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Old May 28th, 2011, 12:03 AM   #521
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There are also these lights with a vertical strip, horizontal strip and dot on them. Indicating wich way the traffic comes. can't really find any pic about them.

They are used for trams if I am not mistaken. But in Hasselt there are no trams and there is one still working on crossing???

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Those lights work exactly like the regular "red, amber, green" from top to bottom, but they use symbols instead. Regular traffic should just ignore them, but they're placed there for ALL types of public transport. A bus can also use this traffic light to know whether it can drive.

For public transport, these lights phase from "red" to "red-amber" to "green" instead of directly from "red" to "green". Mainly for trams, this saves time for acceleration.

And instead of having an arrow pointing in the direction that has the green light in public transportation, the "green" light may differ in shape:
a | as seen in the picture means it is green to drive straight on,
a \ or / respectively for left or right,
and an upside down triangle to indicate that all allowed directions are green.
The Netherlands has a similar system, but the symbols are displayed with dots instead of in full shape. This has the advantage that they can modify the dots to adjust the shape when more than one allowed direction is possible.

As for the + signal: yup, they just indicate the traffic light shown to the opposite direction, but they are being phased out. It's a small miracle that one got replaced with a new one since it's no longer part of the driving education as far as I'm aware.

EDIT: just checked: no longer part of driving education, but the lights for public transport are part of the theory because you may end up in a public transport lane due to road works or evading an accident.

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Old May 30th, 2011, 02:24 PM   #522
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Just one more thing about giving way to pedestrians when turning; what happens at T-junctions, or where the traffic has to otherwise turn left. Do pedestrians still get a green in this situation?
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Old May 30th, 2011, 08:34 PM   #523
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Allways whenever a pedestrian crossing is indecated when there are no traffic lights.
When doing driving exam, any pedestrian that makes an attempt to cross on a zebra has priority when there are no traffic lights.
In theory if you hit a pedestrian who wasn't crossing on a pedestrian crossing, it's their fault. But that would be overruled by the fact that the pedestrian is a vulnerable road user.
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Old May 31st, 2011, 12:55 PM   #524
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thing about giving way to pedestrians when turning; what happens at T-junctions, or where the traffic has to otherwise turn left. Do pedestrians still get a green in this situation?
When it comes to pedestrian crossings, the UK is one of the most developped countries in the world. In Belgium pedestrians usually get green together with the traffic on their side of the intersection.
On most intersections however, pedestrians do are able to "call" for their green light but again, cars on their side of the intersection will get green at the same time (just earlier).

Crossing in the Netherlands

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Crossing in Wallonia (yes, their cycling lanes are green)



Crossing in Flanders





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Old June 1st, 2011, 03:49 PM   #525
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In the UK, unless pedestrians are already on a crossing, and there are no lights, they have no priority. Also, there is no such thing a jaywalking here, and pedestrians can go wherever they please, except for motorways.
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Old June 1st, 2011, 11:38 PM   #526
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And even then, you can find them on the motorway...
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Old June 1st, 2011, 11:56 PM   #527
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Old June 3rd, 2011, 02:53 PM   #528
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In the UK, unless pedestrians are already on a crossing, and there are no lights, they have no priority. Also, there is no such thing a jaywalking here, and pedestrians can go wherever they please, except for motorways.
Pedestrians here have no priority whatsoever unless they are at a zebracrossing (we have no other crossings) and non verbally communicate that they want to cross. Crossing roadways just like that, without using indicated crossings, is at your responsebility. If you're hit by a car, it is your own fault.
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Old March 16th, 2012, 10:38 PM   #529
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Old September 21st, 2012, 08:10 PM   #530
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In my country, Lithuania, till 1st May 2012 we had old traffic lights installation standard which was based on formally soviet standards. Major facts of old standard:
For turning traffic it was basically installed a traffic lights with additional arrows. But the bad was that when the arrow is off, no matter which signal has a basic traffic light (green or red), the turn into the arrow direction, is prohibited. For example, in this case only straight and right turning traffic is allowed – left turn is prohibited:

[IMG]http://www.************/forumas/picture.php?albumid=510&pictureid=30833[/IMG]

Sometimes it can be dangerous because the turning traffic has no red light an when it’s bad weather or just night time the driver could think that there is no arrow at all at it is allowed to drive in all directions. Almost “unseen” left turn arrow at night in Vilnius:

[IMG]http://www.************/forumas/picture.php?albumid=510&pictureid=30830[/IMG]

The second bad thing of our old standard was that in many cases it was not allowed to install a two color pedestrian traffic lights, so, especially in Vilnius, pedestrians have three color traffic lights which sometimes could be mistaken by drivers because they look like vehicle traffic lights, only smaller:

[IMG]http://www.************/forumas/picture.php?albumid=510&pictureid=30834[/IMG]

The old Lithuanian traffic lights standard had one special thing which was not seen in Russian standards – a white plate with green arrow which allows turning right on red:

[IMG]http://www.************/forumas/picture.php?albumid=510&pictureid=30835[/IMG]

The bad thing was that these plates were installed in almost all intersections, and in some cases it is dangerous.

In the old standard there were two possible signal sequences: 1. red – red and yellow – green – yellow – red; 2. red – green – yellow – red (like in USA). Green signal could flash before going to yellow.


Since 1st May 2012 we have new rules for installation of traffic lights based on West Europe’s technical documentation. Now the turning traffic has its own traffic lights:

[IMG]http://www.************/forumas/picture.php?albumid=510&pictureid=30836[/IMG]

Pedestrian have their own traffic lights:

[IMG]http://www.************/forumas/picture.php?albumid=510&pictureid=30842[/IMG]

And in many cases it is not allowed to install the plates with green arrow by new rules.

In Lithuanian now we have this signal sequence on new installed traffic lights: red – red and yellow – green – yellow – red. Green signal can flash before going to yellow. Red – yellow lasts 1-2 s, yellow lasts 3 s (50 km/h), 4 s (60 km/h), 5 s (70 km/h).
New traffic lights rules are used only for new installed traffic lights. So the old traffic lights will not be changed until reconstruction of intersections.

That’s all for beginning about Lithuanian traffic lights.
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Old September 22nd, 2012, 12:13 AM   #531
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Here is a video of the Hawk Signal which are being implemented at various crosswalks all over the US.

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Old October 15th, 2012, 09:05 AM   #532
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Traffic lights near where I live:
https://maps.google.com/?ll=64.83452...10.92,,0,53.46
As you can see, the lights are placed on the opposite side, and they do go overboard, but for good reason, so that wherever you are waiting you can see a light.
BTW, this signal in particular works on a 4 phases. Traffic from the south goes, then from the east, then from the north, when from the west. This is because there is a combined turn/straight lane in each direction.
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Old October 16th, 2012, 05:37 AM   #533
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Traffic light in a suburb of Iowa City, Iowa.

directs 5 northbound lanes, 5 southbound lanes, 4 eastbound and 3 westbound

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Old October 16th, 2012, 05:47 AM   #534
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One thing I like here in Chicago is that the pedestrian signals have a white "walk" signal, and then a red countdown for how many seconds until the light changes. It's very handy when driving, as you can see a block away exactly how long until the light changes. It helps keep people from making split second decisions when the light "suddenly changes".

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Old October 16th, 2012, 10:49 AM   #535
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It helps keep people from making split second decisions when the light "suddenly changes".
It also works in reverse...
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Old October 16th, 2012, 11:53 PM   #536
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One thing I like here in Chicago is that the pedestrian signals have a white "walk" signal, and then a red countdown for how many seconds until the light changes. It's very handy when driving, as you can see a block away exactly how long until the light changes. It helps keep people from making split second decisions when the light "suddenly changes".

I found myself subconsciously doing this when I lived there.
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Old October 21st, 2012, 04:32 PM   #537
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Just a couple of examples from Hong Kong taken from google street view (I am sure that my fellow Hong Kongers can provide some more):



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Old October 30th, 2012, 10:23 PM   #538
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Some kind of weird traffic light in Japan



Here are some related videos to illustrate this confusion:




So what the hell should we do: Stop or continue going straight?


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Old November 1st, 2012, 06:30 AM   #539
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So what the hell should we do: Stop or continue going straight?

I dunno what the yellow arrow signals are for, but the two signal heads at 2:44 mean "left" (左) and "right" (右). I'm betting the "left" and "right" are something like ramp meters we have in the US that let one or two cars go per green from a freeway ramp onto a freeway.
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Old November 1st, 2012, 12:38 PM   #540
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yellow signals might be for trams/trains which use the intersection. it reminds me on European tram signals, and in background one could hear the sound of rail vehicles.
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