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Old June 6th, 2012, 02:32 AM   #261
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When roads have 50 km/h speed limit or less, they're shorter.
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Old June 6th, 2012, 06:31 AM   #262
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Excatly: 3m long with 1m gap.
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Old June 8th, 2012, 03:46 AM   #263
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nice info, didnt know these numbers
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Old June 15th, 2012, 02:33 AM   #264
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ADCS, I also believe that yellow line is better than white. That is why it is interesting for me how the DOT will explain why they are switching to white. Saving money is the only logical explanation to that...

Other countries were not born metric, they all switched at some point.
I'm also for the yellow lines. When they did the switch here in Australia in the mid to late 80's, that was the main argument, saving money.

As for the metric, Australia went through that change, starting in 1970. The road MPH signs were converted in 1974.

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In some countries (mostly developing countries), they use yellow lines for the edge markings. Is this some bad rip-off where they didn't understood what the American yellow markings mean, or does it have some other kind of meaning?
Nothing to do with misunderstanding the US markings. What about the "non-developing" countries then, what's the meaning there?

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in fact , yellow is better
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using only white is very confusing
That photo is from Sydney, NSW, Australia.

I agree that using only white is confusing. If you look carefully, you'll notice that the 'lane lines' are shorter and thinner than the 'dividing (separation) lines' only when used in multi lane configuration. In single lane configuration (one way each way) the 'lane lines' and the 'dividing (separation) lines' are the same size (the thinner ones). It is very rare to find the thicker and longer 'dividing (separation) lines' on single lane (each way) roads.

The 'lane lines' or standard 'dividing (separation) lines' are 3m long, 100mm wide, with 9m gaps. The thicker lines are 9m long, 150mm wide, with 3m gaps. These thick dividing lines were used even when we had the centre yellow continuous lines. White dashed lines were still used on road centres for allowing overtaking.

It's a bit easier to tell on the road as the road reflectors are more visible. The 'lane lines' have a white reflector immediately in front of them (now that's also changing where all the reflectors will be positioned in the centre of the gap between the dashes), whereas the 'dividing (separation) lines' have a yellow reflector positioned between the dashes.

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The problem in that picture (in my opinion) is not the fact that the edge line's yellow but that it's dashed. Rather, it would be a problem if it were dashed white like the lines between lanes are - you need to be able to tell the difference in poor visibility conditions between the edge of the road and a crossable lane marking. A solid line of either color would be enough there, I think.
You're right, except that the yellow dashed lines are not an edge line there and on many metropolitan roads, the edge lines aren't used. Those yellow dashes indicate 'clearway' specific times (peak) when you can't park.

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That photo looks like a street in New Zealand. Dashed yellow lines are a parking control there rather than the marking for the edge of the road. Roads there are marked with a white edge like most countries.
NZ and AUS are very similar in many ways, LOL. Even the road markings are the same except that we changed the centre solids to white and you guys kept yours unchanged.

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It's Australia (New South Wales) on a road with clearway (the broken yellow shoulder markings)
Can't miss the Aussie Ford Falcon, LOL.

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Looks like their usage is similar to either NZ or Australia (not sure which or both) - they use a dashed white line in the same situation that America uses a dashed yellow line, but both use a solid yellow line the same way.
Yes, Sweden and Finland seem like they use the same methods as in NZ and AUS (prior to the changeover in mid 80's).

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You're right and it's only New Zealand.
Currently, yes.

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I get the idea some Asian countries want to copy the "American" yellow road markings, but don't understand the concept, so they just paint some markings yellow and the others white. Sometimes the outer marking, sometimes the inner markings, etc.
C'mon. I get the feeling of the "western superiority complex" towards the Asian/third world/developing/uncivilised countries. Get over it.

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Old June 20th, 2012, 05:53 PM   #265
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As highways in Norway slowly begin the change:










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Old June 20th, 2012, 08:24 PM   #266
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why r they changing?
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Old June 20th, 2012, 08:40 PM   #267
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why r they changing?
They need to know which side of the road is the right one and which one is the left one. They forgot the old golden rule: The right leg is the one having the big toe on the left.

Next year, the concept will be extended to the 1+1 roads: The left side of the road will be yellow and the right one white.
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Old June 20th, 2012, 09:40 PM   #268
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As highways in Norway slowly begin the change:
Looks ugly.
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Old June 20th, 2012, 09:51 PM   #269
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Looks ugly.
I dont think so.

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Old June 20th, 2012, 09:54 PM   #270
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Looks ugly.
agreed. it looks 20 years old...
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Old June 20th, 2012, 10:21 PM   #271
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agreed. it looks 20 years old...




IMO Yellow line is most beautiful than white line.

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White line is so monotous.
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Old June 21st, 2012, 12:36 AM   #272
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Don't really see what's so wrong about it, all our roads with centrelines have them, why not highways too? Certainly brings more unity to our existing road system.
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Old June 21st, 2012, 12:57 AM   #273
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or you can convert to all white....
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Old June 21st, 2012, 09:42 AM   #274
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Or how about not?

In case you don't know, Norway gets a lot of snow each year, and though if the snow is thick enough to cover the entire roadway any marking doesn't really help, but it does help to see the centre of the road if there is a light cover of snow on it.








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Old June 21st, 2012, 11:24 AM   #275
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In Norway the yellow line has always been used to separate traffic moving in opposite directions, it is in our blood to have a yellow line to the left. For some reason this was never implemented on the motorways which always have been all white. Meanwhile; With the motorway"network" growing into places which never had motorways before A LOT of dangerous situations have occurred when (old) people not familiar with roads like this drives into the wrong carriageway. The yellow motorway left line (on ramps as well) is one way of trying to end this. The "Austrian hand" sign is another.
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Old June 21st, 2012, 11:43 AM   #276
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Until, say, 20-25 years ago in Italy central lines were white while side lines were yellow. I don't know why they changed them in an all-white scheme.
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Old June 21st, 2012, 12:40 PM   #277
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Then there's the also the fact that repainting the some 380 km of highways( motorways) that Norway has compared to the probably, several thousands of regular 2 lane, 3 lane ,and 4 lane roads, already with centrelines, is probably considerably less expensive, than doing it the other way. Then there's also the fact that yellow centrelines on a highway is less of a transition for Norwegians, than repainting our road network entirely...

Thinking logically might help at times.
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Old June 24th, 2012, 05:05 PM   #278
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Having been to East Norway now, still here for that matter. I got to see some highways, and it is kinda amusing, they are white for one stretch, then yellow, then white, then yellow, white again.

It's like you're in Europe, US, Europe again, into an American tunnel, Europe, US again, onto a European bridge, US again. XD
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Old June 29th, 2012, 05:38 AM   #279
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The only yellow line in Solo, ID. Separating main road and railway track.

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Old November 6th, 2012, 11:26 AM   #280
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However, we sometimes have a single solid line in combination with the warning line above (varsellinje) when the other direction has a crawl lane and the line of sight is sufficient for overtaking.
This is not the situation anymore. The government have removed this marking combination from our roads. They've removed this to improove safety, since there used to be alot of accidents on these roads.

Also they have started to put barriers on places where there is 2+1 roads and 90 km/h roads too improove safety.
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