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Old May 6th, 2011, 12:27 AM   #1361
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It's 3 km/h. Norwegian police don't use radar any more, lasers is the thing.
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Old May 6th, 2011, 10:48 AM   #1362
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For the larger cities there will just be one sign entering the city tough. I think the owner of the vehicle is liable.
Speed camera warnings onlyh when entering cities is not allowed anymore, all speed cameras have need specific signposting also within the city borders. In practice, this means that the sign has to be placed right before the camera.

In addition, speed tickets can only be given to drivers, not to owners. This means that the driver must be recognizable in the pictures.

Regarding the margins I am not sure. I guess you are right that there is a formal margin of 3 km/h. However, in practice, I think you will have to be extremely unlucky if you get caught in an ordinary police control when driving only 3 %. I you drive more than 10 % above (now I mean real speed, not speedometer reading), the police is more likely to pay attention, however. For speed cameras the situation may be different.

In any case, you should note that Norwegian speeding tickets go up to 8000 NOK or so, and at least Norwegian drivers lose their licence at 25 km/h speeding for speed limits at or below 60 km/h.
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Old May 9th, 2011, 12:15 AM   #1363
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Speed camera warnings onlyh when entering cities is not allowed anymore, all speed cameras have need specific signposting also within the city borders. In practice, this means that the sign has to be placed right before the camera.

In addition, speed tickets can only be given to drivers, not to owners. This means that the driver must be recognizable in the pictures.

Regarding the margins I am not sure. I guess you are right that there is a formal margin of 3 km/h. However, in practice, I think you will have to be extremely unlucky if you get caught in an ordinary police control when driving only 3 %. I you drive more than 10 % above (now I mean real speed, not speedometer reading), the police is more likely to pay attention, however. For speed cameras the situation may be different.

In any case, you should note that Norwegian speeding tickets go up to 8000 NOK or so, and at least Norwegian drivers lose their licence at 25 km/h speeding for speed limits at or below 60 km/h.

Do Norwegian speeding tickets put points on your licence like in the UK?

Also, if a camera goes off and it is a UK car, will the photo be able to pick out the driver as the steering wheel is on the other side of the car?
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Old May 9th, 2011, 12:27 AM   #1364
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Do Norwegian speeding tickets put points on your licence like in the UK?
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Also, if a camera goes off and it is a UK car, will the photo be able to pick out the driver as the steering wheel is on the other side of the car?
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Old May 9th, 2011, 11:53 AM   #1365
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Pretty sure they do. They do at least take a picture of that side. So they will be able to check it manually.
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Old May 10th, 2011, 03:06 PM   #1366
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Video from building of a high bridge on Porsgrunn - Larvik section of E18 motorway:

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Old May 10th, 2011, 04:41 PM   #1367
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Massive!
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Old May 11th, 2011, 04:58 PM   #1368
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Right where that bridge is constructed is now probably the worst part of current E18 Oslo-Kristiansand, with 40km/h speedlimit, two 90 degree curves and one more than 180 degree curve.
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Old May 13th, 2011, 09:21 PM   #1369
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Some urban Norwegian highway photos from http://kart.gulesider.no:
Trondheim:
http://kart.gulesider.no/m/aCWA4
http://kart.gulesider.no/m/aCfIF
http://kart.gulesider.no/m/aQZt7
http://kart.gulesider.no/m/aQZow

Oslo & surroundings:
http://kart.gulesider.no/m/aQZEf
http://kart.gulesider.no/m/aQZvP
http://kart.gulesider.no/m/aQZZr
http://kart.gulesider.no/m/aQZZH (historic, I guess)

Drammen
http://kart.gulesider.no/m/aQZOT
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Old May 14th, 2011, 08:25 AM   #1370
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hey

Ive been driving on all those roads in trondheim From B°rsa. so motortrafikkveg almost all the way from b°rsa to trondheim. E39 it ends near skanska. then continues near klettkrysset.
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Old May 14th, 2011, 04:05 PM   #1371
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That Lodalen (Rv190 x Ring2) intersection with all those abandoned ramps is a gem
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Old May 15th, 2011, 01:48 AM   #1372
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Gulesider should update their skrňfotos. Look at KvŠrnerbyen!
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Old May 15th, 2011, 08:54 AM   #1373
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That Lodalen (Rv190 x Ring2) intersection with all those abandoned ramps is a gem
Ive been driving lodalen Its a wonderful scenery.
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Old May 18th, 2011, 12:42 PM   #1374
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Update from E6 North motorway

Starting of at the south end of Rv3 near Stange where it has motortrafficway status with rumble-median:


Vk65 Kolomoen junction where we cross a nice bridge to enter E6 motorway southbound:


Vk64 is so close that the accelaration-lane turns into exitlane:


Going up the ramps to have a better look at Vk64:


E6 continues north as an 2-lane motortrafficway from Kolomoen, it's planned to build with motorway status untill the Mj°sa bridge.


Very wide median here:


Pre-rusted crash-barriers and signs are used for this motorway:




Characteristic for this motorway is the soft shoulders and lack of lamp-posts:


Guidance diode-lights are being used in this pilote-stretch to be evaluated against E18 during 2012:


One out of 6 planned automatic toll point for the 66km long Kolomoen - Jessheim motorway. Tolls are expected to be 90-100 NOK in total, they will finance 70% of the constructioncosts and each has a collecting period of 15 years:


Other Norwegian motorways have recently added barriers to this type of wide median due to collisions with lamp-posts:


Vk63 Tangenkrysset is the exitpoint of Fv222:


The median narrows from this point:




Typical Norwegian wooden arch-bridge:


There is an 8m soft-zone on each side of the road aswell as wild-life barriers:


This the northermost motorway in Norway, 12,7km opened for traffic in 2009:


Vk62 Skaberudkrysset comming up:


This 1,7km long section opened in november:






Temporary end point for the motorway comming up:




Preparatory works are already taking place for widening of this road:


Trees are being cut:


Some digging:


This road widening was delayed due to local protests over a proposed tunnels length:


The 21km stretch running next to Mj°sa lake will be built according to original plans and estimated to open in 2014 together with paralell railroad:


Rumble-median even on the passing-stretches:


No local roads here so tractors, mopeds and bikes must use E6 aswell, but this will change:


Reaching the roadworks at Minnesund where E6 is closed and traffic runs over local roads:


Before the Lillehammer olympics of 1994 E6 motortrafficway was bypassed of the village:


Widening of the bridge:


The old narrow bridge:




Back on the real E6 route where widening is taking place:






Julsrud bridge remains mostly open during widening:


Unlike some other motortrafficways this one wasn't prepared for widening and new bridges and interesctions are necessary:




The 19km section will open in november:






Running trough the 2nd Eidsvoll tunnel tube:






Landmark-bridges and mood-lighting are measures to keep motorists from falling asleep on through this monotonous landscape:


Many temporary round-abouts are in place during construction:




















At Andelva a filling is being raplaced by bridge for environmental reasons:






Entering motorway again at Vk53 Dalskrysset:


Dalskrysset consists of a large round-about on top of the motorway:


This section has 100km/h southbound and 90km/h northbound due to old concrete tarmac on the northbound lanes:


The 10km section opened in 2009:


It is a traditional motorway with hard shoulders and lamp-posts:


Ecoduct:














Toll point number one:


Meeting up with the old motorway from 1998:
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Old May 18th, 2011, 01:05 PM   #1375
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Some more roadpics

Starting of with the narrow 2+2 road that is Rv2/E16:

Bridge over E6, service station acts as manual toll point:


4-lane motortrafficway with 90km/h limit:


This road opened in 2007:


It has a few round-abouts, but also one 2-plane intersection here at Borgen:






Typical Norwegian to toll the old road aswell:


The old Rv2 has had it's yellow markings removed, but reflectors are still in place so you know this road was once important as no small roads in Norway has those:






Turning back at Vk1:










Right on the colour, but wrong symbol for the Trondheim sign:




Entering E6 to Oslo:


Wire-barriers


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The Elk-motorway?


Didn't bother with green numbers on this route:


Again Elk:


And again no green number:


Adding a lane:


More elk!


Another lane:


Entering Oslo City:


Wide motorway:


Low speedlimit:


Welcome to Grorud-valley:










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Old May 18th, 2011, 06:52 PM   #1376
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Great work!!! We needed a real update on this tread!
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Old May 19th, 2011, 05:19 PM   #1377
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PS Dont like those brown pre rusted crashbarriers and sign poles. Looks like something old Italian stuff.
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Old May 19th, 2011, 05:26 PM   #1378
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The Elk-motorway?
Looks like a moose sign, rather than an elk/reindeer sign to me. Either way though, awesome pics.
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Old May 19th, 2011, 06:49 PM   #1379
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Its a moose yeah, we don't have elk's in Norway!
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Old May 19th, 2011, 11:00 PM   #1380
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Eitherway, those are animals not suited for a 70.000 aadt road! How come those are not fenced in like further north?
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