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Old August 8th, 2007, 07:40 PM   #81
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Few years ago I discovered that Saint-Germain or La Defense are independent cities.
La Défense is not a city, but just a district, partly on the cities of Nanterre, Courbevoie and Puteaux.

A part from that little mistake you are right about the division in Paris metro: 400 independent cities (= communes) for Paris urban area, 1600 for metro!

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Are the systems of Metro, RER and buses integrated (few operators under one mother-operator??)?
There are three companies operating the different systems:
RATP (=Parisian Transportation Authority) -> Métro (100%), RER (partly), Tram (3 lines out of 4), Bus (all Paris and inner suburbs lines)
SNCF (=National Railways) -> RER (partly), Tram (1 line only), suburban lines (100%)
OPTILE (=ILE-de-france Transportation Professional Organisation) -> buses in outer suburbs and metro area

Anyway these 3 companies are coordinated by the Ile-de-France Transportation Authority (STIF), therefore yes, with one card you will be able to go everywhere.

Otherwise I second what Eklips said about identity.
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Old September 20th, 2007, 02:24 AM   #82
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FRANCE | Railways

Anyone read Le Train regularly?

I've just got a copy of 'Les lignes de Paris a Lille, Bruxelles et Liege' from Platform 5 mail order. It's quite interesting and has track diagrams of different stations including Lille.

I was just wondering are there any books out there which have track diagrams for Paris and specifically le Gare du Nord?

I am determined to find out where all those 44 tracks are
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Old November 12th, 2007, 01:09 AM   #83
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New pictures of the NAT





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Old November 12th, 2007, 05:47 AM   #84
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What an earth is a "NAT"?
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Old November 12th, 2007, 08:54 AM   #85
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NAT = "Nouvelle Automotrice Transilien", the new generation of suburban trains that will serve Paris' network by 2009.
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Old November 12th, 2007, 03:26 PM   #86
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Now for the RER use this thread please.

Paris RER Thread
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Old November 12th, 2007, 11:51 PM   #87
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I like the colourful seats, looks retro
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Old November 16th, 2007, 01:24 AM   #88
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Suburban train picture by De Snor.

Courbevoie station




Suburban train of Saint Lazare network (serve Courbevoie station)


Suburban train at Gare de L'Est international
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Old November 16th, 2007, 01:28 AM   #89
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I have actually never taken the trancilien, does it work like an RER, are the prices similar?
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Old November 16th, 2007, 01:35 AM   #90
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I don't know I use my ImaginR contacless card.

I don't see big difference between Saint Lazare transillien and the RER C and D, the only big difference is that the Transillien Saint Lazare network work better.

A news information panel for suburban train at Saint Lazare railway terminal.
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Old November 16th, 2007, 01:06 PM   #91
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Yes prices are similar. A Transilien is just a RER that stops at a terminus basically
As Minato said, some Transiliens are more efficient to get to central Paris than some RERs.
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Old November 16th, 2007, 01:47 PM   #92
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Yes prices are similar. A Transilien is just a RER that stops at a terminus basically
As Minato said, some Transiliens are more efficient to get to central Paris than some RERs.
I would said transillien is a RER C or D that stops at a terminal railway.
Because for me RATP RER are more like a subway than a suburban train.

Note that the RATP RER have a smallest network but a highest riderships than SNCF RER.
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Old November 17th, 2007, 01:43 AM   #93
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The southern end of the B line doesn't really work like a metro, we only get a train every 15 minutes or so.
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Old November 17th, 2007, 02:20 AM   #94
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The southern end of the B line doesn't really work like a metro, we only get a train every 15 minutes or so.
Of course due it is due at the low density (It is like the London tube) but in inner suburbs it is 2-3 minutes.

But where you live in les Ulis.
In Massy - Palaiseau station, it should be around 5-6 minutes, exept if you live closer to Bures-sur-Yvette or Orsay stations.
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Old November 21st, 2007, 10:39 PM   #95
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Suburban train of saint Lazare network

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Old November 23rd, 2007, 02:33 AM   #96
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Transilien?
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Yo si la ciudad no tiene metro, como que no es gran ciudad y entonces ya paso de vivir allí. Norreport+12000
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Old November 23rd, 2007, 10:28 AM   #97
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The Transilien is the brand name for railway services of the SNCF-owned railway network operating within Paris' Île-de-France région. "Transilien" is a derivative of "Francilien", a term commonly used to describe the inhabitants of the Île-de-France région.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transilien
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Old November 24th, 2007, 06:28 AM   #98
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I knew the meaning of Francilien and Transilien because I lived in Paris, merci!

I was asking if the train in the video was a Transilien train to Saint Lazare.
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Old November 25th, 2007, 10:51 AM   #99
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Yes it is.
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I was asking if the train in the video was a Transilien train to Saint Lazare.
Why it could not be a Transilien ?
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