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Old September 14th, 2007, 01:30 AM   #3281
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This tower photographs exceptionally well, day or night. The diagonal support beams give it an all new structural expression at night that reminds of both BOC in Hong Kong and John Hancock in Chicago.

And that September 10th picture that null posted really demonstrates the density of Lujiazui
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Old September 14th, 2007, 02:09 AM   #3282
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Agree totally, the trend is really worrying, the developed nowdays have become more and more auto-orientated and american like.

In addition, the process of erosion from automobiles is a POSITIVE FEED BACK which means its action will intensify the conditions for the next action, therefore as it progress, it will be more and more unrealistic to reduce the dependency on automobiles, like a drug. precisely.

You'd think the government can just stop it when it gets enough, but they can't, it's not like a switch you can just turn on and off, the erosion will get faster and faster.
I agree with you two fairies.....horrible America!! Where do you types come from? You seem to be springing up all over the world. It's like the 'in' thing to hate and disregard all things American. Well......the old saying is that "imitation is the highest form of flattery"....so why is it so many places all over the world are emulating the US? (I assume by American...you mean the US )....with their skyscrapers and highways and other superstructures.
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Old September 14th, 2007, 01:44 PM   #3283
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The tower is great, but the air pollution in Shanghai is astounding and appalling. The Chinese need pass something akin to the Clean Air Act.
It's actually nowhere near as bad now as it was two years ago. And with more and more metro lines opening (3 more by the end of the year, plus the completion of line 4) that should get more Chinese out of their cars and onto public transit, which will help as well.
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Old September 14th, 2007, 02:20 PM   #3284
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I agree with you two fairies.....horrible America!! Where do you types come from? You seem to be springing up all over the world. It's like the 'in' thing to hate and disregard all things American. Well......the old saying is that "imitation is the highest form of flattery"....so why is it so many places all over the world are emulating the US? (I assume by American...you mean the US )....with their skyscrapers and highways and other superstructures.
Emulate who? Skyscrapers were invented by the Chinese, highways by the Chinese as well - or the Romans.
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Old September 14th, 2007, 02:35 PM   #3285
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so why is it so many places all over the world are emulating the US? (I assume by American...you mean the US )....with their skyscrapers and highways and other superstructures.
Constructing skyscrapers is an immitation of America? So, everytime you write a number you are immitating the Arabs, right? lol.
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Old September 14th, 2007, 03:24 PM   #3286
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Mori sells 10% of tallest China bldg to M.Stanley

SHANGHAI, Sept 13 (Reuters) - Japan's Mori Building Group has sold a 10 percent stake in China's tallest building, the 125 billion yen ($1.1 billion) Shanghai World Financial Centre, to investment bank Morgan Stanley , the group's president Minoru Mori said on Thursday.

Mori Group expects to charge the highest rents in China for the 101 storey tower, in which it now holds a 70 percent stake, and to recoup its investment within 15 years, he added.

"We will be a price leader," Mori told reporters, adding that rents would start at about $3 per square metre per day.

"Shanghai is growing rapidly and may one day surpass Hong Kong or even Tokyo."

Mori said he saw no need to sell an additional stake in the building.

Demand for prime office space has pushed rents higher in Shanghai, especially in the financial district, as global companies rush to open or expand offices in the Chinese financial hub.

Japan's Mizuho Corporate Bank and Sumitomo Mitsui Banking Corp have already signed on as tenants in the centre and the group is in talks with potential western clients such as Morgan Stanley, JPMorgan and Lehman Brothers , Mori said.

He expected the occupancy rate to be about 90 percent within one year of operation.

The skyscraper, in Shanghai's Lujiazui financial district, will be topped out on Friday and open for business early next year.

Some analysts have warned, however, that the financial district is set for a surge in supply, with 28 office towers due to be completed in the next three years.

The district has attracted developers including Hong Kong's Sun Hung Kai Properties and billionaire Li Ka-shing's Cheung Kong (Holdings) Ltd .

Construction on the Shanghai World Financial Centre started in 1997 but was halted the following year due to the Asian financial crisis and a downturn in the Shanghai property market.

Encouraged by China's entry into the World Trade Organisation in 2001 and a recovery in the country's real estate market, Mori resumed construction in 2003.
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Old September 14th, 2007, 05:22 PM   #3287
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Emulate who? Skyscrapers were invented by the Chinese, highways by the Chinese as well - or the Romans.
Actually the earliest structures that could be possibly called 'skyscrapers' were first built in Sumeria and Egypt. The modern highway , as we know it, was first developed in Germany. The modern skyscraper as we know it was first built in Chicago and NYC and the although the concept of a highway was developed in Germany, it was the US that first built them everywhere and used them to the extent that I'm referring to. So dont try that bullshit argument with me. Of course many civilizations throughout history have borrowed from one another to an extent.....but the type of building/infastructure you're referring to is clearly a type that has been pioneered in the US. "KisstheRain" even said it in his post.....'China is following the American, autocentric model'....so go rethink your post.
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Old September 14th, 2007, 05:37 PM   #3288
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Constructing skyscrapers is an immitation of America? So, everytime you write a number you are immitating the Arabs, right? lol.
Grow up...
I know right!!....LOL!! Without a doubt, cultures throughout history have borrowed from one another, but the type of development discussed in the previous post is a style uniquely American. Even the person who posted the comment said so. The highway -- first developed in Germany. The first MODERN skyscraper -- built in Chicago and althought the first modern highway was built in Germany, the US was the first to build them to the extent that many countries have/are today. So go try another argument pal. Oh and the Arabs werent the ones to develop the concept of a number but I dont feel like educating you on that right now.
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Old September 14th, 2007, 05:53 PM   #3289
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Don't make this thread argumentative. Go back to the topic please.

Any news if its officially topped out?
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Old September 14th, 2007, 06:12 PM   #3290
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I know right!!....LOL!! Without a doubt, cultures throughout history have borrowed from one another, but the type of development discussed in the previous post is a style uniquely American. Even the person who posted the comment said so. The highway -- first developed in Germany.
Exactly! So, following your line of reasoning, the US would be imitating Nazi Germany. Isn't that absurd? Errr... umm...

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Old September 14th, 2007, 06:27 PM   #3291
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The Shanghai Daily also has a report on the official topping out ceremony!

Shanghai skyline gets new tallest landmark

THE Shanghai World Financial Center officially topped off this morning at 492 meters in height as its last beam was laid, making it the tallest building on the mainland.

Twenty guests screwed 20 golden bolts on to two steel beams, which were installed on the 101st floor of the center to mark the completion of frame of the city's newest landmark.

The financial center, a wedge-shaped tower with a rectangular hole at the very top, covers a floor area of 381,600 square meters and will eventually house 70 floors of office space meant to accommodate 12,000 people

Building planners said they will set up a grand hotel from the 78th floor to 93rd floor, which will also be home to a Chinese restaurant.

Besides, "the world's highest" swimming pool will be located on the 85th floor and an observatory sits on the 100th floor 472 meter high, making it the world's tallest spot in a building that human beings can reach.

Currently, the world's tallest observatory is located in the CN Tower in Toronto at a height of 447 meters.

The building, expected to be completed in March next year, is equipped with 126 elevators with a maximum speed of 10 meters per second, making them the fastest in China.

Minoru Mori, whose flagship company Mori Building Co of Tokyo holds a 70 percent stake of the tower, said that the building's rental space will go for a whopping US$3 per square meter every day, which is the highest rent in the city.

He made the remarks this morning at Shanghai's Jinmao Tower, a silver spire next door to the World Financial Center that at 421 meters was mainland's tallest building until now.

Potential tenants for the 70 floors of office space include JPMorgan, Lehman Brothers and BNP Paribas, he said. Japan's Mizuho Corporate Bank and Sumitomo Mitsui Banking Corp will also be accommodated, he added.
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Old September 14th, 2007, 06:36 PM   #3292
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I'm interested in seeing them remove the temporary supports -- they should fly an airplane through the hole as part of the opening ceremony. Does anybody know whether the hole will sport its own elevators on either side, or will an express elevator reach the top level?

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I agree with you two fairies.....horrible America!! Where do you types come from? You seem to be springing up all over the world. It's like the 'in' thing to hate and disregard all things American.
I sprang up in Houston, Texas. As a conservative American, can I not criticize one of the greatest American policy failures of the 20th century? What did you think I am, a socialist European? The problem is, so many countries imitate our urban planning because we are a terrible role model. We helped promote cars as a status symbol, and now there is no going back. I feel sorry for the millions of Chinese (and people of other countries) that believe sprawl is somehow good for them and their economy; once sprawl is built, it is too late to regret.
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Old September 14th, 2007, 07:19 PM   #3293
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Exactly! So, following your line of reasoning, the US would be imitating Nazi Germany. Isn't that absurd? Errr... umm...

Well....I see you're not intelligent enough to come up with a decent counterpoint....so.....sure why not!!
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Old September 14th, 2007, 07:44 PM   #3294
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If you people are so interested in politics, why not open a seperate thread and talk about your american german politics there.
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Old September 14th, 2007, 08:15 PM   #3295
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Oh ! Amazing photos, must be really exciting enjoying such a ceremony !
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Old September 14th, 2007, 08:22 PM   #3296
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yeah I heard from the news that they use the golden bolts for the last steel beam, it's really cool!
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Old September 14th, 2007, 08:23 PM   #3297
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The Shanghai Daily also has a report on the official topping out ceremony!

Shanghai skyline gets new tallest landmark

THE Shanghai World Financial Center officially topped off this morning at 492 meters in height as its last beam was laid, making it the tallest building on the mainland.

Twenty guests screwed 20 golden bolts on to two steel beams, which were installed on the 101st floor of the center to mark the completion of frame of the city's newest landmark.

The financial center, a wedge-shaped tower with a rectangular hole at the very top, covers a floor area of 381,600 square meters and will eventually house 70 floors of office space meant to accommodate 12,000 people

Building planners said they will set up a grand hotel from the 78th floor to 93rd floor, which will also be home to a Chinese restaurant.

Besides, "the world's highest" swimming pool will be located on the 85th floor and an observatory sits on the 100th floor 472 meter high, making it the world's tallest spot in a building that human beings can reach.

Currently, the world's tallest observatory is located in the CN Tower in Toronto at a height of 447 meters.

The building, expected to be completed in March next year, is equipped with 126 elevators with a maximum speed of 10 meters per second, making them the fastest in China.

Minoru Mori, whose flagship company Mori Building Co of Tokyo holds a 70 percent stake of the tower, said that the building's rental space will go for a whopping US$3 per square meter every day, which is the highest rent in the city.

He made the remarks this morning at Shanghai's Jinmao Tower, a silver spire next door to the World Financial Center that at 421 meters was mainland's tallest building until now.

Potential tenants for the 70 floors of office space include JPMorgan, Lehman Brothers and BNP Paribas, he said. Japan's Mizuho Corporate Bank and Sumitomo Mitsui Banking Corp will also be accommodated, he added.
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Old September 14th, 2007, 08:25 PM   #3298
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I don't know if you have seen these pics...

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Old September 14th, 2007, 09:07 PM   #3299
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nice pics i thought they were up at the top tightening the bolts that would have been even better.
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