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Old December 18th, 2011, 07:41 PM   #1701
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I know someone with a hytta at Brunvoll, he's amazed at this plan since most of the houses on Haroy are holiday homes.

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Old December 20th, 2011, 11:41 PM   #1702
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New sign that will be used on motorway exits from January 1st:



It's design is inspired by "the Austrian hand". They hope this sign will make it easier for old and/or stressed out drivers to not make the mistake of driving on the wrong ramp. (the road authorities refere to them as the "KMK"s, -kjøring mot kjøreretning (driving against driving direction), and has counted 15 KMK's leading to accidents, killing 5, seriously injuring 7 and hurting 19 people in the period of 2002-2009)


There are some other changes in the roadsign-system as well. One of them is this new sign, meaning "traffic accident":


I'm sorry, but the tipped over car really gets me!
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Old December 21st, 2011, 05:56 AM   #1703
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New sign that will be used on motorway exits from January 1st:


No snuffing on Norwegian motorways?
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Old December 21st, 2011, 09:38 PM   #1704
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It's design is inspired by "the Austrian hand". They hope this sign will make it easier for old and/or stressed out drivers to not make the mistake of driving on the wrong ramp. (the road authorities refere to them as the "KMK"s, -kjøring mot kjøreretning (driving against driving direction), and has counted 15 KMK's leading to accidents, killing 5, seriously injuring 7 and hurting 19 people in the period of 2002-2009)


There are some other changes in the roadsign-system as well. One of them is this new sign, meaning "traffic accident":

I'm sorry, but the tipped over car really gets me!
We simply use the familiar "Do Not Enter" sign and a little further down, a red sign with the words 'WRONG WAY"

Google Streetview:
http://maps.google.ca/?ll=50.654219,...,62.65,,2,1.34

And the wrong way sign:
http://maps.google.ca/?ll=50.654341,...112.15,,2,2.25

What? A sign that says: ACCIDENT SCENE in Norwegian not good enough? Even the car silhouette looks embarrassed.
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Old December 22nd, 2011, 12:28 AM   #1705
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Yep, that's what we use today: http://maps.google.ca/?ll=59.662633,...2,,0,5.11&z=15
I guess this sign will replace that one..

About textual signs, I guess you know these are far more common in North America than Europe, as you are much more likely to have drivers not knowing the local language here. For warning signs, text only is pretty much out of the question. Norwegian motorways are usually flooded with Poles, Rumanians, Bulgarians, Portoguese etc. with limitid knowledge in local traffic rules. An alternative could be English signs, but I really don't see that happening either.
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Old December 26th, 2011, 04:53 AM   #1706
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Will there be any new motorway or motortrafikkvei stretches opening next year?
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Old December 26th, 2011, 04:11 PM   #1707
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The only major project opening in 2012 is as far as I know E 18 Sky (Larvik) - Langangen (Porsgrunn) (11 km motorway) next fall.

Otherwise I don't know of any projects.
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Old December 26th, 2011, 08:46 PM   #1708
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Exactly, most projects aren't motorway or motortrafficway - i may add these motortrafficways for 2012 (not sure if the shorter projects will be signed as such):

E6 Øyer - Tretten 13,5km 2+1 motortrafficway
Rv510 Solasplitten 4km 1+1 motortrafficway
Rv47 Norheim - Raglamyr 1,5km 1+1 motortrafficway
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Old December 27th, 2011, 12:09 AM   #1709
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E 6 Gråmyra in Nord-Trøndelag replace a 1,3 km gap between two existing motortrafficways, but does sadly have a roundabout in the middle.

E 6 Sparbu - Vist (1,5 km extension of existing motortrafficway) in Nord-Trøndelag was supposed to be started back in March and open this fall. But hasn't even started yet. The project page now says start in 2012. Hopefully an opening as well?
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Old December 28th, 2011, 01:57 AM   #1710
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Anyone know how much time the Hardanger Bridge that will open in 2013, will shorten the drive(if any) between Oslo and Bergen?
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Old December 28th, 2011, 07:19 AM   #1711
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Anyone know how much time the Hardanger Bridge that will open in 2013, will shorten the drive(if any) between Oslo and Bergen?
The bridge is located a few kilometres to the west of the ferry, and the change in the driving distance is negligible.



The time saving comes from the ferry crossing time (10 minutes) plus the waiting time (departure every 40-60 minutes).
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Old December 28th, 2011, 12:01 PM   #1712
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And the toll? Has there been any word on how much the toll is going to cost?
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Old December 28th, 2011, 12:09 PM   #1713
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What about the road network before and after the bridge? At least the E-16 is a "proper road" with yellow lines down the middle. The rv7 and the 40 look like the roads to use in conjunction with the bridge but if they are those silly little roads that make it hard for a big truck and a car to pass each other, then it might makes sense to still take the E-16, especially if the toll on the bridge will be abnormally high.
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Old December 28th, 2011, 01:10 PM   #1714
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What about the road network before and after the bridge? At least the E-16 is a "proper road" with yellow lines down the middle. The rv7 and the 40 look like the roads to use in conjunction with the bridge but if they are those silly little roads that make it hard for a big truck and a car to pass each other, then it might makes sense to still take the E-16, especially if the toll on the bridge will be abnormally high.
I do not know if the toll is agreed yet. The initial estimate in 2004 was NOK 110 for a passenger car. I would expect a price tag of NOK 130-150 at the date of opening. The estimated toll collection period is 15 years. (The toll is already there: The ferry ticket contains a surcharge of NOK 22 as an advance payment.)

There are no big differences between the four primary route options (E16 over Fagernes, E16/52/7 over Gol, E16/13/7 over Hardanger bridge and Gol, E16/13/7/40 over Hardanger bridge and Kongsberg). Currenly, the most popular one is E16/52/7.

The current daily traffic of 900 vehicles over Hardangervidda (the mountain area between the bridge and the village of Geilo) is expected to grow to 1300 vehicles. The "losers" are E16 and E134 (over Haukeli).
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Old December 28th, 2011, 01:58 PM   #1715
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Fv40 has yellow markings all the way, but it have sharp turns most of it's length and runs at a high altitude, so Rv7 is more popular for Oslo - Geilo.

Not sure about the final number for tolls on Hardanger bridge, but last number i read was 112 kroner for cars.
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Old December 28th, 2011, 03:59 PM   #1716
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New sign that will be used on motorway exits from January 1st:



It's design is inspired by "the Austrian hand". They hope this sign will make it easier for old and/or stressed out drivers to not make the mistake of driving on the wrong ramp. (the road authorities refere to them as the "KMK"s, -kjøring mot kjøreretning (driving against driving direction), and has counted 15 KMK's leading to accidents, killing 5, seriously injuring 7 and hurting 19 people in the period of 2002-2009)


There are some other changes in the roadsign-system as well. One of them is this new sign, meaning "traffic accident":


I'm sorry, but the tipped over car really gets me!
Similar signs in Italy:


and Austria
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Old December 28th, 2011, 10:30 PM   #1717
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Old January 2nd, 2012, 02:21 PM   #1718
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Start of construction of E18 Momarken-Homstvedt in Østfold: http://www.vegvesen.no/Vegprosjekter...kiv/294986.cms

This stretch is half of the E18 Momarken-Melleby-project, and the project will mainly be built as motorway: http://www.vegvesen.no/Vegprosjekter...lleby-Momarken
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Old January 2nd, 2012, 05:58 PM   #1719
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It's a 2+2 and 1+1 expressway - 90km/h.
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Old January 3rd, 2012, 01:19 PM   #1720
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It's a 2+2 and 1+1 expressway - 90km/h.
Yes, you're right. I didn't see it before.
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