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Old February 26th, 2007, 11:20 AM   #1
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This thread is devoted to the new home of the Indianapolis Colts, Lucas Oil Stadium. All information can be found primarily at this site:
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State OKs deal with city and Colts
Stadium construction to start within days
By Michele McNeil
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September 9, 2005

Construction will begin within days on a new Colts stadium that will have more luxurious seats, a street-level team store, escalators to whisk spectators up six major levels and an average of one toilet for every 45 fans.

The state board charged with building the $500 million, retractable-roof stadium unanimously approved a key agreement with the city and the Indianapolis Colts on Thursday that will govern how the stadium will be designed and built.

The approval of the development agreement comes after the city reached a deal last week with the Colts on the lease, a separate agreement that ensures the Colts will stay until at least 2034. The city's Capital Improvement Board authorized President Fred Glass to sign the lease and development agreements Thursday.

"It's a big day for the city," said David Frick, chairman of the Indiana Stadium and Convention Center Building Authority.

"The fun part really now begins."

Thursday, the state authority, which has been operating without any money, was able to jumpstart the action with a $40 million loan to cover some construction costs until the project's entire financing is arranged. That will take a $1 billion loan, which would pay for the new stadium and, later, an expansion of the Indiana Convention Center. On Thursday, the authority approved spending more than $15 million on contracts for fencing, excavation and sewer construction work.

The development agreement does not call for a ticket tax -- and makes it almost impossible for the state to impose one. If the state wants to try, the development agreement says, officials have to consult with several groups first, including the Indiana Pacers, the Indianapolis Indians, the city and hospitality groups. Even then, the Colts could break their lease if the ticket tax is imposed, said John Klipsch, executive director of the Indiana Stadium and Convention Center Building Authority.

The 63-page development agreement does everything from spelling out a construction timeline to saying when the Colts will seek an agreement with the Bureau of Motor Vehicles for a specialty team license plate.

The agreement requires a model of an actual stadium suite to be built by June 1 so the Colts could use it for marketing. The stadium seats also must be in place by March 2008, to help the Colts sell tickets.

Though the stadium will be game-ready by the start of the 2008 football season, the finishing touches, such as the last concession stands, are not expected to be complete until February 2009.

Still more details are in the so-called "program" that complements the development agreement -- details such as the number of toilets. The total could be as many as 1,400, but there's no word yet on how many will be designated for each sex.

There will be 10 to 13 escalators and 10 to 12 elevators for fans. The stadium will include a street-level team store and six levels. About 11 percent of the 63,000 seats will be roomier, club-level seats. Luxury suites will number from 140 to 150.

The playing field will be 25 feet below street level.

The stadium will be built with 15,000 tons of steel and 100,000 cubic yards of concrete, measuring up to 1.8 million square feet.

That will make the new stadium twice the size of Conseco Fieldhouse.

Bigger and better

The new stadium will be bigger and better than the RCA Dome in many ways. Here are just a few:
¥ Size: About 12 acres, or 522,720 square feet compared to the RCA Dome's stadium building area of 7.25 acres, or about 315,810 square feet.
¥ Seats: 63,000 seats, including 7,100 club seats, compared to 57,890 seats in the RCA Dome and about 5,000 club seats.
¥ Suites: 140 to 150 suites, compared to the RCA Dome's 104.
¥ Concession stands: 60, compared to the 38 temporary and 26 permanent in the Dome.
¥ Escalators: 10 to 13, compared to zero.

Slot machines in Indianapolis would be the key to financing a $500 million, retractable-roof stadium proposed Sunday night by the mayor and the owner of the Indianapolis Colts.

"We have a deal," said a smiling Mayor Bart Peterson as he and team owner Jim Irsay held up their arms in victory before a roaring crowd of more than 55,000 that had turned out to see the Colts take on the Baltimore Ravens.

While the cheers at the RCA Dome were loud, the agreement between the city and the franchise marks only the start of what could be a contentious process.

The debate over expanding gambling in Indianapolis began Sunday and will reach into the Statehouse as the legislature considers the plan when it reconvenes next month.

Parts of the plan also must clear the City-County Council.

Sunday, Peterson and Irsay briefly set aside the potential political and practical hurdles facing the plan as they stood on the dome's artificial turf to announce their plans to ensure that Indianapolis' two-decade-long status as a National Football League city continues for a second generation. The announcement before a sold-out game culminated two years of negotiations.

The proposal calls for the city to build a 63,000-seat stadium, which could expand to seat 70,000, in time for the 2008 NFL season. The team will sign a new 30-year lease.

Already, lawmakers are looking for concessions.

Senate Tax and Financing Policy Chairman Luke Kenley, R-Noblesville, said he has asked city officials to make as many as 6,000 tickets to each Colts game available at prices of $25 or less to help win legislative support for their financing package.

"I want Joe Sixpack to have a price he can afford to pay for a ticket," Kenley said.

Peterson plans to sell the stadium deal as part of a larger $800 million package that includes a massive expansion of the Indiana Convention Center, which draws more than 800,000 visitors to the city each year and which officials contend is vital to the Downtown economy.

Peterson has said the Convention Center would be expanded on the site that now houses the dome, while a new stadium would be built to the south. In the face of criticism from those who oppose subsidizing a sports franchise, Peterson has argued that the team is key to the city's big-city image.

That assertion could be bolstered if building a new stadium helps the city land a Super Bowl, a prize the NFL has awarded other cities that have built new stadiums.

Advised lawmakers

Peterson and his aides briefed Gov.-elect Mitch Daniels and state lawmakers on the package's highlights several hours before the kickoff of one of the biggest games in franchise history, a nationally televised contest in which Peyton Manning made a run at breaking the NFL's single-season touchdown passing record.

Daniels, who recently expressed doubts about expanding gambling in Indiana, declined to comment on the plan Sunday.

Some of those briefed told The Indianapolis Star that the stadium would be paid for with borrowed money bankrolled by taxes imposed on yet-to-be-authorized slot machines in Marion County, as well as a contribution from the Colts and the NFL totaling about $100 million.

Late Sunday, Peterson spokesman Steve Campbell confirmed the financing plan would include roughly $400 million from pull-tab machines, which are similar to slot machines, and the remainder would come from the team and the league. He said further details would be released today.

City officials also have said they'd solicit money from Hoosier businesses, spend some of the Capital Improvement Board's cash reserves and seek money from the state and federal governments. The board acts as landlord for the Convention Center and the city's sporting venues.

Marion County GOP Chairman Michael Murphy, an Indiana House lawmaker from Indianapolis who was not briefed on the mayor's plan, said Peterson could have a tough time winning approval for anything resembling a Downtown casino.

"A Downtown casino would be controversial because it's a clear expansion of gambling," he said. "I'm sure the riverboats would fight it."

Sen. Murray Clark said he was not sure the city had any other good options for finding the money needed to finance the proposal before the mayor's self-imposed, end-of-the-year deadline to seal a deal with the Colts.

"I think they're going to need a lot of help from the legislature," said Clark, R-Indianapolis.

In addition, details to be released today could include a provision reducing the city's obligation to make annual payments to the Colts beginning in 2006 to keep them playing here. Under the team's existing contract, the city could owe the Colts payments totaling at least $36 million through 2008, when the new stadium would open.

Without a new lease, the team could leave Indianapolis after the 2013 season, and possibly earlier.

The Convention Center expansion would be paid for with higher restaurant, hotel, stadium admission and auto rental taxes, as well as by lifting the cap on a special taxing district that captures sales, income and other taxes generated by the city's major sporting venues, said House Ways and Means Chairman Jeff Espich, R-Uniondale.

Currently, the city keeps $6.5 million a year of the roughly $12 million the special sports taxing district generates. The district was created in 1997 to help build Conseco Fieldhouse. The rest of the money goes to the state.

State lawmakers have said including this element in the financing package could be a tough sell, especially while the state has a nearly $600 million deficit.

"I think that is a weak point of their argument," Espich said. "I don't think what they propose can be taken as gospel just yet."

House Speaker Brian Bosma, R-Indianapolis, said he expects Peterson to pitch financing for the stadium and Convention Center expansion separately. He said having a Super Bowl in the mix could help.

"Whether that price is too much will be answered during the legislative session," he said. "Certainly, Central Indiana's legislators understand the importance of our professional teams."

Downtown business boon

The city began negotiations with the Colts in 2002, as rumors spread that Irsay was considering moving the franchise to Los Angeles. Irsay said repeatedly that he was committed to Indianapolis but also warned that the RCA Dome, the smallest in the league, has contributed to the team trailing much of the league in revenue.

Supporters have said the team has played a crucial role in the revitalization of Downtown that took place largely after the Colts arrived from Baltimore in 1984.

Sunday, Jillian's on South Meridian Street was filled with a sea of blue-clad fans in the hours before the kickoff. When asked about the effect the Colts have on his business, general manager Jim Brown looked at the crowd.

"Do I really need to answer that?" he joked.

Brown said the bar's business on the day of home games is nearly double what it normally is.

"We love the Colts, and it's great they're going to be here for 30 more years," he said. "I just wish we had 30 more years of Peyton Manning, Marvin Harrison and Edgerrin James, too."
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New features:

Seating for football - 63,000
Corporate suites - 142
Colts Store one (1) accessible from two levels
Average seat width - 20 to 21 inches (all theater-type seats)
Distance between rows - 33-35 inches
Site covers 37.7 acres
Stadium footprint - 12 acres
Public Concourse (typical width) - 30 feet
1,200 toilet fixtures, 700 urinals and 800 lavatories (public areas)
Concession Stands
Fifty Eight (58) permanent stands
Ninety (90) portable stands
14 escalators
11 passenger elevators
Pedestrian ramps - two
Exterior Plazas - four with entrances at each plaza
Number of major levels - Seven (7)
Retractable roof
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Stadium fact sheet, courtesy of the Indiana Stadium and Convention Building Authority


Lucas Oil Stadium Project Fact Sheet

Location: Indianapolis, Indiana - on a downtown site bounded on the north by South Street, on the east by Capitol Avenue, on the south by McCarty Street, and on the west by Missouri Street.

Description: A seven-level stadium with a retractable roof seating 63,000 for football. It can be reconfigured to seat 70,000 or more for NCAA basketball and football and concerts. It will cover 1.8 million square feet (over twice the size of Conseco Fieldhouse) with 140-150 suites. It will replace the RCA Dome, a tri-level domed stadium seating 57,800 for football with 104 suites.

Purposes: The multi-purpose stadium will be home to the NFL Indianapolis Colts, host NCAA Final Four men's and women's basketball games, and be used for major conventions, trade shows and events such as the annual Indiana Black Expo and Circle City Classic.

Developer: The Indiana Stadium and Convention Building Authority ("the Authority"), a group of civic and business leaders appointed by the Governor of Indiana and the Mayor of Indianapolis. The Authority is chaired by David R. Frick. Its Executive Director is John P. Klipsch.

Architect: The stadium is designed by HKS of Dallas, Texas, with significant assistance from local design firms such as A2S04 and Browning Day Mullins Dierdorf of Indianapolis and other Indiana design and engineering consultants.Construction Manager: The construction manager is the Hunt Construction Group, Inc., of Indianapolis, assisted by the local firms of Smoot Construction and Mezzetta Construction.

The project will be constructed by dozens of trade contractors, mostly from Central Indiana.Financing: The anticipated stadium project cost is about $675 million. This includes $500 million for actual construction, $125 in "soft" costs, and $50 million in contingencies. It is being financed with funds raised jointly by the State of Indiana and the City of Indianapolis, with the Indianapolis Colts providing $100 million. Marion County has raised taxes for food and beverage sales, auto excise taxes, innkeeper's taxes and admission taxes for its share of the costs. Meanwhile, a small increase in food and beverage taxes in six "donut' counties and the sale of Colts license plates completes the total.Benefits: In addition to retaining the NFL Colts in Indianapolis through a new long-term contract, the new stadium - upon completion - will pave the way for another expansion of the Indiana Convention Center. Taken together, these projects are expected to create $2.25 billion in economic benefit to Central Indiana in 10 years and create some 4,200 new permanent jobs, as well as 4,900 construction jobs during the life of the projects.Back to top

Frequently asked questions, and our answers

How are Central Indiana and Greater Indianapolis going to benefit from a new stadium and an enlarged convention center?
Both professional sports and tourism are highly competitive industries these days. We must retain our competitive edge in these fields because so much of Central Indiana's economic future depends on expanding the market we have already built.

Two separate independent studies, both by the consulting firm of Price Waterhouse Coopers, forecast that these two construction projects will generate enormous economic benefits to the area.

The two projects would create nearly 10,000 jobs, 4,200 of which will be permanent and 4,900 during construction. This will add some $2.25 billion to the state and regional economy over ten years and provide about $26 million in tax revenues for state and local government.

The Colts would not be the sole users of the new stadium. It also would be a venue for additional football games (like the Circle City Classic and IHSAA championship games), NCAA Final Four basketball games, concerts, trade shows and major conventions (such as Black Expo, FDIC, Dealer News, etc.)

Coupled with the subsequent addition to the Convention Center, the Convention & Visitors Association would be able to realize an additional 18 to 23 major conventions and trade shows and an additional four to five large consumer shows each year.

Why do we need to build a new stadium to help the Colts?
The Indianapolis Colts believe they no longer can be financially competitive with other NFL teams in the RCA Dome. Relatively speaking, it has too few seats and too few corporate boxes. By not building a stadium that will allow the Colts to be in the middle of the NFL pack economically, we face the possibility that some other major urban area could make them a more attractive offer. Their relocation would have a disastrous effect on Central Indiana, both from an employment and public image perspective.

The new stadium will seat 63,000 for football games and have 140 to 150 corporate suites. Seating can be expanded to 70,000 for basketball, conventions, concerts, Super Bowl, etc. The RCA Dome seats only 57,965 for football games and has only 104 suites. The differences are significant from the standpoint of revenue potential.

What are the prospects that the Colts will raise their ticket prices to help pay for their share of the new stadium costs?
Neither the State of Indiana nor the City of Indianapolis - and more specifically the Indiana Stadium and Convention Building Authority - has any jurisdiction over what the Colts charge for their games. That is purely a decision by the Colts in consultation with the National Football League.

We also have no regulatory authority to determine how the Colts put their tickets on sale. That was never a condition imposed on the Colts through the stadium lease.

How can you justify spending so much money on a stadium and convention center when police and firemen may be laid off and school athletic programs shut down?
This is not simply an entertainment versus education or public safety issue. This is an economic development issue in support of two industries - professional sports and tourism - that Central Indiana made a commitment to many years ago. To stay competitive in these fields, which creates thousands of important jobs and contributes millions to our tax base, we must have upgraded facilities.

Without these new facilities, we could see the Colts leave town, along with other major conventions we can no longer accommodate. Losing either or both would be devastating to our economy and create levels of unemployment that would be completely unacceptable. Since both activities generate tax revenues for both state and local government, they are assets that help pay the bills for education, public health and safety, good transportation and all the other amenities we enjoy.

Earlier experience also tells us that if we weren't making these investments, there is no assurance that such funds would be available for other public purposes.

The Indiana Stadium and Convention Building Authority is a state-authorized agency that derives the bulk of its revenue from the recent Marion County increases in food and beverage, auto rental, innkeepers and admissions taxes, plus higher food and beverage taxes in six other Central Indiana counties. It receives no funding from property taxes.

Neither the state nor the ISCBA has any role in determining the level of public safety personnel in Indianapolis, reductions of services or any other fiscal decisions that are the exclusive prerogative of the Mayor of Indianapolis and the City-County Council.

Why does the new stadium need a retractable roof? The Bears and Packers play outdoors in cold weather. Why can't the Colts?
The stadium planners took into consideration several factors before concluding that a retractable roof would be a valuable feature. First, other cities around the country have been building stadiums with retractable roofs because of the increased flexibility for various types of events, including both football and baseball. These include Toronto, Phoenix, Seattle, Houston (two stadiums), Milwaukee, and Glendale, Ariz., for the football Cardinals.

Second, we heard numerous expressions from football fans that Colts games, when feasible, should be played in the open air, like all college games in Indiana. Just as many fans, however, said they would not attend without a closed roof to protect them in inclement weather. The current plan gives us the flexibility to go either way, a decision that surely will be made by the Colts on game days and by college or high school teams that might use the stadium.

Finally, we must remember that the new stadium is to be used on many days for non-football events - like conventions, trade show, exhibits, etc. An open air stadium without a roof would be useless for such events.

Why do we have a Project Labor Agreement for the project?
The Authority is merely implementing the terms prescribed by the 2005 General Assembly in its legislation creating the Authority and the funding formulas for the project. The law required us to enter into a Project Labor Agreement.

The PLA is beneficial to the project in two ways. The unions signatory to the agreement commit to providing all the qualified craftsmen needed on the project when they are needed - at a time when there is an industry-wide shortage of trained craftsmen in some specialties. In addition, the unions - through the PLA - are guaranteeing that this time-sensitive project will not be interrupted by any jurisdictional strikes or other work stoppages that might jeopardize delivering the project in time for the first game of the 2008 NFL season.


Inquiries in writing should be directed to the Indiana Stadium and Convention Building Authority at the following address:

425 W. South St.
Indianapolis, IN 46225
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Thanks for that naptown boy! A thread on this was a great idea.
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I'm looking forward to this opening. I can't wait to see the finished product. With this opening up soon, Indy will continue to get the Final Four on a regular basis and probably the Super Bowl pretty soon as well. I've been to the RCA dome for the '97 Final Four, and I'm sure I'll be to LOS eventually too.
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Yeah man, it's going to impressive in comparison to other new stadiums that are being built.
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I had no idea that LOS was so far along. Looks pretty sweet!!

And damn, how many cranes are there on site? I see about 10 in the pic above. More/less?
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EDIT:They have 11 cranes at the site, and the highest of those is over 300 feet up!

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I know LOS is downtown, but what's immediately surrounding it? Are there plans for any bars/restaurants next to it once it opens? Will there be parking garages next to it too?
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Yes there are actually a few bars right around the stadium. I do not know about rest. though? I am just hoping that there are sokme investments into midrise apartment buildings or townhomes near the new stadium. I think it would be possible but we will have to wait and see. There is a hotel by the new stadium and two more are being built a block away to the west, but they are suburban 6-7 storie pieces of shit!!!
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More like 300 ft isn't it? The stadium will be around 270 ft tall, and from what I see, those cranes are a bit taller than where the tip of the roof will be.
Oh, my bad: I meant 300.
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There is a hotel by the new stadium and two more are being built a block away to the west, but they are suburban 6-7 storie pieces of shit!!!


Hopefully they won't look like Super 8's and Days Inn's.
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I know LOS is downtown, but what's immediately surrounding it? Are there plans for any bars/restaurants next to it once it opens? Will there be parking garages next to it too?
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Kc, the picture above is taken from the south end of the downtown urban core looking away from the core of skyscrapers. That's why it doesn't look like there's much going on around it. The great thing about the current stadium, the RCA Dome is that even tho it's across the street from LOS, it's essentially right on the edge of the dense core of downtown skyscrapers that you see on all the skyline photos of Indy. The RCA Dome is an amazing venue for a downtown sports stadium. LOS is across the street from it and past a dingy rail road bridge and tracks. They seriously need to do something about this barrier to keep the urban stadium "feel" that currently exists in Indy. Something creative--big challenges are always great opportunities for amazing works of architecture. I'm thinking they should build some sort of arched arcade/causeway under the tracks, but I'm dreaming. There is no money for it.
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Btw, now that a few trusses are up, I'd love to see a picture of how LOS fits into the skyline. What's the view like as you drive in from I-70?
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Kc, the picture above is taken from the south end of the downtown urban core looking away from the core of skyscrapers. That's why it doesn't look like there's much going on around it. The great thing about the current stadium, the RCA Dome is that even tho it's across the street from LOS, it's essentially right on the edge of the dense core of downtown skyscrapers that you see on all the skyline photos of Indy. The RCA Dome is an amazing venue for a downtown sports stadium. LOS is across the street from it and past a dingy rail road bridge and tracks. They seriously need to do something about this barrier to keep the urban stadium "feel" that currently exists in Indy. Something creative--big challenges are always great opportunities for amazing works of architecture. I'm thinking they should build some sort of arched arcade/causeway under the tracks, but I'm dreaming. There is no money for it.
As I haven't been to Indy in a couple years, can you elaborate on this?? Or does anyone have any time for some Google earth fun?

I ask because it's interesting that you say its right next door to the RCA Dome, but then there are some RR tracks that you have to cross to get to it too. I looked at it on a satellite image (Google again) but couldn't really tell where it would go.
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As I haven't been to Indy in a couple years, can you elaborate on this?? Or does anyone have any time for some Google earth fun?

I ask because it's interesting that you say its right next door to the RCA Dome, but then there are some RR tracks that you have to cross to get to it too. I looked at it on a satellite image (Google again) but couldn't really tell where it would go.
Technically, it's across the tracks immediately south of the RCA Dome and then across South St. The LOS site is bounded by South, Capitol, Missouri and McCarty. The stadium itself angled toward Monument Circle and set on the northern 2/3 of the site.
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Technically, it's across the tracks immediately south of the RCA Dome and then across South St. The LOS site is bounded by South, Capitol, Missouri and McCarty. The stadium itself angled toward Monument Circle and set on the northern 2/3 of the site.
I see it now. Thanks CorrND.

Wouldn't this be a great opportunity for some other projects to go up around it (aside from the hotels)? It seems pretty damn close to downtown - but, like I said, I haven't been in Indy for awhile and don't know whats exactly between DT and LOS.
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Btw, now that a few trusses are up, I'd love to see a picture of how LOS fits into the skyline. What's the view like as you drive in from I-70?
I dont have any photos just yet but it looks VERY spectacular coming up from the airport on 1-70. It should fit right into the skyline from the south.
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