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Old April 2nd, 2017, 03:56 PM   #1121
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Thanks. I visited that and other pages. When you are going to buy tickets they say if it wonders, just for that trip, to buy a card and they said me it worthed for not so much money, but worthed.... but (and confirmed by company) not possible to buy on internet with an out of France address.
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Old April 2nd, 2017, 04:51 PM   #1122
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(and confirmed by company)
So you called them (I was about to tell you to do so)..

That said, may I suggest you (if of course I correctly understood your issue) to insist, because generally (I'm serious, I mean this is France/French customer services) when you "yell at them"...then, mysteriously, "everything" becomes possible. (again, this is France)...anyway, you have nothing to lose in trying that way...

...And trust me, it works!
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Old April 2nd, 2017, 11:41 PM   #1123
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Well... tickets are already bought and payed. I contacted them via internet and assured that could be bought only on stations or by internet if living in France. What I do not understand is why they ask the country and do not let to change it... Write it as default and enough.

Question now is if it possible to buy a Enfant+ card and change 8 tickets with it in a station, prior to take first train.
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Old April 15th, 2017, 02:03 PM   #1124
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Rennes station in 2015 and 2017 - before/today :





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The brittany high-speed rail will open in july : Paris < > Rennes 1:25 / Paris < > Brest 3:30 (a reduction of 45 mins).
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Old April 16th, 2017, 09:21 PM   #1125
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I took the Pau-Paris-Pau TGV and I have some questions...

- Since when did they call at Orthez?. I though it wasn't called by TGV
- Border-St.Sebastian is now under works. TGV said all stations until Hendaye. Do they go until Irun or only until Hendaye? (they were joined till Dax)

Perfect on going, 10 minutes delayed on back
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Old April 19th, 2017, 01:13 AM   #1126
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Second part of my trip to Paris. Unfortunately there was a heavy fog about.


6468 Pont Cardinet 20 February 2017


827357 Pont Cardinet 20 February 2017


515060 Pont Cardinet 20 February 2017


115053 Pont Cardinet 20 February 2017


565 Paris Saint-Lazare 18 February 2017


115053 Paris Saint-Lazare 18 February 2017


23016 & 84515 Gare du Nord 20 February 2017


215045 Gare du Nord 20 February 2017


22333 Gare du Nord 20 February 2017


20875 Villeneuve St Georges 20 February 2017


522238 Villeneuve St Georges 20 February 2017

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Old May 23rd, 2017, 01:26 PM   #1127
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Le petit train à crémaillère à Rhune




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Old June 5th, 2017, 04:28 PM   #1128
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I'm not sure I understand this argument, can someone help?

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"La fusion des régions permet déjà de faire des économies", affirme le président LR de l'association Régions de France Philippe Richert. Et les chiffres l'attestent. Les régions dépensent moins qu'avant, et cela s'observe notamment sur les trains régionaux. Il faut rappeler que le prix du billet ne couvre qu'1/4 seulement des dépenses. Le reste est payé par la région. Mais comme le contrat négocié avec la SNCF couvre désormais un territoire bien plus vaste, les grandes régions ont aujourd'hui plus de poids pour négocier de meilleurs tarifs. Par exemple en Occitanie, l'économie réalisée est estimée à 260 millions d'euros, quant à la région Grand Est, elle devrait se situer aux alentours de 350 millions d'euros sur 5 ans, ce qui représente une baisse d'environ 10% de la facture, alors que l'on compte 200 trains de plus sur les rails.
http://www.rtl.fr/actu/societe-faits...ies-7788780795

It says that the merging of regions has helped make vast savings in railway costs, but from how I understand the explanation, it simply means that the new (and bigger) regions have renegotiated the level of subsidy for the regional railway networks (TER), so the regions now pay less and the operator, SNCF, pays more via ticket prices. Which I wouldn't call "savings", just a different pocket from which to put out the taxpayers' money...
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Old June 12th, 2017, 09:42 AM   #1129
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Well, it doesn't say anything about the ticket prices except that 1/4 of the expenses are covered by the tickets, the rest is paid by the regions.

For the rest, it's basically what you've said : savings from bigger contracts.
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Old July 2nd, 2017, 01:56 PM   #1130
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New anamorphic maps of distances in France that take into account the new high speed lines innaugurated today, Bordeaux and Rennes):


https://twitter.com/ClaraSchmelck/st...65081329442816


https://twitter.com/AssoGrandParis/s...30853597229056
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Old July 2nd, 2017, 06:49 PM   #1131
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Next steps: speeding up to Toulouse and Nice. After that, well, not much is really left in order to keep all elephants coloured.
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Old July 2nd, 2017, 07:11 PM   #1132
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Today at the innauguration president Macron said he'll favour investment in improvement of everyday transport instead of new "grand projets", so that's tough luck for Toulouse and Nice :P

Kidding aside, isn't the extension of high speed service to Toulouse already in planning phase? That's what I seem to remember. Anyway, given the shortened time for Bordeaux, the time to reach Toulouse has shortened as well, there are now direct trains that reach it from Paris in four hours and seventeen minutes.

As for Nice, I don't know how much they can do anyway, given the tight montaneous geography. Five hours fourty minutes from Paris is already pretty good, three hours down to Marseille in high speed and then one hour and a half along the coastline.
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Old July 3rd, 2017, 12:29 AM   #1133
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Kidding aside, isn't the extension of high speed service to Toulouse already in planning phase? That's what I seem to remember.
The DUP status (declaration of public utility) of that project has been canceled a few days ago so it looks like that, as well as president Macron's statements about wanting to focus on the existing network, will throw everything up in the air.
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Old July 3rd, 2017, 12:42 AM   #1134
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Anyway, given the shortened time for Bordeaux, the time to reach Toulouse has shortened as well, there are now direct trains that reach it from Paris in four hours and seventeen minutes.
Well that didn't get off to a good start, the first such train had a 4 hour and a half delay today due to a technical incident with an intercity train on the same tracks...

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SNCF also have their own isochronic anamorphic maps which are really cool and detailed, and some have been published in a book:









https://twitter.com/M_Lafage/status/881108248065081344

Some better pics would be great...

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Old July 4th, 2017, 12:49 AM   #1135
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As for Nice, I don't know how much they can do anyway, given the tight montaneous geography. Five hours fourty minutes from Paris is already pretty good, three hours down to Marseille in high speed and then one hour and a half along the coastline.
Aside from the pure time gain, they should build this line so TGV's can move to the new line and TER-trains would be more punctual on the coastal line. Today, one hiccup on the line (bomb attacks, broken down trains, ..) immediately disrupts or severely delays all trains.

With the new line, at least TGV's and some fast regional services (like the present TER-IC's) will still be running if there are problems on the classic line.
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Next steps: speeding up to Toulouse and Nice. After that, well, not much is really left in order to keep all elephants coloured.
Nope: the next steps are Montpellier, Perpignan and Barcelona, as the new line Nimes-Montpellier will open very soon too.

In July 2018, if all goes well. But only at a top speed of 220km/h, travel times will be cut by 20min until ETCS-2 is installed.
When ETCS-2 were installed, then top speed will be 300km/h, saving even more time.

In fact, I think that map already puts Barcelona-Paris under 6 hours, so I guess they already updated it.

Once it opens, Paris-Barcelona will have an almost equal travel time as Paris-Nice.
Which will probably mean Barcelona overtaking Nice in travel time once ETCS-2 entered service.
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The LGV to Montpellier opens in July 2018?
Wasn't it supposed to be Dec. 2017?

When did they announce this delay?
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It's a shame that Nice gets so left out from all new railway construction. If it gets faster to get to say Barcelona from most of France by rail I wouldn't discard the possibility some of the tourists going to Côte d´Azur would go to Catalonia instead. Maybe all the rentiers on the French riviera don't care about future and faster rail as they already have it quite well?


The ideal for Nice would IMO be a HSR Marseilles-Toulon-Nice-Turin (a tunnel from Nice to Cueno on the way to Turin would be about 55-65kms of length, which is a long stretch but almost equal to other base tunnels currently under construction). Functionaly executed you could have HSR trains in 250 km/h from Marseilles to Milan (~400-450 kms with all new tunnels) in 2-3hrs. Nothern Italy would get great connections by rail to the Iberian peninsula and vice versa this way, and Nice would get a great connection to its former capital in less than an hour (today there are just the slow railway and equally small highway across Tende, hence very few day trips ).
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It's a shame that Nice gets so left out from all new railway construction.
More than a shame, it's just that it's very, very expensive, and not easy at all.
The Côte d'Azur is overbuilt, so the only realistic option is building the new line through very long and expensive tunnels.

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If it gets faster to get to say Barcelona from most of France by rail I wouldn't discard the possibility some of the tourists going to Côte d´Azur would go to Catalonia instead.
Oh, but they already come.

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The ideal for Nice would IMO be a HSR Marseilles-Toulon-Nice-Turin (a tunnel from Nice to Cueno on the way to Turin would be about 55-65kms of length, which is a long stretch but almost equal to other base tunnels currently under construction).
Man, er... Have you ever travelled by train fro Nice to Cuneo?

That's the Alps. It wouldn't be cheaper than Lyon-Turin. At all.

It's easier to build the shorter, cheaper Montgenèvre tunnel between Briançon and Oulx, which by the way is the historical route from Spain to Italy, not the coastal one.
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The LGV to Montpellier opens in July 2018?
Wasn't it supposed to be Dec. 2017?

When did they announce this delay?
I saw it at the French Wikipedia, so unless it's not updated I trust it.

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[...] La construction de la ligne, qui permettra de relier Montpellier à Paris en 3 heures 05, a débuté fin 2013, pour une mise en service à vitesse réduite de 220 km/h prévue le 8 juillet 2018. [...]
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