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Old July 29th, 2011, 07:28 PM   #41
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I always believed that GB drivers have good lane discipline compared to the US for example.
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Old July 29th, 2011, 09:06 PM   #42
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Better than the US, but bad by European standards
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Old July 30th, 2011, 04:59 AM   #43
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You know, I really hate generalizations and try to avoid making them myself - otherwise I'd have said this days ago, but I was in Ohio (Columbus and Cincinnati and the highways around and between them) last weekend, and...well, let's just say the unawareness of what left lanes are for was noticeably worse than I'm used to in the Northeast.
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Old July 30th, 2011, 11:52 PM   #44
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On the A4/E40 you sometimes get to your destination quicker by sitting on the inside lane(s) and passing on the illegal side when there are no lorries about. Same goes for the M1, M25 and M6.
In Poland it's legal to overtake on right side on motorway.
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Old July 30th, 2011, 11:55 PM   #45
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Great! Discouraging lane discipline is nothing to be proud of!
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Old July 31st, 2011, 12:13 AM   #46
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In Spain is forbidden and can be reason of fine.

You must drive always in the left lane and only use right one for overtaking. If a lot of traffic... left ones for less speed.
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Old July 31st, 2011, 01:55 AM   #47
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As of 1 July 2011 it's illegal to overtake on the right in Estonia.
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Old July 7th, 2013, 12:57 PM   #48
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Been hauling through Germany a lot in the last few months, and I can't help noticing that lane discipline in that country is getting from worse to worst. Why is that? What happened with those supposingly fast but disciplined Germans? I think the French are our new Germans. Far more disciplined.

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Old July 8th, 2013, 10:26 AM   #49
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In Slovakia we have problems with middle lane hoggers on three and more lane per direction roads. Since overtaking from the right is prohibited, you have to change the right lane to left lane through the middle lane and back what is not generally very safe. Otherwise you risk being fined. This goes not only for motorways, but also for any two-and-more-lane per one direction road.

There are only two exceptions - driving in built-up areas, where you can use whatever lane you want and need (for turning reasons). But it is still considered as an act of politeness if you drive generally on right. The second exception is "the lane for the slow vehicles" in steep sections where heavy trucks may have problems with accelerations. But basically we are talking about very short sections.

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Old July 8th, 2013, 10:29 AM   #50
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Britain has notorious middle lane hoggers, and even lane three hoggers for that matter, but they've recently started cracking down on that now and made it an offence with heavy fines if caught.
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I'm so happy Autostrade per l'Italia is building third lane on A14, since I will be the only one using it...
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Old July 8th, 2013, 10:42 AM   #52
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If you want to go fast between Bologna and Modena, you best stick with lane 1 and 2.
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Old July 8th, 2013, 10:46 AM   #53
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If you want to go fast between Bologna and Modena, you best stick with lane 1 and 2.
I know that well. Fortunately in Italy, as in Poland, passing on the right is possible. They must have understood that zigzagging from lane 1 to lane 4 and back again is more dangerous than staying in your own lane and passing hogging morons on their right.
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Britain has notorious middle lane hoggers, and even lane three hoggers for that matter, but they've recently started cracking down on that now and made it an offence with heavy fines if caught.
Have you ever seen police punishing the hoggers? Becasue, In my opinion, they make driving on motorway more dangerous than "the speeders".
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Have you ever seen police punishing the hoggers? Becasue, In my opinion, they make driving on motorway more dangerous than "the speeders".
Nah, just heard rumours...
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I'm so happy Autostrade per l'Italia is building third lane on A14, since I will be the only one using it...
You will have your own personal motorway lane
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Old July 8th, 2013, 12:33 PM   #57
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I know that well. Fortunately in Italy, as in Poland, passing on the right is possible. They must have understood that zigzagging from lane 1 to lane 4 and back again is more dangerous than staying in your own lane and passing hogging morons on their right.
?? since when?? so passing on the right is legal?
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?? since when?? so passing on the right is legal?
I take you can read Italian:
http://www.ilsole24ore.com/art/finan...o-064001.shtml
http://www.polizialocalebg.it/Serviz...s/Default.aspx

Apparently since at least 1991.
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Old July 8th, 2013, 01:13 PM   #59
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reading Italian is one thing, but reading law in Italian is something else can you find here the exact article where it writes about this?

http://www.aci.it/i-servizi/normativ...la-strada.html
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Old July 8th, 2013, 01:21 PM   #60
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reading Italian is one thing, but reading law in Italian is something else
You're right

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can you find here the exact article where it writes about this?

http://www.aci.it/i-servizi/normativ...la-strada.html
No, because it's not an article from Codice della Strada but a verdict from Court of Cassation and an internal rule of Road Police.

The verdict states:
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"Nel caso di carreggiata divisa in pi¨ corsie per ogni senso di marcia, non sussiste sorpasso in senso tecnico-giuridico, ai sensi dell'art. 106 c.s., quando due veicoli marcianti in corsie parallele si sopravanzino l'un l'altro restando ciascuno nella propria corsia. In questa ipotesi mancano, infatti, gli elementi costitutivi della manovra di sorpasso, la quale consta di due spostamenti dei veicoli dalla direttiva di marcia, di cui uno, temporaneo, verso sinistra per superare il veicolo che precede e l'altro, conclusivo, verso destra, per effettuare il rientro nella propria mano".
Basically, on a multi-laned one-way carriageway, technically speaking two vehicles going at different speeds, each in its own lane, do not overtake each other. An overtake is made up of two other maneouvres, temporary going from one lane to another and then going back.

So, technically, passing a slow vehicle on its right while staying in your own lane is not an overtake and won't be subject to overtaking rules.
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