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Old June 23rd, 2011, 11:20 PM   #401
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It is almost impossible to have a wheeled train commercially running at 600 km/hr. There are many more factors which play a major role at high speed such as friction between rail and wheels, friction between pantograph and overhead wires. MagLev is better suited for such speeds.
I never talking about a commercial speed 600 km / h, but to break the world speed record, whether to 600km / h would be faster than the maglev train in Japan MLX-01
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To get commercial at a speed of 600km/h it is best use maglev technology
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Old June 23rd, 2011, 11:51 PM   #403
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Once the world rail speed record is broken, Alstom will break it again. It's of utmost importance to them for, among others, marketing purposes: "Alstom is the leader in high speed rail".
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Old June 24th, 2011, 12:40 AM   #404
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Maybe, only maybe, one day AnsaldoBreda will break the World's speed record for track-based vehicle.
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Old June 24th, 2011, 03:12 AM   #405
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Old June 24th, 2011, 02:00 PM   #406
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Maybe, only maybe, one day AnsaldoBreda will break the World's speed record for track-based vehicle.
They are more likely to break the world record for late delivery first...
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Old June 30th, 2011, 10:21 AM   #407
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Video from the new LGV Rhin-Rhone line: http://www.lgvrhinrhone.tv/video/pre...-juin-2011-144

Inauguration: 11th December 2011
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Old June 30th, 2011, 10:33 PM   #408
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Which "new" TGV connections are available with this line?

Which are next works on network?
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Old June 30th, 2011, 10:43 PM   #409
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Quickly answered: Lyon-Mâcon-Chalon sur Saône-Dijon (start of LGV)-Besançon-Mulhouse (end of LGV)-Strasbourg/Basel and further away from each end.

Next thing: Lorraine TGV-Strasbourg (final part of LGV Est). Construction work started.

Connection between Avignon-TGV and Avignon-Centre (only for regional TER trains, but nevertheless VERY important). Construction work started too.

Then Montpellier-Nimes... and then Tours-Bordeaux and Le Mans-Sablé sur Sarthe et Le Mans-Laval-Rennes. Not yet started, getting late.

And then... other projects.

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Old July 1st, 2011, 09:42 AM   #410
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Connection between Avignon-TGV and Avignon-Centre (only for regional TER trains, but nevertheless VERY important). Construction work started too.
It seems that finally some sanity is breaking out at SNCF...

What are they going to do? Looking at the station I thought that the best option would have been to build a new station where the old line to Marseille crosses the LGV, about a km east of Avignon TGV, and have a kine of people mover, or rolling carpet between both stations.
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Old July 1st, 2011, 07:25 PM   #411
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Video from the new LGV Rhin-Rhone line: http://www.lgvrhinrhone.tv/video/pre...-juin-2011-144

Inauguration: 11th December 2011
Great. I suppose all Lyria services will be rerouted to this LGV?
And that great new livery (white) - is it limited to 1 trainset? or that would be all new double-deckers?
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Old July 1st, 2011, 08:39 PM   #412
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Great. I suppose all Lyria services will be rerouted to this LGV?
Yes, all Lyria services from Zurich will run via this route (six trains/day&direction). So from the 11th December all Lyria services will start/end in the Gare de Lyon in Paris.

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And that great new livery (white) - is it limited to 1 trainset? or that would be all new double-deckers?
I think it's limited to one trainset, but I don't know it for sure.
In the french wikipedia article you can also find two pictures of the trainset: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGV_Rhin-Rh%C3%B4ne

The trainset with the special livery reached 359,2 km/h on the new line during a test: http://www.macommune.info/actualite/...ure-21122.html

Interesting private blog about the construction of the new line: http://tgvrhinrhone.wordpress.com/

The new line will serve the following routes:

(Frankfurt) - Strasbourg - Lyon - Marseille/Montpellier
(Zurich) - Mulhouse - Paris
Mulhouse - Lille (1x day)

The exact timetable you can find here: http://www.sncf.com/en_EN/html/media...d-article.html
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The exact timetable you can find here: http://www.sncf.com/en_EN/html/media...d-article.html
This site is dated as from 2007, so I think it wouldn't be a reliable source.
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This site is dated as from 2007, so I think it wouldn't be a reliable source.


If you'd clicked on a pdf, then you would have seen, that it's from the beginning of this year (=2011).
11/01/07 = year/month/day

And also what would be the sense to publish exact timetables in 2011 already in 2007, when it's not even save, that the line will be ready then?
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Old July 1st, 2011, 10:07 PM   #415
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If you'd clicked on a pdf, then you would have seen, that it's from the beginning of this year (=2011).
11/01/07 = year/month/day

And also what would be the sense to publish exact timetables in 2011 already in 2007, when it's not even save, that the line will be ready then?
Sorry, you are right. I mistook 11/01/07 on the American format as the site was written in British English.
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Old July 2nd, 2011, 12:55 AM   #416
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And then... other projects.
In my opinion, the two most important "other projects" are:
* Paris - Orleans - Limoges - Toulouse
* Paris - Amiens - Calais
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In my opinion, the two most important "other projects" are:
* Paris - Orleans - Limoges - Toulouse
* Paris - Amiens - Calais
What about a project to link Clermont-Ferrand?
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Old July 2nd, 2011, 02:54 AM   #418
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[QUOTE=hhouse;80676610]So from the 11th December all Lyria services will start/end in the Gare de Lyon in Paris.[/url]

TGV Lyria ordered new stock and shorten travel times. There was some rumors that they will start serve some new destinations in Germany. Have you got some details?
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Old July 2nd, 2011, 04:02 AM   #419
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I was thinking... Does SNCF plans to re-route Paris-Italy TGV trains to a new route via Switzerland (Paris-Genève-Brig-Domodossola-Milano)?
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Old July 2nd, 2011, 10:29 AM   #420
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TGV Lyria ordered new stock and shorten travel times. There was some rumors that they will start serve some new destinations in Germany. Have you got some details?
TGV Lyria is the brand for TGVs between France and Switzerland...
Alleo is the joint venture for the TGVs (and ICEs) between France and Germany. But it's not as known as Lyria, they don't even have a up-to-date website (www.alleo.eu) and no english wikipedia article (only german and french).
From the 11th December on, there will be one new TGV between Frankfurt and Marseille, but the travel time is to long at the moment - according to this post: http://ice-treff.de/index.php?id=128337 it will take 7 hours and 45 minutes with 11 stops and the arrival at 10 p.m. is also really unattractive!
But what I know the travel time on the route Strasbourg - Lyon will decrease by the end of 2012, when some works in Mulhouse are finished.

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I was thinking... Does SNCF plans to re-route Paris-Italy TGV trains to a new route via Switzerland (Paris-Genève-Brig-Domodossola-Milano)?
I don't know, if that would make sense... Paris - Milano via Geneve would take around seven hours (3:05 for Paris-Geneve + 3:53 for Geneve-Milano) so it's not really shorter than the trip via the French Alps and the TGVs aren't even using the high speed line between Torino and Milano. If they would use it, the journey would take only around 6 hours and 15 minutes.
Also from the economic view it wouldn't make much sense to use the route via Switzerland.
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