Finland.

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Old December 18th, 2017, 08:03 PM   #5135
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The Sørkjosen Tunnel of E6 in Northern Norway is scheduled to open to traffic on 2 February. It is a 4.6 kilometer long tunnel that bypasses a low but exposed mountain pass west of the village of Sørkjosen.

E6 was blocked in Sørkjosen due to a slide near the construction site in 2015. The detour route was 700 kilometers long via Finland.
The route from the south end of the slide to its north end was 700+ kilometers.

However, the detour Skibotn-Finland-Alta is only 140 km longer than the direct route E6 Skibotn-Alta. And the route Skibotn-Finland-Karasjok is anyway 100 km shorter than the "direct route" E6. Therefore, the inconvenience caused was less than it might look.
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Old December 26th, 2017, 02:30 PM   #5136
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SVV has released a proposal for E6 alignment Åsen - Mære in the Innherred district somewhat north of Trondheim. It seems like the aim luckily is four lanes /110 km/h.
https://www.vegvesen.no/Europaveg/e6innherred

Hence, currently, it seems like 110 km/h - four lanes is in the cards for most of the 220 km E6 Ulsberg - Steinkjer, covering the most central parts of the Trøndelag county. Also 30 km E39 Klett (Trondheim) - Orkanger will be four lanes, but it is unclear whether the geometry will be good enough for 110 km/h. What is even more unclear is when plans will become roads. Probably this will take some decades, unfortunately.
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Old January 3rd, 2018, 03:20 PM   #5137
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The Sykkylven Bridge of Fv. 71 becomes toll-free on 1 February: http://www.smp.no/nyheter/2017/11/24...r-15650558.ece

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Old January 3rd, 2018, 04:52 PM   #5138
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Car sales data (or more accurately registrations) for 2017 were announced today. Zero emission vehicles (the vast majority electric) had a share of 20.9%, while hybrids accounted for 31.1%, petrol 24.7% and diesel 23.1%.

Top 10 selling cars:

1. Volkswagen Golf
2. BMW i3
3. Toyota Rav4
4. Tesla Model X
5. Volkswagen Passat
6. Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV
7. Toyota Yaris
8. Tesla Model S
9. Skoda Octavia
10. Toyota C-HR
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Old January 3rd, 2018, 04:56 PM   #5139
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Are there incentives for hybrid vehicles?

In the Netherlands they cut the incentives for hybrids, focusing on battery electric only. So not many people choose a hybrid anymore as a company car.

Though hybrids can be interesting for consumers, they allow you to drive a larger car with good mileage.
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The tax on hybrids is lower than on cars with higher emissions, so the sales price is competitive. Other than that, I’m not aware of any incentives.
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