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Old January 24th, 2012, 06:51 PM   #1761
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The road law (?) applies to any vehicle, on any road, private or public. For instance, you can not drive a car across uncultivated land/«utmark», basically where there are no roads. Secondly, you can not break any speed limits or drive without your belt on private (even your own) roads. So yes, they can check you from, and on, private roads, but these are highly theoretical edge cases.

Land ownership is not very strong in Norway, so I'll guess that doing these checks from a parking lot is OK, as long as they don't break the regulations for the parking lot in question. Like not paying for parking, or taking up space for those who are supposed to park there.

That's probably why they asked.
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Old March 10th, 2012, 09:55 PM   #1762
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The simple answer is no, they don't have police power and cannot fine anyone for anything, most certainly not for speeding. They may check the state of cars, mechanically speaking, and they are empowered to remove plates from cars deemed unsafe (unless I'm gravely mistaken).

When it comes to the use of private property, I'm less sure about the rules. I would imagine, though, that the police are allowed to do random checks from privately owned roads etc, but I'm far from certain.
That's where you are wrong. The Statens Vegvesen (The Norwegian Public Roads Administration) are alowed to fine anyone that breaks the speed limit, or any other rules on the road, but they need a confirmation from the police in any operation they have. They may also cooperate with the police, or there may be a sivil uniformed police with them when they operate.
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Old March 27th, 2012, 02:47 PM   #1763
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Video from the E18 Larvik - Porsgrunn opening in june:

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Old March 27th, 2012, 08:21 PM   #1764
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Old April 3rd, 2012, 05:19 PM   #1765
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Am I correct in guessing that Lithuanian truckers are no longer welcome in Norway are no longer welcome after that spectacular wreck where both the truck and the wrecker went over the bank.
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Old April 3rd, 2012, 10:58 PM   #1766
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Am I correct in guessing that Lithuanian truckers are no longer welcome in Norway are no longer welcome after that spectacular wreck where both the truck and the wrecker went over the bank.
That issue does not apply to Lithuanians only but trucks coming from all the eastern European countries. About every sixth of those is said to be in a miserable condition.

The trucks usually have summer tyres only, no chains, and the drivers are not skillful enough to drive at the winter conditions.

That Lithuanian hero had put chains on one tyre only.
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Old April 6th, 2012, 11:14 PM   #1767
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There will never be a ban on trucks from a specific country, but they are hitting hard on trucks coming from ferries, especially here in Kristiansand, where I live. There are obviously more bad stuff from some countries, but everyone is checked. One time a smart guy tried to drive away from the control post, but got stuck on the hill leading up to E 39 from the ferry terminal. He wasn't going anywhere.

Also, remember that this Lithuanian man is still recovering in hospital. The winter conditions we have in Norway are really not good for heavy trucks, especially on the roads we have some places. And it does not help that some drivers choose long detours on small roads just to avoid tolls.

I say, given the circumstances, that the employers have the responsibility for this mess that happens every year. However, there would have been less mess if the government made sure that the roads were as good as they could be.
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Old April 6th, 2012, 11:52 PM   #1768
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There will never be a ban on trucks from a specific country, but they are hitting hard on trucks coming from ferries, especially here in Kristiansand, where I live. There are obviously more bad stuff from some countries, but everyone is checked. One time a smart guy tried to drive away from the control post, but got stuck on the hill leading up to E 39 from the ferry terminal. He wasn't going anywhere.

Also, remember that this Lithuanian man is still recovering in hospital. The winter conditions we have in Norway are really not good for heavy trucks, especially on the roads we have some places. And it does not help that some drivers choose long detours on small roads just to avoid tolls.

I say, given the circumstances, that the employers have the responsibility for this mess that happens every year. However, there would have been less mess if the government made sure that the roads were as good as they could be.
Since they can't ban trucks regarding their nationality, they can ban trucks that don't meet certain safety standards (like chains or winter tyres in winter) and close small roads to heavy vehicles.
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Old April 7th, 2012, 09:12 PM   #1769
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Since they can't ban trucks regarding their nationality, they can ban trucks that don't meet certain safety standards (like chains or winter tyres in winter) and close small roads to heavy vehicles.
It's quite bizarre that winter tyres aren't mandatory in the winter months up here. The law does state, however, that your vehicle needs to be able to deal with the conditions on the road. The issue with many smaller roads is that they're often the only link for smaller communities to the outside world, and a ban on lorries would seriously complicate things for trade and industry in these areas (lumber trucks is one such example, there are many others). A ban on transit traffic might work better, but even that may cause considerable problems in some areas.
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Old April 7th, 2012, 09:24 PM   #1770
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You can ban and mandate this and that, but it all comes down to enforcement, which is quite hard in such a sparsely populated country. I'm sure the police has better things to do than check every back road for foreign trucks not having the right equipment.
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Old April 7th, 2012, 09:59 PM   #1771
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It would be easy to enforce in Norway, there are only so many ways of getting into the country, most would probably come via ferry, it's easy to police the ferry ports or they cross the border from Sweden, traffic from Sweden would also come via a limited number of routes which could also be easily policed. I'm sure the Swedes also have issues with foreign trucks with incorrect tyres.
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Old April 7th, 2012, 10:21 PM   #1772
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That issue does not apply to Lithuanians only but trucks coming from all the eastern European countries. About every sixth of those is said to be in a miserable condition.

The trucks usually have summer tyres only, no chains, and the drivers are not skillful enough to drive at the winter conditions.

That Lithuanian hero had put chains on one tyre only.
Do the customs at the finnish/russian border have auto inspection where they test the brakes on russian trucks before they are allowed to enter ?
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Old April 7th, 2012, 10:48 PM   #1773
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Do the customs at the finnish/russian border have auto inspection where they test the brakes on russian trucks before they are allowed to enter ?
The Finnish-Russian border is the external border to the EU and to the Schengen area. That is why the controls are strict, including assessing the technical condition of the vehicles. The Russian transport companies know the policy, and they do not try to enter Finland with bad vehicles. Thus, the Russians are nowadays not a problem.

Much of the goods traffic takes place across the sea as an intra-Schengen traffic. There is no possibility to inspect every vehicle at the ports. This opens the gates to the questionable trucks coming from the east European countries being members of the EU. I think the situation is similar in the Swedish and Norwegian ports, too.
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Old April 7th, 2012, 10:54 PM   #1774
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Since they can't ban trucks regarding their nationality, they can ban trucks that don't meet certain safety standards (like chains or winter tyres in winter) and close small roads to heavy vehicles.
That particular incident happened at the road 78, if I understood correctly, thus being a part of the main road network. Many main roads in Norway are challenging even in the summer conditions but you cannot block those, of course.
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Old April 24th, 2012, 04:16 AM   #1775
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Recently, Norway and Sweden agreed to reroute E16 so that it would turn east toward Sweden instead of reaching Oslo as it has for years. Has Norway signed the new E16 so that motorists can follow it by signs, or are there still issues to resolve before the relocation occurs?
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Old April 24th, 2012, 09:01 AM   #1776
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The signing is supposed to be finished this year, but there are no issues less than actually putting the signs up, as far as I understand. What I do not understand though, is why they will leave the part from Hønefoss to Sandvika as E 16. It is by any standards far to long to be called a "spur". Also, they could just call it Riksvei/Fylkesvei 7 and be done with it. We just got rid of the stupid dual-E 6 business in Trondheim so this one I really don't get...
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Perhaps they had to do it to make Oslo a signed destination? I don't know the E-route rules, though...
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Old April 24th, 2012, 11:48 PM   #1778
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The signing is supposed to be finished this year, but there are no issues less than actually putting the signs up, as far as I understand. What I do not understand though, is why they will leave the part from Hønefoss to Sandvika as E 16. It is by any standards far to long to be called a "spur". Also, they could just call it Riksvei/Fylkesvei 7 and be done with it. We just got rid of the stupid dual-E 6 business in Trondheim so this one I really don't get...
Without that kludge it would be difficult to justify E16 being The Road connecting the two largest cities in Norway.

In my opinion, the whole system of E roads should be ramped down. It does not add much value any more, but it makes things complex because every single member country implements it differently. Why should the United Nations bother about numbering the European roads.
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Old May 11th, 2012, 11:21 PM   #1779
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Rv13 Ryfast

Plans for Ryfast has been approved by the government, so we are set to start construction this fall on the two twin-tube sub-sea tunnels. The 5,7km long Hundvåg tunnel will ramp of from a new E39 tunnel under central Stavanger, then the road runs trough a surface round-about before the 14,3km long Solbakk tunnel that reaches 290 meters below sea-level (longest and deepest sub-sea car tunnel). Construction cost is 690 million euro and the states share is 0%. Tolls for cars are expected at 32 euro for Solbakk tunnel and 3,7 euro for Hundvåg tunnel.

Opening is scheduled for 2018.



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Old May 12th, 2012, 12:28 AM   #1780
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Yowtzha that's an impressive project. The tolls are steep though... why can't the Norwegian government provide good infrastructure with the $ 500 billion+ oil fund? The interest on that fund alone could provide an excellent transportation system.
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