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Old November 25th, 2007, 04:34 PM   #101
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It could be an intercity train, corail.
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Old November 25th, 2007, 08:33 PM   #102
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It could be an intercity train, corail.
No, because the train drives too close to the platforms of the station "Clichy-Levallois" to be an intercity train...
In my opinion, this movie has been taken from an "old" VB2N car...
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Old November 28th, 2007, 11:28 PM   #103
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Saint Lazare suburban train

At Marly le Roi station
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Old November 29th, 2007, 12:27 AM   #104
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Old train...
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Old November 29th, 2007, 12:49 AM   #105
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Refurbished
So these are good and clean.
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Old November 29th, 2007, 11:58 AM   #106
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Oh no not an old car!!!

I don't know what is with some people on SSC, they seem to have a fixation with everything having to be modern, give me an Intercity 125 anyday over those bloody Pendolinionisios.
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Old November 29th, 2007, 02:02 PM   #107
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Oh no not an old car!!!

I don't know what is with some people on SSC, they seem to have a fixation with everything having to be modern, give me an Intercity 125 anyday over those bloody Pendolinionisios.
I meant old looking.

Nowadays, old trains cab be renovated and they look better than new ones.
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Old January 31st, 2008, 09:36 PM   #108
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Here is the Plan des zones tarifaires (Fare Zone Map of Greater Paris by the RATP) which includes the RER and Transilien (suburban train) network. Without getting too particular on what is what, both networks represent together the complete suburban/commuter train network that serves to connect Paris with the near and distant suburbs.

As probably mentioned before, the RER lines run from one end of Greater Paris to another, passing through the City-proper (Paris intra-muros) via underground tunnels or quasi-underground passages deeper than street-level grade (which I've seen on some of the branches of line C of the RER within Paris). This through-Paris service allows the RER to be used as an express line within Paris, especially since the RER offers various connections with the metro. Currently, the more recent E line of the RER terminates in Paris intra-muros and only runs in and out one end of it, but it still serves as an express service between the St-Lazare Station-Haussmann area and the Nord Station area.

The Transilien train network trains leave from intercity train stations, outbound to the near and far suburbs, some branches with service only to the far suburbs. This network ressembles more the suburban or commuter train network of most cities in the world. A few lines, like 3 of them, do not originate from a Paris intercity train station so only serve as suburb-to-suburb lines, such as the one departing from La Défense business district. Since you can only take a Transilien train within Paris intra-muros from 5 of the 6 Paris intercity train stations (except Pont Cadinet station which is just a Transilien station), many people who are not from the Paris region are not aware of the Transilien network. The RER network on the otherhand, has several stations throughout Paris intra-muros and appears as a connection/transfer from various metro stations.

Link in case no image appears below http://www.ratp.info/orienter/f_plan...artenaire=ratp
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Old January 31st, 2008, 09:48 PM   #109
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^ And here is a link to another map by the Paris RATP which also shows the RER and Transilien network in Greater Paris, but unlike the previous map, it also shows the métro, tram lines, and the TVM line in the south of Greater Paris (a very long bus line on a dedicated right-of-way lane). This map is also more of a geographic representation of the lines rathern than a schematic map.
Link: http://www.ratp.info/orienter/f_plan...secteur&fm=pdf
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Old February 2nd, 2008, 03:16 PM   #110
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Thanks.

Pont Cardinet station



Tis platform was used as a link between te RER C (Levallois Pereire station) and Pont Cardinet.
This link was closed in 1996 due at a low ridership.
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Old February 4th, 2008, 06:06 PM   #111
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FRANCE | Railway Photos

Great architecture and art leave a taste of the glory days of rail travel in Paris
20 January 2008
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The old steam engines that he painted, belching smoke into the Parisian sky, are, of course, long gone. But take an unusual sight-seeing tour of Paris’s Gare Saint-Lazare and you can picture the scene that the great Impressionist Claude Monet painted 131 years ago.

Monet became fascinated by trains. He filled 12 canvasses with Saint-Lazare, adhering to his philosophy of repetition of the same theme. To the outsider, this may seem curious but to Monet, different skies equalled different light equalled different colours.

Paris’s great old railway stations might seem an odd destination for the tourist. But they offer a beguiling mix of architectural splendour, a throbbing hub of humanity with all its attendant expressions and a veritable pot-pourri of historical connections.

A potential general knowledge quiz question is: how many stations are there in Paris? The general theory is six, but it is incorrect. First, the obvious ones …

Gare Saint-Lazare: Monet’s exquisite painting, smoke pouring into the blue sky from one locomotive entering the station and another leaving while another train stands silent in the station, is a classic. Pretty much the same building with its part glass roof covering the tracks exists today. Built in 1837 for the line from Paris to St Germain-en-Laye in the western suburbs, it was Paris’s first train station, re-built in 1843 by Alfred Armand and extended 10 years later. The present frontal building, with hotel attached, was erected in 1889. Here trains run to Normandy and Dieppe.

Gare d’Austerlitz: This is where trains leave for southwest France, Spain and Portugal. The station was named after the site of Napoleon’s great battle against Austro-Russian forces, in Austria, in 1805. It was first conceived in 1840 for the Orleans Company, but rebuilt from 1865-68. Its impressive steel and glass roof is largely screened.

Gare de l’Est: Built from 1847-1850, it was originally named the Gare de Strasbourg, its chief destination. Its name was changed in 1854 and a major extension with an east wing added from 1924-31. The main departure hall is today a sumptuous glass-roofed interior with impressive columns.

The German high-speed ICE trains run here from the eastern France-German border. On the front of the building are statues representing the cities of Strasbourg and Verdun, and a poignant painting, by Alfred Herter, hangs in the western-wing ticket hall depicting soldiers departing from the station for the front in 1914. There are representations of 32 important cities in eastern France decorating the access arcade.

Gare de Lyon: From here modern TGV trains whisk you to Marseille on the Mediterranean in exactly three hours. It was opened in splendour in 1900. Festooned in flags, the Impressionists have left us a vivid image of how it must have looked upon its opening.

The gem of the Gare de Lyon is Le Train Bleu restaurant on the floor above the station concourse. Here, in the Edwardian 1930s, travellers would lunch in elegance in a sprawling room decorated with 40 paintings, depicting destinations from the station, before boarding the overnight train south. The Mediterranean features prominently in the murals. Under the expert eye of architect Marius Toudoire, it took 30 artists to paint the room in Belle Epoque style. It is exactly the same today as when it first opened in 1901.

Gare du Nord: This is where you arrive on the Eurostar from London, the Thalys train from Brussels and the express train from Cologne and Amsterdam. Its origins date to 1846 but, just 11 years later, it was decided to build a station three times larger.

Construction, under German-born architect Jacques Hittorff, who also designed the Champs-Elysées garden and two fountains on the Place de la Concorde, began in 1861 and lasted five years.

A mix of neoclassicism and 19th-century new metal structures, one of its greatest sights is the nine statues that adorn the front of the building, with names of the most important destinations from the station.

Gare Montparnasse: This is beyond dispute the ugliest of Paris’s stations. It was built originally in 1840 but completely rebuilt after the Second World War. Yet it has one major claim to fame. In 1895, a locomotive and the first coach it was pulling, failed to stop and plunged off the track from the first floor of the station onto the street below.

Those are Paris’s six major stations, but there is another, the little known Gare de Bercy on the east side. Here, you can catch an overnight sleeper to Italy. Close to the station is a fascinating, renovated area that contains the location of the old wine distribution centre for Paris. In a modernised shopping street, you can go wine tasting: try Chai 33, for a good example.

Lastly, the station that is no more although the building has been splendidly revived – the Gare d’Orsay. It opened in 1900 to coincide with the Great Exhibition and was the first railway station in the world to have electric power. Until 1939, it was the terminus for destinations in southwest France but then was closed to long-distance traffic.

What sealed its fate were its short platforms in a modern era. Yet it was still used as a collection point for the despatch of parcels to prisoners in the Second World War and, after the war, as a reception centre for liberated prisoners.

Today, the old Gare d’Orsay is revived as the Musée D’Orsay, re-designed in 1977 and opened in 1986. It houses France’s finest collection of Impressionist paintings.

Suitably, on a floor high up that overlooks the Seine and the sumptuous city, you can see close up one of Monet’s beautiful paintings of La Gare Saint-Lazare.
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Gare Montparnasse: This is beyond dispute the ugliest of Paris’s stations. It was built originally in 1840 but completely rebuilt after the Second World War. Yet it has one major claim to fame. In 1895, a locomotive and the first coach it was pulling, failed to stop and plunged off the track from the first floor of the station onto the street below.
an old picture of the accident mentioned there...

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I live at 300 m from the "pont de l'Europe" (Europe bridge), from which you have a beautiful point of view of Gare Saint-Lazare.
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Old February 6th, 2008, 12:16 AM   #114
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They forget Pont Carndinet station, it is only a suburban rail station in Saint Lazare network.
Paris has 8 railway station if we exclud the RER and subway

Musee d'Orsay is always a train station. The station is just underground for the RER C but this line use the old tunnels of the old Orsay station.

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Interesting, pity no photos.
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They forget Pont Carndinet station, it is only a suburban rail station in Saint Lazare network.
Paris has 8 railway station if we exclud the RER and subway

Musee d'Orsay is always a train station. The station is just underground for the RER C but this line use the old tunnels of the old Orsay station.
Minato ku, don't over do it. This article is referring to intercity train stations (grandes lignes), which all 7 mentioned train stations are. If you want to add Pont Cadinet station then you are adding a station that is unlike the rest. Remember as a very young child in grade school how you had to circle the item that was out of place: banana, orange, egg, and apple...you had to circle the egg. Well no intercity train stops in Pont Cadinet to pick up people...you have to go to St-Lazare, because Pont Cadinet is only for suburban trains. And Musée d'Orsay may still use its underground tunnels for the RER but without any intercity trains running through the same underground tracks it can't be included in this list.
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Old March 28th, 2008, 10:16 PM   #118
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Suburban trains and light rails platforms.

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Thanks but there is a special thread for the RER, at least the RER A and B.

Gare Saint Lazare.

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