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Old February 19th, 2015, 07:32 PM   #361
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Not all people in the Netherlands are Dutch.
A person who lives in the Netherlands is Dutch. A person who lives in the UK is British, a person who lives in Canada is Canadian. What do you mean?
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Old February 19th, 2015, 07:33 PM   #362
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I just think a different color to separate direction of traffic is a better option. That is all. It is like my preference for graphic drawing signs of road rules abundantly in use in Europe instead of US-style written signs. I think drivers react better to image patterns than having to read a written message when they have just 1-2 seconds to grab the message before distraction or avoidance quicks in.

This has nothing to do with intelligence, character or attributes of people living in a place or other.

Why do forumers on this sub-section have always to make the slightest disagreement into a mud fight and take diverging opinions on infrastructure as insults?

It's so annoying.

Some people prefer different colors, others prefer same colors, some thing country A, B or C should change their road signaling. We can all live with that, but the way some long-time forumers react give me the impression they take it as if people were suggesting sending an armed battalion to repaint road lanes at gunpoint.
Agree!!! That's what I said in previous threads too
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Old February 19th, 2015, 07:39 PM   #363
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A person who lives in the Netherlands is Dutch. A person who lives in the UK is British, a person who lives in Canada is Canadian. What do you mean?
I am both Dutch and British but live in Austria. You see what I mean? People emigrate.
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Old February 19th, 2015, 08:08 PM   #364
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All lanes were painted white prior to the 70s. Not sure in Canada though.
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Old February 19th, 2015, 09:06 PM   #365
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A person who lives in the Netherlands is Dutch. A person who lives in the UK is British, a person who lives in Canada is Canadian. What do you mean?
Actually, in the European Union (if I understand correctly), a citizen of one member state can live in any other as long as he or she wants without having to change citizenship. (Assuming they have a job and other such requirements.) May not even be allowed to change citizenship. So I'm sure there are plenty of people living permanently in the Netherlands who are not Dutch either by background or citizenship and wouldn't consider themselves Dutch.
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Old February 19th, 2015, 09:10 PM   #366
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I'm definitely not Austrian, even though God did say that if one person has sexual intercourse they become the same.
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Old February 19th, 2015, 09:10 PM   #367
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A person who lives in the Netherlands is Dutch. A person who lives in the UK is British, a person who lives in Canada is Canadian. What do you mean?
This one beats them all. Wow.
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Old February 19th, 2015, 09:11 PM   #368
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What was it like being German for a while?
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Old February 19th, 2015, 09:13 PM   #369
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You could ask that one of any Austrian over 70.

EDIT. Um, any Austrian over 70 who was actually in Austria 70 years ago. As opposed to any aging Anglo-Dutch-Austrian ski freaks of your acquaintance who may have been there since the Innsbruck Olympics.
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Old February 19th, 2015, 09:19 PM   #370
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You could ask that one of any Austrian over 70.

EDIT. Um, any Austrian over 70 who was actually in Austria 70 years ago. As opposed to any aging Anglo-Dutch-Austrian ski freaks of your acquaintance who may have been there since the Innsbruck Olympics.
Not me. I was still in the process of future-production at the time. We are going terribly off-topic but what else is there to say about these stinking dividing lines anyway apart from Canadian statements that they are super cool in North America.
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Old February 19th, 2015, 09:20 PM   #371
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Actually, in the European Union (if I understand correctly), a citizen of one member state can live in any other as long as he or she wants without having to change citizenship. (Assuming they have a job and other such requirements.) May not even be allowed to change citizenship. So I'm sure there are plenty of people living permanently in the Netherlands who are not Dutch either by background or citizenship and wouldn't consider themselves Dutch.
Even changing the citizenship does not necessarily hide your origin.

My late aunt emigrated to Sweden in the early 1950's, and lived for about 50 years as a citizen of Sweden. Even if almost all of her friends and business contacts were Swedish, she felt more a Finn than a Swede.
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Well, now we're getting philosophical*, but I'd say your aunt, as a Swedish citizen, had a right to be considered "Swedish," either in general or for purposes of exercising the rights of a citizen, such as voting. And a right not to be. (And saying "anyone who lives in Canada is Canadian" sounds less strange to me than it may to Europeans, even if it's not technically true because some people living in Canada aren't, or aren't yet, Canadian citizens. Because Canada, like the U.S., is full of people who came from elsewhere with the intention of becoming Canadian or American, and would resent being told, "no, you're not a Canadian because you weren't born here.")

*And even more off-topic, but at this point it's a drop in the bucket.
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Old February 19th, 2015, 09:43 PM   #373
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Another thread derailed...
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I just went along for the ride. Or maybe "careened" along, since we're talking about a derailment.

(You have no idea how many times today I've controlled myself. )
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Not me. I was still in the process of future-production at the time. We are going terribly off-topic but what else is there to say about these stinking dividing lines anyway apart from Canadian statements that they are super cool in North America.
Oh, those dividing lines. I thought you were talking about borders! It's hard to tell what thread you're on lately. But we've had plenty to say about these lines already, and long before Valentino was here.
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That's how they do it in Russia

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Finally a European who agrees with us! Wonder why Norway is the only smart European country though using yellow ? Anyone know the history behind that?
I tried to do a little bit of research on this, but was not successful. As far as I know, Norway has never had white center lines. This is a picture from the main street of Oslo in 1970, and before that there was mostly gravel in Norway ;-)


I believe there were more European countries with yellow center line before, I guess we just are more stubborn than the rest up here in here in the north + that we have more snow and hence yellow line makes sense for visibility.

(The road authorities btw have tried to switch a couple of times, lastly around 2000, but again had to pull back due to popular resentment. Since then yellow lines have also been introduced to divided highways / one way streets, where the left line used to be white in Norway.)
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