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Old February 9th, 2011, 12:24 AM   #161
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Looks like their usage is similar to either NZ or Australia (not sure which or both) - they use a dashed white line in the same situation that America uses a dashed yellow line, but both use a solid yellow line the same way.
You're right and it's only New Zealand.
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Old February 9th, 2011, 04:30 AM   #162
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the problem isn't the continuous white line but discontinuous white lines that can be confused with a road of the same way.


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Old February 9th, 2011, 01:07 PM   #163
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Sweden use white lines as central divider and for traffic in the same direction. Something that is different though is the edge line on 2-lane roads which is doted or whatever you call it.

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Old February 9th, 2011, 01:52 PM   #164
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Finland uses yellow divider lines too. From what I can tell, it's not used in exactly the same way as in Norway; on Street View I've seen only yellow, only white or a combination so I don't know if it's being phased out or phased in or if there are other reasons.

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Broken white which turns into broken white + longer broken yellows, then solid yellow + broken white and finally double yellow

Maybe the logic is: White - can be crossed, yellow - thou shan't cross this line?
Exactly.
Double yellow - overtaking forbidden from both directions.

Broken white + yellow - overtaking allowed from the side of the boken white.

Broken yellow (+ yellow or broken white next to it) - zone where overtaking is forbidden is about to start so return to your lane / don't start overtaking.

If overtaking is allowed from both directions there is only a single broken white line.

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Old February 9th, 2011, 02:04 PM   #165
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Something that is different though is the edge line on 2-lane roads which is doted or whatever you call it.
You can find that in several countries, including Norway, the Netherlands and France. In my opinion, it is a poor attempt at traffic calming. Solid edge markings are much more better in accentuating the road alignment ahead, especially in the dark. Plus, it conflicts with the logics of road markings.
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Old February 9th, 2011, 06:11 PM   #166
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Estonia uses both solid and broken side markings irrespective of how wide the road is. In both cases the side markings can be crossed. However, it tends to be so that major highways have solid lines and smaller roads have broken lines. The latter solution is cheaper, although personally I prefer the solid lines for the reasons Chris already mentioned.
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Old February 9th, 2011, 07:19 PM   #167
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Canada has solid side stripes. They simply mark the edge of the traffic lane/shoulder. The technical term is "fog line" The center line has been yellow since the early 70s. Prior to this, the colors were reversed. White center line, yellow fog lines.
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Old February 9th, 2011, 08:06 PM   #168
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Ireland always uses broken side markings, except for motorway roads. I don't know why given the almost universal standard of a solid white boundary in Europe but it always seemed to be that way as far as I can remember
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Old February 9th, 2011, 08:39 PM   #169
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You can find that in several countries, including Norway, the Netherlands and France. In my opinion, it is a poor attempt at traffic calming. Solid edge markings are much more better in accentuating the road alignment ahead, especially in the dark. Plus, it conflicts with the logics of road markings.
On the contrary, I find them more logical and much more pleasing to look at. I don't like them on motorways, like in France, but on rural roads I think they both function well and look better.
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Old February 9th, 2011, 08:53 PM   #170
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They have those in Spain too (I think), but not in Portugal nor in the UK
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Old February 9th, 2011, 09:50 PM   #171
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Has anyone mentioned the fact that Norway uses yellow line markings for the center of its roads? Anyone know if Sweden or the other Nordic countries do the same or not? In fact, does anyone have a list that actually says which European countries have white line markings in the centre of the roads and which ones have yellow? It would be interesting to see.
No. As far as I'm aware, Norway is unique in Europe for using exclusively yellow lines for contraflow markings. It's not relative to the rest of Scandinavia, as there is no common standards amongst these countries on this subject. Only Sweden & Finland seem to have any road sign/marking kinship; seemingly from the latter modelling its own standards on the former. These countries use a yellow line only when it's a solid overtaking line. For broken lines & lines marking medians, it's white.
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Old February 9th, 2011, 10:18 PM   #172
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On the contrary, I find them more logical and much more pleasing to look at.
I don't think they are logical. Broken markings indicate it is suitable for passing, which soft shoulders obviously aren't.
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Old February 9th, 2011, 11:24 PM   #173
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No. As far as I'm aware, Norway is unique in Europe for using exclusively yellow lines for contraflow markings. It's not relative to the rest of Scandinavia, as there is no common standards amongst these countries on this subject. Only Sweden & Finland seem to have any road sign/marking kinship; seemingly from the latter modelling its own standards on the former. These countries use a yellow line only when it's a solid overtaking line. For broken lines & lines marking medians, it's white.
I think that Sweden always uses white, and that they used yellow for all markings before they changed the side of the road.
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Old February 10th, 2011, 06:43 AM   #174
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the problem isn't the continuous white line but discontinuous white lines that can be confused with a road of the same way.
I guess they're just making sure that you always drive in the right-hand outer lane except when overtaking. Almost nobody (myself included) drives like that in the States - if there's more room to drive in the left inner lane, that's where I'll be. (Also related to which way I'll be turning, or if I know a lane ends ahead, regardless of how far away the turn or end of the lane is) - I've never been in the situation where I don't know if I'm driving on a one- or two-way road (yellow centerline FTW!) but I'd guess if I'm not sure I'd stick to the right. (Or whichever side of the road you typically drive on, so left in NZ)

Also worth mentioning is that in addition to the centerlines, when your side of the road changes from "passing allowed" to "not", this sign is placed on the left shoulder to tell you to get back on your side of the road, with the unusual triangle shape intended to simulate an arrow pointing to the right, as if to say "move right". (I think they're usually mounted on a single post in Virginia but apparently it's typical to use two elsewhere)
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Old February 12th, 2011, 04:20 AM   #175
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In Brazil you have yellow in the middle and Yellow for no parking.




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Old February 15th, 2011, 04:33 AM   #176
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in chile we use both divider lines.

the white one is used in almost all roads and highways crossing the country

the yellow is used in roads placed in snowy places. Esentially in andes mountains and aysen or magallanes regions (the southernmost ones).
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Old February 17th, 2011, 07:14 PM   #177
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The dashed white divider on ruralroads in Europe seem just unsafe.
Would I want it to change though? No. I like that different countries use different traffic practices. The world would grow more towards boring if everything looked the same no matter where you traveled.
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Old February 17th, 2011, 10:41 PM   #178
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In Italy we have solid white lines at the side of the road and a broken white line in the middle.

Solid line in the middle means "overtaking forbidden" and "U-turn forbidden". Sometimes this line is double to strenghten the meaning.

In the middle of some roads you can find a mix of one solid and one broken line. This means that overtaking is allowed only to cars that are in the side in which there is broken line!
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Old February 17th, 2011, 10:44 PM   #179
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In the middle of some roads you can find a mix of one solid and one broken line. This means that overtaking is allowed only to cars that are in the side in which there is broken line!
We used to have this in the Netherlands. However, since the ridiculousization of the road network began in the late 1990's nearly all roads, no matter how wide, straight or safe they are received a permanent passing ban because they don't think motorists should have the freedom to judge whether passing is safe or not.
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Old February 17th, 2011, 10:55 PM   #180
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We used to have this in the Netherlands. However, since the ridiculousization of the road network began in the late 1990's nearly all roads, no matter how wide, straight or safe they are received a permanent passing ban because they don't think motorists should have the freedom to judge whether passing is safe or not.


I am a newbie on SSC so I had not so many occasions to read previous topics (SSC is the biggest forum I ever seen).

Why ridiculousization? What happened in the Netherlands's roads in the last years?
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