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Old June 18th, 2014, 09:45 PM   #881
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For those who might be interested, SNCF has published data about the consequences of social actions since 1947.

https://ressources.data.sncf.com/exp...947/?tab=table
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Old June 19th, 2014, 04:56 AM   #882
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That's just a dumb stereotype. Read this (written by a British): http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...s-on-treadmill

You may not like social and professional categories having a culture of fighting for rights, but at least don't resort to dumb stereotypes.
Nothing wrong with strikes or fighting for better labor rights, but the amount of strikes that have occurred in France tells me that there is something wrong with the labor or working conditions in that country.
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Old June 19th, 2014, 05:03 AM   #883
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Nothing wrong with strikes or fighting for better labor rights, but the amount of strikes that have occurred in France tells me that there is something wrong with the labor or working conditions in that country.
Definitely. Dunno how much it is perception but it does feel like transport strikes are by far the most common ones. This time it's quite big, in response to some important legislation that's being discussed (not read about it more yet), and the personnel isn't relaxing but taking it to the streets. But on other occasions it's just stuff like train conductors wanting some more bonuses and privileges on top of the awesome privileges they already have, and then everyone will be annoyed.
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Old June 19th, 2014, 05:08 AM   #884
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Hate the wide open interior design. Looks like a suburban train. What is wrong with an ICE3 or Virgin Pendolino type layout?
How fast do normal trains in France go?
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Old June 19th, 2014, 06:21 AM   #885
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Nothing wrong with strikes or fighting for better labor rights, but the amount of strikes that have occurred in France tells me that there is something wrong with the labor or working conditions in that country.
Nowadays unions mostly to on strike to preserve privileges, not for "rights". Compared to the rest of the country railway workers have it excellent.
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Old June 19th, 2014, 06:46 AM   #886
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Had a look over this summary (in French): http://www.lemonde.fr/les-decodeurs/...8_4355770.html

This time it doesn't seem to be about stuff like wages, bonuses, days off, pensions etc, but about the way structural reform is done so that it benefits everyone. Some of the stuff is quite abstract (but I remember the issue of the separation between the rail infrastructure authority being previously discussed in this thread) but some of the minor, punctual demands about the "re-humanisation" of traveling I actually quite liked.
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Old June 19th, 2014, 06:47 AM   #887
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Definitely. Dunno how much it is perception but it does feel like transport strikes are by far the most common ones.
Or maybe the most visible ones abroad?

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This time it's quite big, in response to some important legislation that's being discussed (not read about it more yet), and the personnel isn't relaxing but taking it to the streets.
I acknowledge the way they stand up for what they believe are their rights.
I won´t deny that.

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But on other occasions it's just stuff like train conductors wanting some more bonuses and privileges on top of the awesome privileges they already have, and then everyone will be annoyed.
Indeed. The city of Marseille in particular has made a local trademark out of that.
Even inside of France, Marseille is regarded as the 'strike city'.

Needless to say, I´ve suffered one Marseille rail strike too (I was travelling from Marseille to Nice), and apparently some of the Sncf workers at Marseille-St Charles station went on strike because they didn´t like their new chairs at their staff room or some (unbelievable elsewhere) story of the like.

On the other hand, this coexists with the most used commuter rail line in Europe (the RER A in Paris, although perhaps it may be rivalled by London´s Crossrail 1 soon -or not, we´ll see), and the TGV service which is overall really good, and normally railways in France are more reliable than in Germany, for instance (not sure about the UK).
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Old June 19th, 2014, 07:18 AM   #888
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Are the working conditions good for the average French worker? Sorry for being off-topic.
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Old June 22nd, 2014, 04:14 AM   #889
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Nothing wrong with strikes or fighting for better labor rights, but the amount of strikes that have occurred in France tells me that there is something wrong with the labor or working conditions in that country.
There aren't many strike in France, in private sector there are very few strike.
It is in the public sector where the strike are common and it depends of the companies.
By examples, strike are quite uncommon in the RATP network (except for the RER B).

The reality is not so much the working condition but the social climate, there are a lot of tensions between between unions and employers.
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Old June 23rd, 2014, 04:42 PM   #890
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Swap bodies to carry mail by rail
23 Jun 2014



FRANCE: The post office announced on June 19 a three-year €100m investment programme that will see mail moving by rail in swap bodies from a new terminal to be built at Bonneuil-sur-Marne in the southeastern suburbs of Paris. Due to open towards the end of 2015 at a cost of €23m, the new terminal will replace that at Paris-Charolais used by the dedicated fleet of postal TGV trainsets.

La Poste says that moving mail by TGV no longer meets the changing requirements of its customers. From the end of 2015 bulk mail, newspapers and magazines and small freight consignments will be handled in swap bodies, with ‘at least 20’ moving on flat wagons between the Paris region and other terminals across France every day.

By 2017, the volume of mail moving by rail is expected to grow to exceed by 30% the capacity of the current TGV service, with La Poste aiming to become ‘a major operator’ in the intermodal sector. By consolidating operations from two road terminals, the new facility at Bonneuil-sur-Marne is expected to reduce lorry movements by 638 000 km a year, producing an annual saving of 1 800 tonnes in CO2 emissions
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Old June 23rd, 2014, 11:42 PM   #891
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How fast do normal trains in France go?
Around 120 / 160 km ph
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Old June 24th, 2014, 03:42 PM   #892
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Around 120 / 160 km ph
Except where they do 200-220 kph...
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Old June 26th, 2014, 07:11 PM   #893
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French track safety improvement project makes progress
Thursday, June 26, 2014



FRENCH National Railways (SNCF) and French Rail Network (RFF) are making considerable progress under the €410m four-year Vigirail project to improve the safety of points and modernise track maintenance according to a report presented to the SNCF board.

Vigirail was launched in October 2013 and includes the three recommendations to improve track safety following the preliminary report by the Office of Land Transport Accident Inquiries (BEA-TT) into the derailment of a Paris - Limoges Intercity train. This was caused by a dislodged fishplate in a set of points at Brétigny-sur-Orge south of Paris on July 12 2013 which resulted in the death of seven people with 32 injured.

One of the main objectives of Vigirail is to increase the number of turnouts being replaced annually from 326 in 2013 to 500 by 2017, with a doubling of turnout replacement in the Ile de France area. This will necessitate an industrialisation of the renewal process, and tests using flat wagons and Kirow cranes are planned between October and June 2015. It is hoped to replace 365 turnouts next year, while all the turnouts to be replaced in 2015 and 2016 have been identified.

This year SNCF plans to test three machines which can detect plain line anomalies by video and two machines to survey track devices by video. These machines will enter service next year following certification.

Early this year, 300 staff tested three prototype electronic systems for track maintenance inspection and monitoring the annual maintenance plan, while seven more systems are being developed. It is planned to deploy these systems on smartphones or tablets for use by 13,000 staff starting in March 2015.

A system to communicate anomalies on the network in real time called Alert Express will start to be rolled out across the network on July 1. In September, SNCF and RFF will begin to equip training centres with a 3D system to train track inspection and maintenance staff. Both systems should be fully operational nationally by the start of 2015
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CFL Multimodal opens new combined train route

http://www.transportjournal.com/home...ain-route.html

Can someone shed light on the loading gauge from Bettembourg down to Lyon please?

I thought that standard 4m-high semi-trailers could only be carried along this route on the special Modalohr wagons that SNCF uses for VIIA services.

But if the press photo is correct this new service is using standard piggyback wagons which are a few millimetres higher than the Modalohr wagons.

Has RFF enlarged the loading gauge recently north of Lyon?
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New TGV Strasbourg – Brussels service via LGV Est line will launch in 2016. More you can find here:
http://www.railjournal.com/index.php...ml?channel=542

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New TGV Strasbourg – Brussels service via LGV Est line will launch in 2016. More you can find here:
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They should extend this service to NEtherlands as well.
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What will be the exact route of the Strasbourg-Brussels connection? Where will it leave the LGV Est? Via which line will it arrive in Brussel?
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What will be the exact route of the Strasbourg-Brussels connection? Where will it leave the LGV Est? Via which line will it arrive in Brussel?
Probably it will use the Interconnexion d'Est and stop at CDG airport.
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