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Old October 13th, 2012, 03:34 PM   #141
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FOOLISH AUTHORITY OF ALGIERS

Algiers' great tram network was closed in December 1, 1959 for some blunt reasons –

“The infrastructure and fleet of the systems that closed service in the 1950's were usually in very bad condition. So it was easier and cheaper for the companies to change to bus-service because the cities made the streets often completely new in these days because of the many new cars. They also thought that there is no place for trams on the streets anymore and that the old and slowly trams will disturb the car- and bus-traffic.”

If you see to some other African, and many Asian cities, which is also very old, even older and congested than Algiers, was prevented the world’s sixties trend to close tram networks. They patiently improved their infrastructure & fleets step by step, and imported sometimes foreign trams also. They gradually increased their network with both reserved and unreserved track. Algiers could do that. By gradually improving rolling stocks looking those cities, they can maintain their network. Even my city Kolkata, where tram is under trouble, still has a good network.

1) The advent of buses and large scale competition meant that buses often ran the same routes as the trams and would jump in front in order to "grab" customers.

Buses are still present in Algiers, even much more than before. Aren’t they competing with tram now? If now tram can attract more people than bus, I think if Algiers Transport Authority should be patient, trams would sure survived, even defeat bus. Actually they started following other cities for withdrawing tram during fifties.

2) While buses were able to move into Algiers’ expanding hinterland quicker and at less cost that the trams.

Current tram network has expanded long distances, and the infrastructure is more expensive like bus (includes masts, wires, stops, etc.) But they are very popular for commuters than bus. If now they can re-make that costly infrastructure, why not past? Previous network was much ordinary than present. Actually they were lobbying the automobile industry, and the industry started marketing automobiles, like many cities around the world.

3) The belief that trams were outdated and old technology meanwhile,

If tram is really outdated, why the transport authority returned it in Algiers? It clearly shows that outdated technology idea was completely fake.

6) There was a belief that buses were cheaper to run than trams.

Although initial construction cost of tramway network is higher, but it is profitable for long term, because buses runs on diesel, which is being costly month by month over the world, and also decreasing from nature’s storage. Diesel can’t be made artificially, but electricity can make from various sources, like air, water, tide etc, so it is unlimited, and it is also pollution free.

7) The system was in a poor state of repair.

Many cities around the Asia & Africa, has maintained tram, struggling over World War 2, by investing seriously on track & rolling stocks. Even I live in Kolkata, but my city has still a good tram network. When Algiers closed their tram in 1959, Kolkata’s tram was on their peak position. So “impossible repairing” is just another lie.

6) The overcrowded and heaving trams running at a high frequency, in competition with growing private motor car and bus use, created congestion.

Buses are still present in Algiers, even much more than before. Aren’t they competing with tram now? If now tram can attract more people than bus, I think if Algiers Transport Authority should be patient, trams would sure survived, even defeat bus. It says that trams were overcrowded, it means were very popular among the citizens, and also ran on high frequency, means a reliable service. Actually they started following other cities for withdrawing tram during sixties.

9) Competition from the private car, private bus operators and the perception of traffic congestion led to the gradual closure of lines from the 1950s.

Despite the competition with automobile, they were very popular among citizens due to high frequency. Actually they were lobbying the automobile industry, and the industry started marketing automobiles, like many cities around the world.

10) Closure was supported by the authority, but generally went against public opinion.

It is very natural that ordinary people can’t be against with tram. Tram is pollution free, gentle and a status symbol of a civilized city. Even I live in Kolkata, but my city has still a good tram network. When Algiers closed their tram in 1959, Kolkata’s tram was on their peak position.

Algiers’ previous tram survived from 1896 to 1959 and closed for those fake reasons. Tram reopened in 2011. So are we sure that around 2074, Algiers will not again close its tram for some updated closure reasons?

Please also try to reply those question written just the previous post.
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Old October 13th, 2012, 05:05 PM   #142
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and the Algerian War of Independence and forced expulsion of Algerian Jews had nothing to do with it.....
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Old December 2nd, 2012, 06:31 PM   #143
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Hi! I´m from Argentina and I´m doing some research for my final project to be a Civil Engenieer. If someone can tell me this information about the Algiers tram it would be very useful to me:

Population and density of the city area and metro area.
Extension, number of lines, no of stations, passengers per day, comercial speed and operator.
Model(s) of rolling stock, quantity of trams or trains, length over buffers, width, traction motor output power, overhead lines or third rail, number of seats, number of standees and if it´s at 4 or 6 pass/m2.
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Old December 3rd, 2013, 09:36 AM   #145
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Algiers is continuously extending its tram network. Thanks Algiers, it is great.
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Old March 29th, 2014, 04:16 PM   #146
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Old March 30th, 2014, 02:24 PM   #147
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Algiers we love you and your trams...
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Old April 5th, 2014, 09:09 PM   #148
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How well does this system integrate with the metro? Can you use one fare card for both? Do they intersect as stations?
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How well does this system integrate with the metro? Can you use one fare card for both? Do they intersect as stations?


As you can see in this map, the subway (in blue) is connected to the tramline (in red) at the station "Les Fusillés". And indeed, you can use a special ticket and a special card (monthly) for both of those systems.


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Old April 6th, 2014, 08:48 PM   #151
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Thank you! Looks like a fantastic system that Algiers is implementing.
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Old April 6th, 2014, 08:59 PM   #152
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Thank you! Looks like a fantastic system that Algiers is implementing.


That's right, but there is still a lot of things to do. And since, we've been starting only a few years ago, it will take years and years to have an effective network in Algiers, notably for the extension of the underground, which needs very long works...
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Old April 8th, 2014, 12:36 PM   #153
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Could anyone write some details about the former tram network of Algiers, that was closed during fifties?
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Old April 8th, 2014, 04:51 PM   #154
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Could anyone write some details about the former tram network of Algiers, that was closed during fifties?
Algiers contained three different networks: the CFRA, the TMS and the TA. These three companies had well defined sectors of service and there was not enough connection between the respective lines. On the other hand, the technical standards of three companies were identical: running under 600 volts and gauge of 1,055 m. This unique and specific gauge of Algiers and doubtless Oran, would be the fruit of an error with order of the first railroad of Algeria. The person in charge of the command, ignoring that the space is given between internal faces of rails believed to make by giving the quotation between axes, that is 1,055 m. But, the supplier interpreted it as being the rib between faces of the rails.

These three companies had well defined sectors of services:

The CFRA had at the same moment an urban and vicinale network. They served by steam trains the back country of Algiers and a coastal line of Castiglione to Aïn Taya, 77 km long, with extensions towards Koléa on the West and Rovigo in the East. This line had been starting in 1892. In 1898, the central, urban section, of " Deux Moulins " at " Maison Carrée ", that is approximately 17 km, is electrified, and exploited by tramcars.
· The TMS runs since 1901 a line in strong hillside which rises of the town centre to El Biar, Chateauneuf and Ben Aknoun, in 9 km, on the first foothills of the hills of Sahel. A project of extension had to reach Chéraga, in 6 km and Douéra to 17 km of Chateauneuf. The war interrupted the project.

· The TA run since 1898 a long line parallel to that of the CFRA but in city, of Bab El Oued (Hopital du Dey) in the Boulevard Bru and in the colonne Voirol.
There were few connections between the respective lines.

In 1938, the TMS stops their activity. The line is resumed by the CFRA which convert it in trolleybus, better adapted to climbs and tight curves of Rovigo, on the line of El Biar. In 1938, after the good results of the line of trolleybus, the TA replace the trams of the Boulevard Bru and of the Colonne Voirol by trolleybuses, but maintain the tramways on the section Hôpital du Dey - Yusuf, with partial services. During a time, for reasons of savings of pneumatics, after the war, a line ‘Grande Poste’ – ‘Galliéni’ worked in correspondence with the trolleybuses of El Biar, Hydra and Boulevard Bru. On the other hand, trams were kept on lines following the Port of Algiers (CFRA) and on the chief artery of TA line of Yusuf).
The CFRA exploited their lines by means of reversible trains with big capacity trains of two motors surrounding a trailer.
But the most remarkable realization concerns the modernization of the line of TA: in 1934, the company placed order at the SATRAMO (Société Anonyme du Tramway Moderne) of a prototype modern articulated motor car, twenty metres long and gone up on a suspension sharply improved with regard to the previous materials. This car could transport 150 persons and contained doors with automatic lock with folding stepladders. In front of the success of this material, 25 cars were ordered and starting service in 1937. A project to put trams in subways in the town centre had been accepted and launched, but interrupted by the war in 1939, and never relaunched. The SATRAMO had been studied in this optics but continued to assure a good service in surface.
In any case, the articulated SATRAMO will represent the most modern French material until 1950. Curiously, mainland France ignored totally this type of articulated car.
Nevertheless, after 1945, the traffic became intrusive in Algiers. The CFRA transforms the long line of tram of Deux Moulins for the exploitation by trolleybus. Then, by 1950, it is the line of Kouba, in strong hillside, and the long line of Maison Carrée which, bit by bit, pass to trolleybus. The line of Ruisseau, exploited with reversible cars with big capacity, is maintained until spring, 1957 then run by bus.
The last line of TA, equipped with engines SATRAMO, will not delay too, to know a disastrous fate: in spite of a good general state, tramcars are partially replaced by buses on September 12th, 1959, between the boulevard of Provence and the Hospital of Dey (line 3). So disappeared the only French articulated cars and the fleuron of one of the best tramway networks. TA never found a buyer for a material nevertheless still capable of a long service.
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Old April 9th, 2014, 12:29 PM   #155
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I first knew such a description about former network. Is it possble to draw a map on the above map, comparing with new network? It will be very much helpful to such tramfans like me.
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From Rail Journal:

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Algiers light rail extension inaugurated
Wednesday, April 16, 2014

ALGERIA's transport minister Mr Amar Ghoul inaugurated the 4.2km eastern extension of Algiers light rail Line 1 from Bordj El Kiffan to Kahouat Echergui on April 16.

The extension has six stations and services operate at seven or eight-minute intervals.

Commissioning is also underway on a further 2.7km extension from Kahouat Echergui to Dergana, which is due to open in July. Around 185,000 passengers per day are expected to use Line 1 when the section to Dergana is fully operational.

The initial 7.2km phase of the line opened in May 2011 and the 9.1km second phase from Les Bananiers to Lycée and Les Fusillés was commissioned in June 2012.

Feasibility studies are underway into the construction of a further 4.6km western extension to Bir Mourad Rais.
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Updated map on urbanrail.net:

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