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Old December 20th, 2008, 06:53 PM   #221
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they are underground in the city too. Also La Defence Station is underground too.
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Old December 20th, 2008, 06:57 PM   #222
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There is no underground or elevated suburban station inside inner Paris (excluding RER)
Anyway outside the inner city there is many elevated stations.
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Old December 21st, 2008, 02:19 PM   #223
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It was allready old in 1979. They are still in operation: that's a shame.
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Old December 22nd, 2008, 12:19 PM   #224
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There is no underground or elevated suburban station inside inner Paris (excluding RER)
Anyway outside the inner city there is many elevated stations.
Gare Montparnasse is underground beneath an office building complex
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Old December 22nd, 2008, 07:02 PM   #225
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I am talking about heavy-rail not metro
Me too... but I was referring to RER
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There is no underground or elevated suburban station inside inner Paris (excluding RER)
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Gare Montparnasse is underground beneath an office building complex
Theoretically it is not underground as they built the buildings and more recently a 'square' elevated over the rail tracks and platforms that are at grade

Even in Milan Graibaldi station is partly 'covered' by two skyscrapers they built over the tracks from 12 to 20
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Old December 22nd, 2008, 07:12 PM   #226
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Gare Montparnasse is underground beneath an office building complex
No, the station is not underground and the plateforms are much higher than the street level, on the second floor. You may had the feeling to be underground because a public garden has been built above the tracks in the mid 80'.
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Old April 8th, 2009, 01:31 PM   #227
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NAT or Francillien





Metropole

These trains will greatly modernize the rolling stock of our suburban network.
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Old April 19th, 2009, 07:11 PM   #228
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There they are then , I even didn't recognize them in their grey colour
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Old April 19th, 2009, 08:39 PM   #229
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It is a train without the livery.
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Old April 20th, 2009, 01:15 PM   #230
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Theoretically it is not underground as they built the buildings and more recently a 'square' elevated over the rail tracks and platforms that are at grade

Even in Milan Graibaldi station is partly 'covered' by two skyscrapers they built over the tracks from 12 to 20
Construction *above* existing train tracks? That's interesting, could you give any links/info about that project perhaps?
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Old April 21st, 2009, 02:24 PM   #231
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It's not as complicated as it appears. You have to build the structure on 'pilotis' between the rail tracks

Anyway, this is Montparnasse railstation: buildings and a garden/square built on the whole area of the platforms

[IMG]http://i43.************/2q3u615.jpg[/IMG]


And here Milano Garibaldi station
The two towers (now under recladding) lay on part of the platform area, but there is a project (just the will, currently) to make like at Montparnasse and 'cover' everything

[IMG]http://i44.************/15cy9w9.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i43.************/28hhhyw.jpg[/IMG]

The project was of '80s



Here a aerview of end of '80s when just one tower was u/c: you can see the tracks now 'covered'




www.milanofoto.it

Here one of the platforms under the towers

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In this map you can see how the two towers are laying on the platforms: you can also see that tracks from 13 to 20 are crossing tracks and go underground into a tunnel which connects 'em to Monza direction
You can also see an S-line tunnel and various metro tunnels

[IMG]http://i39.************/11jvj42.jpg[/IMG]
www.msrmilano.com

One of the towers seen from the passengers terminal

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Old April 21st, 2009, 03:10 PM   #232
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Awesome!
I realize that it's not a particularly complicated way of building, it's just that I've never heard of anyone doing it like this.
Thanks a lot for the elaborate info, I really appreciate it.
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Old September 3rd, 2009, 10:50 PM   #233
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Ermont Eaubonne





















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Old September 8th, 2009, 01:18 PM   #234
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Brand new? I like it

I'm wondering why they didn't connect even the two tracks to St.Lazare leavin' 'em dead-end
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Old September 11th, 2009, 06:24 PM   #235
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The tracks used to be connected before 2006 when they totally renovated the station and the tracks layout. A long time ago it was possible to ride from St-Lazare to Gare du Nord via Ermont-Eaubonne on this spur. Due to exploitation necessities Ermont-Eaubonne eventually became the terminus for the trains coming from St-Lazare.
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Old November 6th, 2009, 03:29 PM   #236
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This is our new suburban rolling stock.
The Z50000 also called NAT or Francilien.

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By 2016 most of our rolling stock should be under twenty years old while today many of our trains are about 40 years old.
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Old November 7th, 2009, 04:09 AM   #237
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Beautiful trains!
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Old November 8th, 2009, 10:35 AM   #238
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those new trains are really colourful, i like it.
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Old November 11th, 2009, 04:14 PM   #239
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Brand new? I like it

I'm wondering why they didn't connect even the two tracks to St.Lazare leavin' 'em dead-end
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The tracks used to be connected before 2006 when they totally renovated the station and the tracks layout. A long time ago it was possible to ride from St-Lazare to Gare du Nord via Ermont-Eaubonne on this spur. Due to exploitation necessities Ermont-Eaubonne eventually became the terminus for the trains coming from St-Lazare.
It is not exactly the case, these tracks to Saint Lazare where in fact the Argenteuil branch of the RER C.
It was not possible to do Ermont Eaubonnes - Saint Lazare without a change in Argenteuil.
They closed this branch and remplaced it by a new line Saint Lazare-Argenteuil-Ermont Eabonnes.
They did some heavy work, adding new tracks, building new bridge over the Seine river.

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Old November 11th, 2009, 04:41 PM   #240
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The map that I posted in the first pot of this thread show well how was the situation before the end of 2006.
Ermont Eaubonnes and Argenteuil are in the northwest.

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