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Old June 11th, 2015, 09:44 PM   #281
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Chile is already considered a developed economy, it is the only South American member of OECD (since 2010).
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Old July 24th, 2015, 09:18 PM   #282
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Hey guys. I did a little traveling this past weekend and I'm bringing some updates. This is the new access to Concepcion, Chile's second largest city. It is being upgraded to expressway standard to provide a safer, faster and more reliable link for freight between the different industries in central south Chile and the 4 seaports located in the metro area of Concepcion. This is one of the busiest roads in the country with thousands of freight trucks every day, and sadly one with the highest death tolls due to failed attempts trying to take over slow moving vehicles in a single lane each bound outdated highway.

There is still construction work along the route. It is expected to be fully operative in the 2Q of 2016.

The route runs between Concepcion's eastern suburbs and Cabrero, a growing forestry city, where it reaches National Route 5, Chile's main highway along the country.


Red dots = seaports
Red line = new route

Start of the route in the eastern suburbs.




New widened exit to the main bus station and new soccer stadium.




New return only overpass for buses exiting the bus station and other vehicles.






Still some work happening.


New gas and service station at the side of the road.






The lane width and road camber have been improved to match the new Chilean expressway standards.


Old toll plaza being removed.


Here we are driving in the old highway, the new eastbound lanes can be seen on the left. You can compare the old and new standards.


Old intersection with the route to Florida and Bulnes. Now a new free flow connection is being built for traffic between Concepcion and Cabrero.










"New Jersey" concrete barriers will be located in the median almost in the whole extension of the route. The standard height was raised from 80 to +100cms due to larger trucks being introduced in the Chilean market and roads.




This was the condition of the old route, it was time to rebuild it.




























New toll plaza, not yet operative. There will be cash only, credit/debit card and electronic free flow toll lanes available.












New Jersey barriers are really tall!


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Old July 24th, 2015, 09:34 PM   #283
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Nice report, thanks for posting!

Is it common to drive across a gravel road during construction on a major highway?
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Old July 25th, 2015, 03:40 AM   #284
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Nice report, thanks for posting!

Is it common to drive across a gravel road during construction on a major highway?
Not at all.

I guess you are talking about this picture.

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Usually when a 2 lane highway is being upgraded to 4 or more lanes, the construction company starts building the first 2 new lanes right next to the old ones. After those new 2 lanes are finished, they are open to traffic and the old 2 lanes are demolished to build the other 2.

This is an exception since the new lanes are finished but not open to traffic, even though they were a few weeks ago. They had already demolished the old lanes but for some reason they had to close the new ones and divert traffic to the gravel in the site of the old lanes.

Weird. Maybe some pending paperwork or the inspectors found some details the company need to fix.
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Old July 26th, 2015, 02:22 AM   #285
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Chile and Brazil have the best motorways in South America
Chile's motorways look like the Spanish autopistas, especially their signs, but in comparison to others, Chile has the best motorways by far.
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Old July 27th, 2015, 05:55 PM   #286
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Yes, we use the same sign design as Spain.
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Old July 27th, 2015, 07:03 PM   #287
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To which signs are you referring? The signs I see in the pictures are different from those we have in Spain. Our direction signs are more messy because they include a "box" with the road number and usually include several destinations. Also, Chile seems to use diamond warning signs and a diagonal bar for prohibition signs. For instance, in this picture:

In Spain you would find these signs instead:



Besides, two typical features of the Spanish motorways in which Chilean motorways differ are the 10 m wide median (usually with a crashbarrier only in one side - or no crashbarrier at all), and the dashed lines that separate the shoulder and the rightmost lane.

Despite all that, I agree that Chilean motorways look somewhat more "European", probably because of the use of blue signs instead of green and because the left line is white instead of yellow.
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Old July 27th, 2015, 08:13 PM   #288
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Well, of course they are not identical, but many of the most common ones are pretty similar. Next destination signs, distances, speed limits, etc.

Even sometimes when you are driving towards Santiago de Compostela, it seems like you are about to arrive to Santiago in Chile.

Similar signs in Spanish highways.


A7-44 by European Roads, en Flickr


Frankrijk2005 417 by European Roads, en Flickr


Highway to Morrazo by hercios, en Flickr
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Old July 27th, 2015, 08:51 PM   #289
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Directional signage looks indeed very similar (definitely not in this set of pictures, but earlier on the thread there are more pictures and you can see many signs with the Spanish design, especially on motorways). Other signs don't use the Spanish standard. Our motorways look completely different in everything else.
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Old July 27th, 2015, 09:03 PM   #290
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Yes, it seems that Chile has changed the typeface used in directional signs. Previously, they used the FHWA typeface, just like Spain until recently, so they looked somewhat similar (except that the Chilean ones are more clear).

They also have that line between the destination and the arrows, like the Portuguese signs:

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Old July 28th, 2015, 05:56 PM   #291
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Nice report, thanks for posting!

Is it common to drive across a gravel road during construction on a major highway?
Sure, temporary roads in Chile may be dangerous. Not only they may be made of gravel but also have potholes and very sharp and unexpected curves.

Needless to mention that Chilean drivers don't slow down to safe speeds in construction zones.
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Old July 29th, 2015, 05:29 AM   #292
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Some pictures of my trip to Chile in 2011:

Acceso Sur - Santiago Metropolitan Region

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Acceso Sur, Chile by Ricardo Bianchi, no Flickr

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Acceso Sur, Chile by Ricardo Bianchi, no Flickr

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Acceso Sur, Chile by Ricardo Bianchi, no Flickr

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Acceso Sur, Chile by Ricardo Bianchi, no Flickr

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Acceso Sur, Chile by Ricardo Bianchi, no Flickr

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Acceso Sur, Chile by Ricardo Bianchi, no Flickr

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Acceso Sur, Chile by Ricardo Bianchi, no Flickr

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Acceso Sur, Chile by Ricardo Bianchi, no Flickr

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Acceso Sur, Chile by Ricardo Bianchi, no Flickr
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Autopista del Sol - Ruta 78

Santiago Metropolitan Region

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Autopista del Sol, Chile by Ricardo Bianchi, no Flickr

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Autopista del Sol, Chile by Ricardo Bianchi, no Flickr

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Autopista del Sol, Chile by Ricardo Bianchi, no Flickr

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Autopista del Sol, Chile by Ricardo Bianchi, no Flickr

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Autopista del Sol, Chile by Ricardo Bianchi, no Flickr

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Autopista del Sol, Chile by Ricardo Bianchi, no Flickr
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Ruta 68

Lo Prado Tunnel toll plaza

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Ruta 68, Chile by Ricardo Bianchi, no Flickr

Autopista Central

Santiago

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Autopista Central, Santiago, Chile by Ricardo Bianchi, no Flickr

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Autopista Central, Santiago, Chile by Ricardo Bianchi, no Flickr

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Autopista Central, Santiago, Chile by Ricardo Bianchi, no Flickr

Near to winery Concha Y Toro, Pirque

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IMG_6947 by Ricardo Bianchi, no Flickr

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IMG_6948 by Ricardo Bianchi, no Flickr

Road to Valle Nevado, Andes (in the spring)

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Camino Valle Nevado, Chile by Ricardo Bianchi, no Flickr

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Camino Valle Nevado, Chile by Ricardo Bianchi, no Flickr

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Camino Valle Nevado, Chile by Ricardo Bianchi, no Flickr
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Thanks for sharing your pictures with us. I hope you enjoyed your trip to Chile.

Autopista del Sol needs an upgrade asap.
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Autopista del Sol needs an upgrade asap.
Agreed, same with Autopista Central.
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Agreed, same with Autopista Central.
Absolutely. It impresses me how short the exit lanes are in Autopista Central. Was it a lack of vision? Miscalculation of traffic flows? Every time I'm in Santiago, there are always huge lines to exit the expressway and also blocking the right lane, equals congestion.
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Absolutely. It impresses me how short the exit lanes are in Autopista Central. Was it a lack of vision? Miscalculation of traffic flows? Every time I'm in Santiago, there are always huge lines to exit the expressway and also blocking the right lane, equals congestion.
I have no idea what went on in there but clearly the results are far from good.

Narrow lanes, short ramps, bad interchanges, steep curves, no shoulders... Santiago's freeways are severely overrated among Chileans but nowadays the cost of these mistakes are obvious.
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I have no idea what went on in there but clearly the results are far from good.

Narrow lanes, short ramps, bad interchanges, steep curves, no shoulders... Santiago's freeways are severely overrated among Chileans but nowadays the cost of these mistakes are obvious.
Hopefuly improvements such as the interchange between Autopista Central and Costanera Norte, and Perez Zujovic will help to heal the traffic issues.
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Chile is already considered a developed economy, it is the only South American member of OECD (since 2010).
Mexico and Turkey are also both OECD members, and it would be hard to call either of them "developed"...
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