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Old September 9th, 2010, 02:22 PM   #1141
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A homemade video of E18 from Oslo to Ås
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Old September 9th, 2010, 11:07 PM   #1142
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How come cabs are allowed to use the bus lanes?
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Old September 9th, 2010, 11:17 PM   #1143
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high occupancy vehicle exemption I think.
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Old September 10th, 2010, 09:25 AM   #1144
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Also electric vehicles and motorcycles are allowed in bus-lanes.
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Old September 10th, 2010, 11:13 PM   #1145
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A homemade video of E18 from Oslo to Ås
Aren't you always advertizing using the E6 when going south out of Oslo?
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Old September 11th, 2010, 03:35 PM   #1146
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It's a piece of road-curiousa i think, as a main road into a 900k city it's low standard is remarkable
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Old September 12th, 2010, 12:15 AM   #1147
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But as a symbol of Norwegian development in road standards and seeing stretches piece-by-piece, not for their length, it's a perfect specimen!
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Old September 16th, 2010, 11:16 PM   #1148
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Now the more logic route to Ås:
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Old September 20th, 2010, 12:57 AM   #1149
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And the motorway continuing to Halden:
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Old September 20th, 2010, 02:47 AM   #1150
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Some real news for this thread: Statens vegvesen have now put the planing program for the new E18 from Reitvet (border of Akershus/Østfold) to Vinterbro out on hearing in affected municipals. Proposal includes multiple alternatives, both a full scale motorway for 100 km/h speedlimit, but also one alternative is to keep the road as it is, with just a few safety measures where the road runs close to residental areas. Local politicians are pushing for the latest, but everything seems really open right now. The hope is to get a municipal plan ready in time to get the project in the National transportation plan for 2015-2024.

Read the whole planprogram here:
http://www.as.kommune.no/getfile.php...an.pdf?force=1
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Old September 20th, 2010, 09:57 AM   #1151
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Proposal includes multiple alternatives, both a full scale motorway for 100 km/h speedlimit, but also one alternative is to keep the road as it is, with just a few safety measures where the road runs close to residental areas.
What is the aim of the project? If you want to increase flow, capacity and safety, you cannot consider "a few safety measures" as a real alternative. This ridiculous specification that alternatives - how stupid they may be - MUST be included in road improvement projects, should be scrapped as soon as possible.

It only cost tax money to survey the impacts of all alternatives, while you already know what you want most of the times beforehand.
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Old September 20th, 2010, 05:19 PM   #1152
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I don't think actual "capacity" is much of a problem eitherway. AADT is on most of the stretch under 10.000 today. Even at full motorwaystandard traffic numbers in 2025 is expected at 12.600-18.000 along the whole stretch.

I'm quite pleased that they spend an few extra mio NOK on getting the facts straight. Motorway at the whole stretch will probably go for many hundred mio NOK.
The road today is also quite safe. Narrowest part is 8,5 meters wide, and the road is straight and have good visibility. Improvement of the most hazardious intersections would do about the same to traffic safety/flow as constructing an overdimensioned piece of motorway. E18/E6 north of Vinterbro can't handle any more traffic eitherway...


edit: I'll just post this map too, so we know which road stretch we're talking about. The rest of E18 south/east of Reitvet ("A" on the map) has either been constructed as motorway/1st class highway the last years, or will be finished in the coming 5 years all the way to the Swedish border.

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Old September 21st, 2010, 12:39 PM   #1153
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I would like them to look at this corridor, i know they investigated a corridor leading to Korsegården (E6 x Fv152), but i mean the Rv23 has a large potential - it's in our best interest to lead more trafic going on Rv23 and there is a fine line between using E18 and Rv23 if your destination is north of Drammen.

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Old September 21st, 2010, 10:41 PM   #1154
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Norway is not known for its extensive motorway network, but there has been a recent and quite notable addition to the motorways of Norway. The new E18 between the two southern towns Kristiansand and Grimstad was opened about a year ago. The road used to be a rather narrow 2-lane road with loads of curves and hills and a maximum speed of 70 km/h. Now it's a 4-lane motorway with a 100 km/h speed limit (the maximum allowed in Norway). The road was built as a private public partnership (PPP). You can read more about the project here.

The shoulder is quite narrow, but there are emergency bays.


Electronic signage.


The road has 7 tunnels with a total length of 5740 meters.


It's an automatic toll road. You get the bill mailed based on your license plate, or you can buy a subscription which will save you a little.


The end of the motorway is the exit to Grimstad.
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And the project is a fiasco for the PPP (or OPS as it's known as in Norway). Losses for contractors CJV E18, which is owned by Danish Pihl & Søn and German Bilfinger Berger and Reinhold Meister is up at 1,2 billion NOK and counting. I guess none of these will dare anything like this in a long time.

Link to article in Norwegian: http://www.bygg.no/2010/09/62806.0

It can still turn to something positive though. If traffic is higher than the road authorities' projections (which they usually are), owner of the road can earn more than projected.
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Old September 22nd, 2010, 02:02 PM   #1156
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Wierd, Skanska did great on E 39 Orkanger - Klett. Much better standard and maintenance than other roads in the area.
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Old September 25th, 2010, 08:20 PM   #1157
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It can still turn to something positive though. If traffic is higher than the road authorities' projections (which they usually are), owner of the road can earn more than projected.
It's already something positive.. I used to live near Lillesand and this road is a huge, huge improvement of what was there. Just hoping to get a similar standard all the way from Tonsberg to Grimstad. Yeah, as if..

The Opera tunnel through Oslo has opened now, drove it for the first time the other day. If you're going from E18 Drammen to E6 Gardermoen you'll drive in a tunnel all the way from Aker Brygge to Vålerenga. I think the plans are to get E18 in a tunnel where the two-lane Mosseveien exists now, then it'll be super good..
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Old September 25th, 2010, 09:48 PM   #1158
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It's an automatic toll road. You get the bill mailed based on your license plate, or you can buy a subscription which will save you a little.
I find the automated toll roads interesting, one of my cars always gets billed, the other one never does. We have been in Trondheim 4-5 times since the new toll system started, only been billed once when we took my car.
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Old September 25th, 2010, 10:34 PM   #1159
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We were last year on a automatic toll road in Oslo and we never got a bill.
(I am from The Netherlands)
We saw in a leaflet that we good get a bill an half year later from an administration office in London, is this right?
Does anyone know why we didn't get a bill? Or is this because we from Holland?
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Old September 26th, 2010, 12:35 AM   #1160
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We were last year on a automatic toll road in Oslo and we never got a bill.
(I am from The Netherlands)
We saw in a leaflet that we good get a bill an half year later from an administration office in London, is this right?
Does anyone know why we didn't get a bill? Or is this because we from Holland?
I guess they don't bother to send the bill if you only passed an automatic toll station once. The price you have to pay is not very much more than it costs the company to get your personal details from the license plate, sending the bill, administrating the payment etc. If you pass an automatic toll several times, they will send the bill.
Before the toll stations were completely automated, you only had an automated lane for the subscription holders. If you passed the toll station in the subscription lane with a foreign license plate (non-Scandinavian license plate), you would get a 'fine' from the same office in London.
They don't have any real means to actually get the money if you don't pay voluntarily.
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