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Old July 8th, 2016, 01:27 AM   #121
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Hi everybody!

wanted to ask: which are the possibilities to go by train from S. Petersburg to Moscow? I mean the frequences, the costs and first of all the duration of the journey

I'm living in S. Petersburg for 3 weeks in August, and I was thinking of having a week end in Moscow
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Old July 8th, 2016, 02:35 AM   #122
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Seats are all reserved, so no point of asking for frequencies. There just few trains. So mostly gets reserved weeks before.
https://pass.rzd.ru/timetable/public...captcha=865416
https://rasp.yandex.ru/search/?fromI...SpeedTrain=258
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Old July 8th, 2016, 12:43 PM   #123
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wanted to ask: which are the possibilities to go by train from S. Petersburg to Moscow? I mean the frequences, the costs and first of all the duration of the journey
Have a look at those pages : http://www.seat61.com/Russia-trains.htm#Moscow to St Petersburg by train

It contains pointers to on-line scheduling information, and describes the type
of trains that you can find on this route.
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Old July 9th, 2016, 01:20 AM   #124
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Seats are all reserved, so no point of asking for frequencies. There just few trains. So mostly gets reserved weeks before.
https://pass.rzd.ru/timetable/public...captcha=865416
https://rasp.yandex.ru/search/?fromI...SpeedTrain=258
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Have a look at those pages : http://www.seat61.com/Russia-trains.htm#Moscow to St Petersburg by train

It contains pointers to on-line scheduling information, and describes the type
of trains that you can find on this route.

thank you both!
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Old July 9th, 2016, 07:48 PM   #125
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. So mostly gets reserved weeks before.
That's a bit of an overstatement! The busiest night trains are those from Friday to Monday nights and those around Russian holidays. That said, there is usually something available even just a few days before. Platzkart (3rd class) tends to sell out first, but I've bought 2nd class tickets on the day of travel on a Friday before. You just might not get your first choice train.

Mid-week I've been on trains that couldn't have been 20% full.

The day-time Sapsan train does seem to be much busier, and often does sell out. Though to say you have to buy weeks in advance is a bit of an overstatement too.

Seat61 is an AMAZING website. I can wholeheartedly recommend it!

I don't know where you're from, but Russian train fares are noticeably cheaper than those of any Western European country.
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Old July 15th, 2016, 12:48 PM   #126
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From Railway Gazette:

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Sinara and CRRC sign Russian high speed train agreement
15 Jul 2016



RUSSIA: An agreement to establish a Russian joint venture for the production of high speed rolling stock capable of speeds above 300 km/h has been signed by Sinara Group Chairman Dmitry Pumpyansky and CRRC President Xi Guohua.

The companies envisage manufacturing at least 100 high speed trainsets in Russia, with CRRC responsible for design, planning, quality control and technical support. The initial focus would be on supplying trains for the planned 770 km Moscow – Kazan high speed line

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Old July 19th, 2016, 08:01 PM   #127
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Hi everybody!

wanted to ask: which are the possibilities to go by train from S. Petersburg to Moscow? I mean the frequences, the costs and first of all the duration of the journey

I'm living in S. Petersburg for 3 weeks in August, and I was thinking of having a week end in Moscow
In addition to the other comments I'd recommend to use the site tutu.ru for bookings if you speak a little russian (they have an english version as well, but it's not as detailed). Train prices tend to stay pretty stable until about a week before the date of travel, after that they tend to double. That being said, you can book a 2nd class ticket for the Sapsan during the week for less than 3000 roubles if you book more than a week ahead.
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Old July 29th, 2016, 11:38 AM   #128
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From Rail Journal:

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Evraz develops new high-speed rail for Russia
Thursday, July 28, 2016



EVRAZ has almost completed development of a new rail for use on the planned Moscow - Kazan high-speed line which is intended to have a maximum speed of 400km/h

“This rail will be suitable for high-speed trains with speeds up to 400 km/h and an axleload of up to 170kN, ordinary 200km/h passenger trains with a 226kN axleload, and special 160km/h container trains with an axleload of up to 210kN,” says Mr Ilya Shirokobrod, vice-president, sales and logistics, with Evraz. “It means that the average axleload will be about 30% higher than on other high-speed lines in the world”

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Old November 19th, 2017, 01:31 PM   #129
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Passengers

1,000 Miles de millones de Viajeros.km = 1 billion passengers-km

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Old December 26th, 2017, 06:22 PM   #130
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Over 26,000 passengers carried on international trains Nos. 13/14 Strizh Moscow-Berlin in first year
The international trains Nos. 13/14 Strizh Moscow-Berlin were launched one year ago.

In the first year of operations, the trains made more than 100 runs and carried over 26,000 passengers.

The Strizh service runs twice a week, departing from Moscow on Fridays and Sundays and from Berlin on Saturdays and Mondays.

The Russia - Germany service is popular with passengers using long-distance trains: during January-November 2017, passenger traffic on this route increased by 17.9%.

Each train includes 20 wagons produced by the Spanish company Patentes Talgo, S.L.

All the trains are equipped with a system which automatically changes the width of wheel sets. This technology makes for a considerable reduction in the time taken to switch from the broad Russian railway gauge of 1520 mm to the narrower European gauge of 1435 mm at Brest station in Belorussia.
http://eng.rzd.ru/newse/public/en?ST...=704&id=107206
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Old December 26th, 2017, 09:53 PM   #131
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A very good occupation.
It is a train that only circulates twice a week (it takes 20 hours), so in a year there have been about 104 trains, so the average is 250 passengers for a train that only has 216 places:

2 VIP-class (5 double VIP-coupe, equipped with a shower and toilet)
3 VIP-class (2 double VIP-coupe, equipped with a shower and bath + coupe for people with disabilities)
4 First class sleeping cars (6 coupes - 12 seats)
2 First Class (seats, for intermediate journeys)
5 Second class sleeping cars (4 quad coupe + 1 coupe two-seater)
1 Restaurant
1 Bistro
2 Technical wagons (generators)
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Old December 27th, 2017, 03:51 AM   #132
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Need to clarify. 104 trains, this is 104 flights (there and back - 208 trains). As a result, it turns out that 125 passengers per train (216 seats on the train). Fillability - More than half.
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Old December 27th, 2017, 12:08 PM   #133
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Train #023 Moscow – Berlin: Tuesday
Train #024 Berlin – Moscow: Friday
Source: Russian Railways.
365 / 7 = 52
52 * 2 = 104
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Old December 27th, 2017, 01:44 PM   #134
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Need to clarify. 104 trains, this is 104 flights (there and back - 208 trains). As a result, it turns out that 125 passengers per train (216 seats on the train). Fillability - More than half.
may be it is not so good
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Old December 27th, 2017, 08:20 PM   #135
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Moscow – Berlin: Tuesday
Train #024 Berlin – Moscow: Friday

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departing from Moscow on Fridays and Sundays and from Berlin on Saturdays and Mondays.
52 * 4 = 208
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Old December 30th, 2017, 11:11 AM   #138
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It's not "high speed"
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Old December 30th, 2017, 01:09 PM   #139
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RZD does consider it HS despite circulating at 160. See the official statistics in this message on this page.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=129
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Old December 30th, 2017, 03:04 PM   #140
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RZD does consider it HS despite circulating at 160. See the official statistics in this message on this page.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=129
Officially in Russia high speed trains - those that travel at 200 km/h and faster. Trains from 140 to 199 km/h are called "skorostnoy" - that should be translated as "speed" train, not "high speed".

And in the message you referred, Lastochka trains are marked as NOT high speed. Look at "total alta velocidad" column - it summarizes high speed data which does not include Lastochka column.

In fact 160 km/h is not something unusual for other trains too, and the table for some reason does not contain them though. I.e. Nevskiy Express train goes at 200 km/h, and it is not in the table.
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