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delores · January 16th, 2009, 10:49 AM

Would you really want to live opposite such self indulgent mess of a building? The problem i have with it and with most alsop buildings are that they are plonked in places without any consideration whatsover to their surroundings. They just want to be iconic without any real understanding of the architectual history of the area in the vain hope they will somehow become a new landmark, ofcourse they will but for all the wrong reasons.

london lad · January 16th, 2009, 10:56 AM

Does anybody actually know if this ever made it to a planning application. I can't remember if it had ever been submitted. It certainly hasn't got planning permission.

london lad · February 6th, 2009, 10:27 AM

Alsop dropped from City Road
www.building.co.uk
6 February 2009

Will Alsop has been replaced by architect Jestico + Whiles on a 43-storey tower development in central London

The tower at 151 City Road was to have been a collaboration between Alsop and artist Bruce McLean featuring a mix of shops, bars, a fitness centre, a hotel and flats. Publicity at the building’s launch in February 2007 hailed it as a “pioneering new building type, fusing large-scale art, sculpture and architecture”.

But client Endorra Holdings, part of the Access Self Storage group, has appointed Jestico + Whiles to design the building instead of Alsop.

A spokesperson for Alsop claimed the client had been persuaded to opt for a less ambitious scheme because of the economic climate. He said: “In the light of this decision we have decided to rule ourselves out.”

DarJoLe · February 6th, 2009, 11:01 AM

Interesting what they'll come up with. I don't think they've done anything on this scale before. The most famous works they've done is this apartment block in Limehouse.

image hosted on flickr

Jamandell (d69) · February 6th, 2009, 02:19 PM

I'm not normally a pessimist...but I predict the new design will be shit

delores · February 6th, 2009, 09:13 PM

Well they are not that bad, infact they are quiet good architects, maybe not as radical as the alsop building.

nukey · February 7th, 2009, 09:26 AM

thank god. I like these guys' buildings... and that alsop design was a bit messy.

and-r · February 7th, 2009, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamandell (d69)

I'm not normally a pessimist...but I predict the new design will be shit

could be amazing actually, take a look at their website, their designs for camden tube station would make rogers proud

clubbernut · February 21st, 2009, 04:15 PM

Phew... I breath a serious sigh of relief!!

Been standing in my garden today wondering what the building was just popping into view. It turns out to be Eagle house but when I spotted this thread I read the whole thing seriously sh*tting it... no way did I want to look out my window every day and see that mess!!

Close call...

london lad · September 8th, 2009, 10:09 PM

Screening Opinion for the site
No longer 43fls. Looks to be 24fls now.

151-159 City Road,

The proposal is for the erection of a 4 star hotel development with the provision of 247 bedrooms. Ancillary facilities would include a gym and spa at basement level and
separate restaurant and bar at the top of the building which would be open to non
staying guests.

The angular nature of the Site's footphnt is reflected in the design of the proposal
which projects upwards with a uniform height until the 16th fioor, at which point it
chamfers away from Eagle House to the west and the Britania Building to the north.,
This means that the building is more slender at the top and when viewed from the
eastern end of City Road, the top of the building is triangular in appearance. The
facade design continues to play on the theme of angles as it is divided up into a series
of diamond shapes.

The building would have a gross external floor area of 20,091 sq m with 19 floors of
hotel floorspace above ground, two floors in the basement and four floors of plant
enclosed within the building envelope at the top.

Newcastle Guy · September 8th, 2009, 10:14 PM

So we're looking at a drop to around 80m.

Ah well.

london lad · January 14th, 2010, 10:33 AM

City Road hotel, Old Street, London by Squire and Partners

14 January, 2010 | By Richard Waite

Squire and Partners has submitted plans for a 247-room luxury boutique hotel opposite Moorfields Eye Hospital in City Road, London

The scheme for Soneva Properties will feature a business centre for small and medium-sized local businesses on its first floor and a sky-bar on its 17th floor.

Describing the design of the scheme, a spokesman for the practice said: ‘Responding to the Moorfields Eye Hospital opposite, and taking inspiration from the 1980’s artworks of Bridget Riley, the facade is expressed as a triple glazed skin enlivened with differing patterns of transparency, opacity and solidity to convey diagonal slopes breaking across an underlying vertical structure.

‘Manipulation and modulation of light, both internally and externally, give the facade richness and an ever-changing face on this prominent site, as well as assisting solar performance to create a sustainable development. The conjunction of the vertical and the diagonal create a visual effect of depth and movement, and express the activities taking place within the building.’

delores · January 14th, 2010, 10:51 AM

Looks interesting and yet another hotel for London, obviously marketing towards the olympics. It almost looks gothic at night.

EnglishKevin · January 15th, 2010, 11:51 AM

I'm ignoring the base for a moment and thinking that this would be greeted with open arms in Barcelona.

If we have a serious problem in LOndon ( and the UK ) its the greyness of it all . If it isn't glass its grey. So a dash of colour here and there would not be amiss- tastefully done .

The base looks like they've stolen it from the bedroom of a teenager in a council flat in 1983.

Argos ARchitecture.

DarJoLe · January 15th, 2010, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EnglishKevin

I'm ignoring the base for a moment and thinking that this would be greeted with open arms in Barcelona.

If we have a serious problem in LOndon ( and the UK ) its the greyness of it all . If it isn't glass its grey. So a dash of colour here and there would not be amiss- tastefully done .

The base looks like they stolen it from the bedroom of a teenager in a council flat in 1983.

Argos ARchitecture.

I think you're talking about the previous Alsop proposal which has now been replaced with Squire & Partners one below.

potto · January 15th, 2010, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clubbernut

Phew... I breath a serious sigh of relief!!

Been standing in my garden today wondering what the building was just popping into view. It turns out to be Eagle house but when I spotted this thread I read the whole thing seriously sh*tting it... no way did I want to look out my window every day and see that mess!!

Close call...

home swap? The glass thing sounds classy on the edge of safe (words probably used for that awfully dull red brick thing next door... you get stimualted by that?) but I would definitely like to see a bit more Alsop, the fact they they got cold feet in the financial climate shows that we probably missed out here...

DarJoLe · January 15th, 2010, 12:17 PM

Exactly, if anywhere can take an Alsop it's around here.

potto · January 15th, 2010, 12:25 PM

Indeed i wish these areas of London would take the bull by the horns and actually try and take London somewhere new rather than being subservient all the time, pussy footing about like the junior in Westminster planning dept.

Manuel · January 15th, 2010, 11:01 PM

Fully agree, it the right place for a bit of Alsop subversion. Shame the project was dumped. The S&P is a bit conventionnal but its sharpness will be its saving grace in the arrogant department. A bit too much already for Westminster guys!

Langur · January 18th, 2010, 01:04 AM

The Alsop design was crap and so is its replacement.

February 6th, 2009, 11:01 AM	#224
DarJoLe Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London Posts: 15,671 Likes (Received): 397	Interesting what they'll come up with. I don't think they've done anything on this scale before. The most famous works they've done is this apartment block in Limehouse. image hosted on flickr __________________ "I can quite confidently and with pride say that if everything goes to plan London 2012 will be the best Olympic Games and will surpass Barcelona and Sydney in terms of atmosphere, style and achievement. And not just about the sport. The whole city and its people will come alive and want to be a part of this. It just feels right." DarJoLe, May 19th 2006.

February 6th, 2009, 09:13 PM	#226
delores Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,564 Likes (Received): 25	Well they are not that bad, infact they are quiet good architects, maybe not as radical as the alsop building. Last edited by delores; February 6th, 2009 at 09:19 PM.

February 7th, 2009, 09:26 AM	#227
nukey Somnium Quinti Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 677 Likes (Received): 0	thank god. I like these guys' buildings... and that alsop design was a bit messy. __________________ esaelp ecuas dna liatkcoc nwarp

January 15th, 2010, 11:51 AM	#234
EnglishKevin BANNED Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 578 Likes (Received): 0	I'm ignoring the base for a moment and thinking that this would be greeted with open arms in Barcelona. If we have a serious problem in LOndon ( and the UK ) its the greyness of it all . If it isn't glass its grey. So a dash of colour here and there would not be amiss- tastefully done . The base looks like they've stolen it from the bedroom of a teenager in a council flat in 1983. Argos ARchitecture. Last edited by EnglishKevin; January 15th, 2010 at 12:26 PM.

January 15th, 2010, 12:17 PM	#237
DarJoLe Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London Posts: 15,671 Likes (Received): 397	Exactly, if anywhere can take an Alsop it's around here. __________________ "I can quite confidently and with pride say that if everything goes to plan London 2012 will be the best Olympic Games and will surpass Barcelona and Sydney in terms of atmosphere, style and achievement. And not just about the sport. The whole city and its people will come alive and want to be a part of this. It just feels right." DarJoLe, May 19th 2006.

January 16th, 2009, 10:49 AM	#221
delores Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,564 Likes (Received): 25	Would you really want to live opposite such self indulgent mess of a building? The problem i have with it and with most alsop buildings are that they are plonked in places without any consideration whatsover to their surroundings. They just want to be iconic without any real understanding of the architectual history of the area in the vain hope they will somehow become a new landmark, ofcourse they will but for all the wrong reasons.

January 16th, 2009, 10:56 AM	#222
london lad Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: London Posts: 8,155 Likes (Received): 45	Does anybody actually know if this ever made it to a planning application. I can't remember if it had ever been submitted. It certainly hasn't got planning permission.

February 6th, 2009, 10:27 AM	#223
london lad Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: London Posts: 8,155 Likes (Received): 45	Alsop dropped from City Road www.building.co.uk 6 February 2009 Will Alsop has been replaced by architect Jestico + Whiles on a 43-storey tower development in central London The tower at 151 City Road was to have been a collaboration between Alsop and artist Bruce McLean featuring a mix of shops, bars, a fitness centre, a hotel and flats. Publicity at the building’s launch in February 2007 hailed it as a “pioneering new building type, fusing large-scale art, sculpture and architecture”. But client Endorra Holdings, part of the Access Self Storage group, has appointed Jestico + Whiles to design the building instead of Alsop. A spokesperson for Alsop claimed the client had been persuaded to opt for a less ambitious scheme because of the economic climate. He said: “In the light of this decision we have decided to rule ourselves out.”

February 6th, 2009, 02:19 PM	#225
Jamandell (d69) Rocking at Glasgow Uni Join Date: May 2006 Location: Glasgow Posts: 2,655 Likes (Received): 8	I'm not normally a pessimist...but I predict the new design will be shit

February 21st, 2009, 04:15 PM	#229
clubbernut Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: London Posts: 119 Likes (Received): 25	Phew... I breath a serious sigh of relief!! Been standing in my garden today wondering what the building was just popping into view. It turns out to be Eagle house but when I spotted this thread I read the whole thing seriously sh*tting it... no way did I want to look out my window every day and see that mess!! Close call...

September 8th, 2009, 10:09 PM	#230
london lad Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: London Posts: 8,155 Likes (Received): 45	Screening Opinion for the site No longer 43fls. Looks to be 24fls now. 151-159 City Road, The proposal is for the erection of a 4 star hotel development with the provision of 247 bedrooms. Ancillary facilities would include a gym and spa at basement level and separate restaurant and bar at the top of the building which would be open to non staying guests. The angular nature of the Site's footphnt is reflected in the design of the proposal which projects upwards with a uniform height until the 16th fioor, at which point it chamfers away from Eagle House to the west and the Britania Building to the north., This means that the building is more slender at the top and when viewed from the eastern end of City Road, the top of the building is triangular in appearance. The facade design continues to play on the theme of angles as it is divided up into a series of diamond shapes. The building would have a gross external floor area of 20,091 sq m with 19 floors of hotel floorspace above ground, two floors in the basement and four floors of plant enclosed within the building envelope at the top.

September 8th, 2009, 10:14 PM	#231
Newcastle Guy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 8,957 Likes (Received): 18	So we're looking at a drop to around 80m. Ah well.

January 14th, 2010, 10:33 AM	#232
london lad Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: London Posts: 8,155 Likes (Received): 45	City Road hotel, Old Street, London by Squire and Partners 14 January, 2010 \| By Richard Waite Squire and Partners has submitted plans for a 247-room luxury boutique hotel opposite Moorfields Eye Hospital in City Road, London The scheme for Soneva Properties will feature a business centre for small and medium-sized local businesses on its first floor and a sky-bar on its 17th floor. Describing the design of the scheme, a spokesman for the practice said: ‘Responding to the Moorfields Eye Hospital opposite, and taking inspiration from the 1980’s artworks of Bridget Riley, the facade is expressed as a triple glazed skin enlivened with differing patterns of transparency, opacity and solidity to convey diagonal slopes breaking across an underlying vertical structure. ‘Manipulation and modulation of light, both internally and externally, give the facade richness and an ever-changing face on this prominent site, as well as assisting solar performance to create a sustainable development. The conjunction of the vertical and the diagonal create a visual effect of depth and movement, and express the activities taking place within the building.’

January 14th, 2010, 10:51 AM	#233
delores Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,564 Likes (Received): 25	Looks interesting and yet another hotel for London, obviously marketing towards the olympics. It almost looks gothic at night.

January 15th, 2010, 12:25 PM	#238
potto Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London Posts: 13,508 Likes (Received): 255	Indeed i wish these areas of London would take the bull by the horns and actually try and take London somewhere new rather than being subservient all the time, pussy footing about like the junior in Westminster planning dept.

January 15th, 2010, 11:01 PM	#239
Manuel Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 9,952 Likes (Received): 2	Fully agree, it the right place for a bit of Alsop subversion. Shame the project was dumped. The S&P is a bit conventionnal but its sharpness will be its saving grace in the arrogant department. A bit too much already for Westminster guys! __________________ >>>>>>>>>> Mon album Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/manuel69/<<<<<<<<<<

January 18th, 2010, 01:04 AM	#240
Langur Londinium langur Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: London Posts: 8,221 Likes (Received): 90	The Alsop design was crap and so is its replacement.

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