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Old April 28th, 2010, 05:33 AM   #121
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Old April 28th, 2010, 08:17 AM   #122
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I happened to drive there again 1.5 weeks ago:
This is in the other direction:
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Heh it is very similar to the Canadian/American simultaneous left-turn lane, I've never seen them in Europe. But I think in that NL case you can only turn from one direction?

In Canada/US they are used to turn from both directions (which does sometimes cause potentially dangerous conflicts when drivers from opposite directions enter the lane at the same time - but as long as you are careful they work well and I like them).

We also often use them to enter a very wide and busy road from a driveway, because you can enter it when there is no traffic coming from the left only, and then signal and wait until the right side of the road is clear (here, again, there is the danger of cars entering from the right side, so caution must be exercised).
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Old April 28th, 2010, 09:55 AM   #123
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Heh it is very similar to the Canadian/American simultaneous left-turn lane, I've never seen them in Europe. But I think in that NL case you can only turn from one direction?
It's on the N63 4-lane divided highway in Belgium. It is basically a left-turn lane for property access. Since properties are only to the right on that picture, using this lane would only make sense in one direction. It's the first time I've seen this in Europe as well.
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Old April 28th, 2010, 07:41 PM   #124
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In a lot of places in Ontario they will get rid of two lanes on a four lane road and put in a Centre left turn lane, especially on roads with lots of driveways
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Old April 29th, 2010, 02:12 AM   #125
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In a lot of places in Ontario they will get rid of two lanes on a four lane road and put in a Centre left turn lane, especially on roads with lots of driveways
There's a central left turn lane in the community of Cache Creek, an hour west of where I live. It's on HWY 1 in the south area of the town and is used so drivers can access several motels and a gas (petrol) station.
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Old April 29th, 2010, 09:02 PM   #126
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Not sure if this has been mentioned already, but New Zealand has an equivalent of a central turning lane.
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Old April 30th, 2010, 05:14 AM   #127
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Old April 30th, 2010, 06:13 PM   #128
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Old July 13th, 2010, 10:26 PM   #129
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In Iran it was yellow but it's changing to white
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Old July 16th, 2010, 09:46 AM   #130
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Old July 16th, 2010, 09:52 AM   #131
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In some countries (mostly developing countries), they use yellow lines for the edge markings. Is this some bad rip-off where they didn't understood what the American yellow markings mean, or does it have some other kind of meaning?
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Old July 16th, 2010, 04:42 PM   #132
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In some countries (mostly developing countries), they use yellow lines for the edge markings. Is this some bad rip-off where they didn't understood what the American yellow markings mean, or does it have some other kind of meaning?
I guess it's more important to them to avoid running off the road than to avoid hitting other traffic...? (Ireland does this)
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In the case of Ireland, it's exactly the same as the US - just the carriageways are on the opposite sides. Yellow on the left, white on the right - simple.

Seriously though it's almost certainly because it's more important to mark the edge of the road clearly, especially considering the quality of some of our (mostly minor) roads, many of which haven't been realigned since they were old country tracks.
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Israel also does this (yellow on the edge, white in the middle). As you said, that's exactly the reason - it is to clearly mark the edge of the road, which indeed IMO is more important than marking the centre line, especially at night on 2-lane country roads.

Technically I have no problem with a white line at the edge (I do like the yellow centre line here in NA), but I do have a problem with the edge lines not being drawn or being completely faded (as is the case on many country roads here in Canada). Driving on some of them at night is brutal.
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Israel also does this (yellow on the edge, white in the middle). As you said, that's exactly the reason - it is to clearly mark the edge of the road, which indeed IMO is more important than marking the centre line, especially at night on 2-lane country roads.

Technically I have no problem with a white line at the edge (I do like the yellow centre line here in NA), but I do have a problem with the edge lines not being drawn or being completely faded (as is the case on many country roads here in Canada). Driving on some of them at night is brutal.
Yup, in Virginia, roads either have no lines, a centerline, or center and edge lines. They never do as some European roads do and have only edge lines and no centerline.
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it is to clearly mark the edge of the road, which indeed IMO is more important than marking the centre line, especially at night on 2-lane country roads.
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It's kind of appalling that over-safety-conscious Netherlands uses no edge markings on the most dangerous roads (narrow ones with trees next to the roadway). Apparently, the idea of someone going 10 km over the limit is worse than someone hitting a tree dead on.

(Netherlands = speed nazi country).
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Heh what I like about NL is that all the lines that you do have on the roads are always clearly visible (at least from what I saw, both in photos and personally while being there). In Canada maintenance often can't keep up, and it's common to have many 2-lane roads in rural areas whose lines (especially the edge lines) are faded and sometimes almost completely invisible.

Also, the roads in Ontario (don't know about the rest of Canada) do not place those reflective posts at regular intervals at the edges of such country roads, something that is common in many European countries. They have a similar effect even if edge lines are not visible and there are no other devices like cat eyes.
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In some countries (mostly developing countries), they use yellow lines for the edge markings. Is this some bad rip-off where they didn't understood what the American yellow markings mean, or does it have some other kind of meaning?
i don't see a reason why wouldn't it be yellow. the same as some countries (lead by France) use dashed line for the edges (and I will never adapt on that). i actually liked when we had yellow edge markings till 2001.
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Israel also does this (yellow on the edge, white in the middle). As you said, that's exactly the reason - it is to clearly mark the edge of the road, which indeed IMO is more important than marking the centre line, especially at night on 2-lane country roads.
I read that Israel is going over to white edge lines to conform to some standard or other.

I don't know when this is supposed to happen but apparently we have a few more years of yellow lines.

Personally I'm not bothered either way. I've never had any trouble working out which side is the outer edge of the road, whatever colour it is.
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Oh really? That's news to me. I think that's unfortunate, since those yellow edge lines did provide better emphasis and visibility at night. Like you say, it is not necessary, but it's a nice feature. But as long as the lines are maintained and always visible, it doesn't matter as much what colour is used. Is Israel trying to follow the Geneva Convention more precisely?
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