BREMEN - Weserstadion (42,500) - Page 15

MrYoung · January 15th, 2011, 01:45 PM

For me the worst part is the existing stands with the old concrete beams used to hold up the new roof. It just looks so incredibly ugly. Perhaps if they could cover them with cladding it would look better.

Werkself · January 16th, 2011, 02:37 PM

I will never get why architects are trying to make a tracked stadium to a football ground with brute force. You need to tear down the stands, there is no other way around it.

Weserstadion is the best example for a ugly transformation. Yack.

OldWorldResident · January 17th, 2011, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrYoung

For me the worst part is the existing stands with the old concrete beams used to hold up the new roof. It just looks so incredibly ugly. Perhaps if they could cover them with cladding it would look better.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Werkself

I will never get why architects are trying to make a tracked stadium to a football ground with brute force. You need to tear down the stands, there is no other way around it.

Weserstadion is the best example for a ugly transformation. Yack.

The Weserstadion has an almost 100 year old tradition. Its location is unique. You can't tear down something like that and build it somewhere else. Renovation was the only possibility here.

Considering that they were not allowed to extend the ground of the stadium meaning that they were not able to build additional external coloumns and considering that the club had to pay every cent of the bill (74 million Euro) they did a great job.
I hope that (one day) they find a (cheap) way to cover the concrete beams with some cladding too. Beside that there's really not much to criticize.

All these tear-it-down-comments are either stupid or ignorant.

NesC · January 17th, 2011, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldWorldResident

The Weserstadion has an almost 100 year old tradition. Its location is unique. You can't tear down something like that and build it somewhere else. Renovation was the only possibility here.

Considering that they were not allowed to extend the ground of the stadium meaning that they were not able to build additional external coloumns and considering that the club had to pay every cent of the bill (74 million Euro) they did a great job.
I hope that (one day) they find a (cheap) way to cover the concrete beams with some cladding too. Beside that there's really not much to criticize.

All these tear-it-down-comments are either stupid or ignorant.

At the end of the day a stadiums most important job is not to look good. This renovation has improved the stadium a lot for the spectators although the design had to suffer from it.

pamirez · January 22nd, 2011, 02:02 PM

Update:

www.weserstadion.de

Curva Nord · January 22nd, 2011, 04:51 PM

Stadium borned old, IMHO.

Google1998 · January 23rd, 2011, 12:39 AM

bad decision to renovate this stadium... old stadium, it should have been demolished and a new one instead of it! no offence

it might look well after the renovation but in time, an old stadium remains old.

still, maybe they dont have enough money...

Werkself · January 23rd, 2011, 11:34 AM

No real terracing? Only those shitty flip-up seats?

Will the ugly lightpoles remain? The last night matches I saw, the pitch lighting was very unregular.

Capital78 · January 23rd, 2011, 11:53 AM

Doesn't look fine to me. Actually it's quite awful, but this was a decission due to financial reasons. Still, Bremen missed a great possibility to built a new stadium. Pitty.

pamirez · January 23rd, 2011, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Werkself

No real terracing? Only those shitty flip-up seats?

Will the ugly lightpoles remain? The last night matches I saw, the pitch lighting was very unregular.

otherwise it would be more complicated to change to euro setup

Axelferis · January 23rd, 2011, 12:46 PM

anyway it is better than before

Werkself · January 24th, 2011, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by pamirez

otherwise it would be more complicated to change to euro setup

Yes, but normally the fans go beserk if they dont get their terracing.

Marin Mostar · January 24th, 2011, 02:31 PM

Old one was definetly nicer and more elegant. This new one, or should I say reconstructed is beter. The fans are closer, SF roof

, it has much more space under the tribunes for shops etc. witch means more money for the club.
Conclusion; Better but uglyer stadium.

na69 · January 25th, 2011, 02:00 PM

Hello everybody,

I have some questions about the Werder project. If there is specialists of the club and they could answer me, it will be fantastic

- What was the cost of the stadium ?
- How long did the stadium building (renovation) run?
- What were the different steps of the building?

- What was the impact of the stadium building on the different public attending the game (fans groups, other fans, partners, business seats clients etc)? How the stadium building was appreciated by these publics?
- Today, are there problems with the public (tickets prices, stadium accesibility because of the building for example)?

- What was the communication strategy worked up by the club?
- What was the communication worked up during the building period concerning the building (creation of website/blog allowing people to look at the building progress etc)?
- What communication did the club work up when the building was finished?

- What were the tools the club chose for club communication (website, interviews of players or club rulers, radio, press, posters etc.)?
- What were the points the club focused on when they were communicating on the stadium (architecture, finances, sponsors, etc.)?

Thank you for your cooperation !!!
Sorry for my poor english.

delsa · January 25th, 2011, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by na69

Hello everybody,

I have some questions about the Werder project. If there is specialists of the club and they could answer me, it will be fantastic

- What was the cost of the stadium ?
- How long did the stadium building (renovation) run?
- What were the different steps of the building?

- What was the impact of the stadium building on the different public attending the game (fans groups, other fans, partners, business seats clients etc)? How the stadium building was appreciated by these publics?
- Today, are there problems with the public (tickets prices, stadium accesibility because of the building for example)?

- What was the communication strategy worked up by the club?
- What was the communication worked up during the building period concerning the building (creation of website/blog allowing people to look at the building progress etc)?
- What communication did the club work up when the building was finished?

- What were the tools the club chose for club communication (website, interviews of players or club rulers, radio, press, posters etc.)?
- What were the points the club focused on when they were communicating on the stadium (architecture, finances, sponsors, etc.)?

Thank you for your cooperation !!!
Sorry for my poor english.

just few questions

Alemanniafan · January 25th, 2011, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pamirez

otherwise it would be more complicated to change to euro setup

That's probably not the reason. a conversion is easy and regularly done elsewhere in the Bundesliga.
I suppose it's a question of emergency regulations. That the evacuation times in case of an emergency would not have been quick enough or things like that.

Well whatever it may be, the most likely reason is probably that the clubs officials and the architects and planners didn't put much of a focus on common terracing-fans desires and wishes, but mostly on the clubs VIP guests instead. And that they therefore didn't put much effort into finding a solution to create a "real" terracing area.

na69 · January 29th, 2011, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by delsa

just few questions

Yeah i know but I am very interesting on public reaction when their stadium are in build

Someone know What was the impact of the stadium building on the different public attending the game (fans groups, other fans, partners, business seats clients etc)? How the stadium building was appreciated by these publics?

What did the club do to communicate on them ?

StoneRose · January 30th, 2011, 09:11 PM

I think you'd get more answers at the official Werder forum tbh.

imbee · February 6th, 2011, 06:44 PM

I like this project. they made the best of their situation

OldWorldResident · February 6th, 2011, 09:23 PM

- What was the cost of the stadium ?

76,25 million Euro

- How long did the stadium building (renovation) run?
- What were the different steps of the building?

09 / 2008: reconstruction in the north and south starts (new roof)
06 / 2009: reconstruction in the west starts (new stands and roof)
06 / 2010: reconstruction in the east starts (new stands and roof)

- What was the impact of the stadium building on the different public attending the game (fans groups, other fans, partners, business seats clients etc)? How the stadium building was appreciated by these publics?
- Today, are there problems with the public (tickets prices, stadium accesibility because of the building for example).

The ticket prices increased a lot during the last seasons, but the attendance didn't decrease. So although many people are not happy about the prices it's not really a big problem. The fan group "Faninitiative Weserstadion" demanded for more terracing, lower fences and other things. The club tried to respect those demands, but they couldn't come up with all of them due higher costs or different formalities. As one result the club expanded the terracing from 6500 to 7600 seats.

- What was the communication strategy worked up by the club?
- What was the communication worked up during the building period concerning the building (creation of website/blog allowing people to look at the building progress etc)?
- What communication did the club work up when the building was finished?
- What were the tools the club chose for club communication (website, interviews of players or club rulers, radio, press, posters etc.)?
- What were the points the club focused on when they were communicating on the stadium (architecture, finances, sponsors, etc.)?

I don't know anything about some communication strategies and stuff. All I can say is that most - if not all - of the informations and pictures you can find in this threat are taken from the stadium website (weserstadion.de) + plus some infos I got from the local newspapers. Maybe you have to google? I don't think that someone in this forum can answer these questions.

January 16th, 2011, 02:37 PM	#282
Werkself wiki.werkskultur.de Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Leverkusen Posts: 183 Likes (Received): 2	I will never get why architects are trying to make a tracked stadium to a football ground with brute force. You need to tear down the stands, there is no other way around it. Weserstadion is the best example for a ugly transformation. Yack. __________________ www.bayer04-forum.com wiki.werkskultur.de

January 23rd, 2011, 11:34 AM	#288
Werkself wiki.werkskultur.de Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Leverkusen Posts: 183 Likes (Received): 2	No real terracing? Only those shitty flip-up seats? Will the ugly lightpoles remain? The last night matches I saw, the pitch lighting was very unregular. __________________ www.bayer04-forum.com wiki.werkskultur.de

January 23rd, 2011, 12:46 PM	#291
Axelferis Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: A space between two worlds Posts: 7,911 Likes (Received): 200	anyway it is better than before __________________ Galliani(milan ac director) warned, “Germany have overtaken us thanks to the wonderful new stadiums they built for the World Cup in 2006. Thanks to the new stadiums being built for Euro 2016, I predict that the French will also overtake us.”

January 30th, 2011, 09:11 PM	#298
StoneRose resident hochdeutsch Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Han(n)over Posts: 369 Likes (Received): 0	I think you'd get more answers at the official Werder forum tbh. __________________ Quedlinburg Göttingen Hamburg - between Schanze and University Einbeck Oldenburg

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January 15th, 2011, 01:45 PM	#281
MrYoung Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Bergen, Norway Posts: 238 Likes (Received): 9	For me the worst part is the existing stands with the old concrete beams used to hold up the new roof. It just looks so incredibly ugly. Perhaps if they could cover them with cladding it would look better.

January 22nd, 2011, 02:02 PM	#285
pamirez Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Stuttgart Posts: 500 Likes (Received): 1	Update: www.weserstadion.de

January 22nd, 2011, 04:51 PM	#286
Curva Nord Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Torino Posts: 1,051 Likes (Received): 0	Stadium borned old, IMHO.

January 23rd, 2011, 12:39 AM	#287
Google1998 BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 188 Likes (Received): 0	bad decision to renovate this stadium... old stadium, it should have been demolished and a new one instead of it! no offence it might look well after the renovation but in time, an old stadium remains old. still, maybe they dont have enough money...

January 23rd, 2011, 11:53 AM	#289
Capital78 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Celje, Ljubljana/Slovenia Posts: 1,051 Likes (Received): 2	Doesn't look fine to me. Actually it's quite awful, but this was a decission due to financial reasons. Still, Bremen missed a great possibility to built a new stadium. Pitty.

January 24th, 2011, 02:31 PM	#293
Marin Mostar Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 708 Likes (Received): 0	Old one was definetly nicer and more elegant. This new one, or should I say reconstructed is beter. The fans are closer, SF roof , it has much more space under the tribunes for shops etc. witch means more money for the club. Conclusion; Better but uglyer stadium.

January 25th, 2011, 02:00 PM	#294
na69 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 9 Likes (Received): 0	Hello everybody, I have some questions about the Werder project. If there is specialists of the club and they could answer me, it will be fantastic - What was the cost of the stadium ? - How long did the stadium building (renovation) run? - What were the different steps of the building? - What was the impact of the stadium building on the different public attending the game (fans groups, other fans, partners, business seats clients etc)? How the stadium building was appreciated by these publics? - Today, are there problems with the public (tickets prices, stadium accesibility because of the building for example)? - What was the communication strategy worked up by the club? - What was the communication worked up during the building period concerning the building (creation of website/blog allowing people to look at the building progress etc)? - What communication did the club work up when the building was finished? - What were the tools the club chose for club communication (website, interviews of players or club rulers, radio, press, posters etc.)? - What were the points the club focused on when they were communicating on the stadium (architecture, finances, sponsors, etc.)? Thank you for your cooperation !!! Sorry for my poor english.

February 6th, 2011, 06:44 PM	#299
imbee Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 155 Likes (Received): 2	I like this project. they made the best of their situation

February 6th, 2011, 09:23 PM	#300
OldWorldResident Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 194 Likes (Received): 0	- What was the cost of the stadium ? 76,25 million Euro - How long did the stadium building (renovation) run? - What were the different steps of the building? 09 / 2008: reconstruction in the north and south starts (new roof) 06 / 2009: reconstruction in the west starts (new stands and roof) 06 / 2010: reconstruction in the east starts (new stands and roof) - What was the impact of the stadium building on the different public attending the game (fans groups, other fans, partners, business seats clients etc)? How the stadium building was appreciated by these publics? - Today, are there problems with the public (tickets prices, stadium accesibility because of the building for example). The ticket prices increased a lot during the last seasons, but the attendance didn't decrease. So although many people are not happy about the prices it's not really a big problem. The fan group "Faninitiative Weserstadion" demanded for more terracing, lower fences and other things. The club tried to respect those demands, but they couldn't come up with all of them due higher costs or different formalities. As one result the club expanded the terracing from 6500 to 7600 seats. - What was the communication strategy worked up by the club? - What was the communication worked up during the building period concerning the building (creation of website/blog allowing people to look at the building progress etc)? - What communication did the club work up when the building was finished? - What were the tools the club chose for club communication (website, interviews of players or club rulers, radio, press, posters etc.)? - What were the points the club focused on when they were communicating on the stadium (architecture, finances, sponsors, etc.)? I don't know anything about some communication strategies and stuff. All I can say is that most - if not all - of the informations and pictures you can find in this threat are taken from the stadium website (weserstadion.de) + plus some infos I got from the local newspapers. Maybe you have to google? I don't think that someone in this forum can answer these questions.