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Old December 3rd, 2012, 01:53 AM   #561
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Sorry, I wasn't aware that I was talking about the same person to the same person.

Yes, arrows are good. I wish the UK had them on all colours. Only the green light can be an arrow here.


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Old December 3rd, 2012, 10:43 AM   #562
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Yes, arrows are good. I wish the UK had them on all colours. Only the green light can be an arrow here.
I didn't know that... It's better when all colors are with arrows.
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Old December 5th, 2012, 02:08 AM   #563
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I agree.

Our pedestrian signals work quite differently too. For a start, the common convention of allowing a green man to be lit whilst traffic going in the same direction has a green is not allowed; even though it is present in almost every other country in the world (only other UK-influenced countries such as the Irish Republic and Hong Kong are the same). A green man can only be lit if there's no vehicle traffic whatsoever which conflict with the crossing. There's also this relatively new convention of putting the pedestrian signal low down on the nearby pole rather than high up on the pole opposite like it was in the past, as well as what it is still like in every other country in the world. I don't like it, but they seem to be sticking to it...

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Old January 6th, 2013, 07:15 PM   #564
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Sorry, I wasn't aware that I was talking to about the same person to the same person.

Yes, arrows are good. I wish the UK had them on all colours. Only the green light can be an arrow here.

The Department of Transport in the UK was experimenting with the introduction of amber arrows quite a while ago. This was from a document published by the Highways Agency in association with the Department of Transport in December 2003. Judging from their lack of introduction within the last decade I assume they didn't continue with the experiment;







(The document these images were taken from is here.)
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Old January 18th, 2013, 06:12 PM   #565
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I had forgotten about these photos, I saw these in the City a couple of weeks ago:

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Old January 19th, 2013, 04:59 PM   #566
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Yes, there's a Transport For London trial going on regarding counting down the clearance interval. Unlike much of the UK, London's been trying its best not to install those annoying nearside pedestrian poles. It's also retaining the blackout period, whereas in many parts of the country now, the green man just changes instantly to red man. Although I like the idea of a clearance signal, I don't really like blackout. I'd rather the green man just flashed, or even the red man like in Australia.

Hong Kong also trialled countdown idicators for the clearance period, about ten years ago. When the green man started to flash, it would come on and when it reached zero, the red man would appear, not too disimilar to the ones in London. I don't think the trial was successful though, as I was there in 2008 and didn't see any still in place.
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Old February 3rd, 2013, 11:52 AM   #567
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What about the number of lanes and number of traffic lights in your countries? Do you have a traffic light above every lane? We used to have them some 15-20 years ago, but then for I dunno what reason (some kind of economy?) they removed many of them and left generally one for each direction, no matter if there is one, two or three or more lanes bellow it, and usually doubled with one on the right side. Here's a pic to illustrate, you can easily see where there were more lights above before:

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Old February 3rd, 2013, 11:54 AM   #568
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In Italy there's usually one traffic light on the right and another one on a gantry above the road, no matter the number of lanes.
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Old February 4th, 2013, 11:39 AM   #569
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Same in Spain.
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Old February 4th, 2013, 06:58 PM   #570
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no rules here.
sometimes each lane has its own light.
sometimes there is just one light on the portal signaling for all lanes.
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Old February 4th, 2013, 07:02 PM   #571
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In Italy there's usually one traffic light on the right and another one on a gantry above the road, no matter the number of lanes.
Sometimes also on the left side.
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Old February 4th, 2013, 08:32 PM   #572
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Sometimes also on the left side.
Only in separate carriageways or one-way streets.
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Old February 6th, 2013, 11:03 PM   #573
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Till the 1st May 2012 Lithuania had old soviet-based standard for traffic lights. There were two ways foreseen in this standard for installing traffic lights in case of different green time for some lanes. First and most used method where to install traffic lights with additional sections - in this case when additional section is off, turning traffic is forbidden, no matter what the main traffic light shows. This method didn't require to install traffic lights above the lanes.

[IMG]http://www.************/forumas/picture.php?albumid=510&pictureid=34732[/IMG]

The second method was to use traffic lights with arrows above each lane. This method was almost unused because of requirement to install traffic lights above each lane and that all traffic lights must have arrows what means that all turning traffic (left and right) must be protected. While the first method allowed to have one protected turning traffic (e.g. Left), and one non-protected.

[IMG]http://www.************/forumas/picture.php?albumid=510&pictureid=34733[/IMG]

Since May 2012 we have german-based traffic lights install method. Each separately directed traffic has minimum two traffic lights: one on the side and one above lanes. Protected turning traffic has arrows, non-protected has no arrows.

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Old March 28th, 2013, 10:52 AM   #574
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Have you in your country a sign like this, that allows to turn right on red:

[IMG]http://www.************/forumas/picture.php?albumid=510&pictureid=30835[/IMG]

This photo is from Lithuania. Turning on red we must check if any pedestrian is crossing before turning and must give way to possible vehicle coming from another way.

Have you such signs in your country or other signals that allow to turn right (left) on red?
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Old March 28th, 2013, 12:55 PM   #575
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Have you in your country a sign like this, that allows to turn right on red:

Have you such signs in your country or other signals that allow to turn right (left) on red?
Such a setup is not allowed in Finland. Instead, the free right turn traffic flow must be separated by an island:



The base rule is simple: If there are traffic lights at the intersection, they must control all the traffic directions available. The island-separated right turn is an exception to the basic rule.
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Old March 28th, 2013, 02:47 PM   #576
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In Romania we have a tiny green flashing arrow where you are allowed to make a right turn on red light:

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Old March 28th, 2013, 04:22 PM   #577
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In Romania we have a tiny green flashing arrow where you are allowed to make a right turn on red light.
A question - does an arrow still flash when the main traffic light becomes green?
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A question - does an arrow still flash when the main traffic light becomes green?
Usually it' turned off during normal green.
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Have you in your country a sign like this, that allows to turn right on red:

[..]
This photo is from Lithuania. Turning on red we must check if any pedestrian is crossing before turning and must give way to possible vehicle coming from another way.

Have you such signs in your country or other signals that allow to turn right (left) on red?
In The Netherlands we do not have them... for cars.
For bicycles, we do have this sign:
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Old March 29th, 2013, 07:28 PM   #580
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Have you in your country a sign like this, that allows to turn right on red:

[IMG]http://www.************/forumas/picture.php?albumid=510&pictureid=30835[/IMG]

This photo is from Lithuania. Turning on red we must check if any pedestrian is crossing before turning and must give way to possible vehicle coming from another way.

Have you such signs in your country or other signals that allow to turn right (left) on red?
In Germany it's also possible to have these fixed "green arrows". It was introduced to traffic code after re-union with GDR. It's one of the few traffic rules which were taken from the former east german traffic code.
In Italy, like in Finland, "continuous free right turns" are separated by an island. It's also allowed to have alighting "turn right arrows" (like shown in the romanian picture, but not flashing). In this case pedestian cannot cross the road, they have "red light".
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