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Old March 5th, 2015, 03:22 AM   #961
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Subway / Underground Metro System in Monaco?

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A narrow gauge subway line is a perennial project in Monaco, which has not been built thus far.
Once in a while I come across talks of a subway system that is supposed to be built underneath Monaco., but I can never fins anymore information about it.

Anyone know anything?
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Old March 5th, 2015, 06:12 AM   #962
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I'm not sure that would be worth it given Monaco's size.
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Old March 5th, 2015, 07:08 AM   #963
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I can imagine some kind of underground funicular, maybe
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Old March 5th, 2015, 10:04 AM   #964
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I'm not sure that would be worth it given Monaco's size.
For all purposes, Monaco is part of a larger urban agglomeration where there could be demand for that. But Monaco policies are tricky, they want good access, but not that good access, as to preserve their exclusivity.
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Old March 5th, 2015, 10:13 PM   #965
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Well there is a big problem with traffic jams.
Then again I would assume it would be a system withing Monaco or just the immediate surrounding areas.

And the topography would make it more accessible.


Just wondered if someone have seen any plans or anything.
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Old April 13th, 2015, 04:46 PM   #966
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Idiot cyclists of the Paris-Roubaix classic race (Nord-Pas de Calais, northern France), at a level crossing.

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Old April 13th, 2015, 05:09 PM   #967
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So, did any of them get disqualified?
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Old April 13th, 2015, 05:44 PM   #968
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Old April 15th, 2015, 01:56 AM   #969
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Now that is what I call stupidity. Wow... They should have been fined for trespass on the railways (if that is possible in France).
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Old April 15th, 2015, 02:14 AM   #970
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So, did any of them get disqualified?
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Now that is what I call stupidity. Wow... They should have been fined for trespass on the railways (if that is possible in France).
The Sncf is trying to fine them if they can. Here:

BBC Sport

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Paris-Roubaix: Train company wants police action taken

The French state railway company SNCF has called for police action against cyclists in the Paris-Roubaix spring classic who crossed tracks with a safety barrier down, seconds before a high-speed train arrived.


[...] The SNCF has issued a statement calling for "several riders" to be prosecuted for acting "against all safety rules".

Race organisers have said the riders could not stop in time.

"Millions of television viewers saw live this extremely serious and irresponsible action which could have been tragic," said SNCF.

"A few seconds later, a TGV ran on this line and could have hit the peloton." [...]


[...] Race organisers said on Sunday they would not punish the riders.

"It wasn't possible for the leading riders to stop sufficiently safely," said Guy Dobbelaere, president of the jury of race commissioners. "The peloton was 10 metres away when the barrier started to close." [...]
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Old April 28th, 2015, 07:17 PM   #971
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Avignon – Carpentras line reopens
Tuesday, April 28, 2015



REGULAR passenger services returned to the French town of Carpentras for the first time in 77 years on April 25 with the reopening of the 17km branch from Sourges north of Avignon

Initially French National Railways (SNCF) is operating 13 services per day to Avignon, with trains running hourly at peak times, although this will be increased to 17 trains per day from August 31 with half-hourly frequencies in the peak. Services will be stepped up once more to 20 trains per day next year and the line is expected to carry around 4000 passengers per day when the full timetable is operational

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Old April 28th, 2015, 07:36 PM   #972
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An hourly service (and later on, even more) on a TER line? How much did they pay SNCF to do that??
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Old April 29th, 2015, 04:18 PM   #973
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French engineers are goood in Trains.
Do you know if there's a project of magnetic railways such as in Japan, or are they focused on the TGV ?
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Old April 30th, 2015, 01:08 AM   #974
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This was much needed.

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An hourly service (and later on, even more) on a TER line? How much did they pay SNCF to do that??
I don't remember, but the reopening of this line was not a very expensive thing.

This will be almost a commuter rail line.

The problem in Provence is that there are so many lines that were closed long ago and shouldn't have.
Most of them can be reopened easily, but investment doesn't come.
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Old April 30th, 2015, 01:25 AM   #975
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Reopening of the Sorgues-Carpentras line.

New TER timetables Avignon TGV-Avignon Centre-Carpentras Maybe some of you might like to travel there. The area is nice, but a bit windy.


Images of the reopened (and totally upgraded) Carpentras station.


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Entraigues sur la Sorgue station:

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Sorgues-Châteauneuf du Pape station (still with ongoing works when the pic was taken), looking towards Avignon and Marseille:

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Map of the line:

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Old April 30th, 2015, 01:31 AM   #976
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They went all-out on it. Kudos to SNCF and the regions that made this possible!
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Old April 30th, 2015, 08:44 AM   #977
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I see from the pictures that today, the line terminates in Carpentras. Was it always like that, or did the line go further on before ?
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The line Sorgues-Carpentras was always like that, with the same stations in the same place.
The only thing that has changed is that Althen des Paluds station hasn't reopened.
Note that the Sorgues-Carpentras line was never closed to all traffic, it was closed only to passengers in 1938, not for freight. Myself I remember a freight train leaving Sorgues station bound for Carpentras while I was on a TER from Avignon to Valence.

But Carpentras used to have another line, that was closed many years ago too, and went from Orange (on the Paris-Lyon-Marseille main line) to L'Isle sur la Sorgue (on the Avignon Centre-Cavaillon-Salon de Provence-Miramas line). This one was dismantled, you can see its remains when you leave Orange station south bound.

So Carpentras station used to be a junction in the past.
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Here's a map of the historical railway lines in the departement of Vaucluse:
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Reopening of the Sorgues-Carpentras line.

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nº1

First train, at Monteux station, TER Carpentras-Avignon.
Second train, at Monteux station, TER Avignon-Carpentras.
Third and fourth trains, at Sorgues-CHâteauneuf du Pape station, a TER Avignon-Carpentras and a TER Carpentras-Avignon, crossing. and Entraigues sur la Sorgue stations.
Firth train, inside a TER leaving Monteux station for Carpentras.
Sixth train, a TER Carpentras-Avignon arriving at Entraigues-sur-la-Sorgue station.





nº2

First train, a TER on a test run previous to the opening, passing by Monteux station.
Second train, a TER on a test run, leaving Carpentras station.

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