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Old October 7th, 2008, 08:56 AM   #7061
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Old October 7th, 2008, 09:29 AM   #7062
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Old October 7th, 2008, 04:20 PM   #7063
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Old October 7th, 2008, 04:28 PM   #7064
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ahhhhhhhh weeepaa =D does two last pics are mind blowing!! thanks..
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Old October 7th, 2008, 04:39 PM   #7065
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Old October 7th, 2008, 07:11 PM   #7066
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Old October 7th, 2008, 09:06 PM   #7067
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That's an amazing picture, could I have the large version please?
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Have to say I liked the circle top better too
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Old October 7th, 2008, 09:34 PM   #7068
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What a great tower. The photography is stunning in this thread! Thanks for that.
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Old October 7th, 2008, 10:07 PM   #7069
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The circle would've looked horrible, doesn't fit with rest of design and would make it look messy too.

New design is much better.
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Old October 7th, 2008, 10:29 PM   #7070
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Old October 7th, 2008, 11:01 PM   #7071
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Man, all the pictures of WTFC and JinMao are breath taken.
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Old October 7th, 2008, 11:29 PM   #7072
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Just found an article which explains that the skyscrapers in Pudong or marsh land could worsen the sea level rise.

http://www.tehrantimes.com/index_View.asp?code=179418
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Old October 8th, 2008, 02:11 AM   #7073
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simply stunning!!

any pic of the hotel inside the biulding??
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Old October 8th, 2008, 05:34 AM   #7074
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simply stunning!!

any pic of the hotel inside the biulding??
still not, wanna know which style of decoration they apply.
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Old October 8th, 2008, 08:34 AM   #7075
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Shanghai highrises could worsen threat of rising seas

SHANGHAI (Reuters) - Shanghai, China's most populous city and an aspiring global financial center, is also among the world's most vulnerable urban areas to a rise in sea levels as global warming melts polar ice.

Its location on a low-lying alluvial plain near the mouth of Asia's longest river, the Yangtze, had already left it prone, but researchers warn that forests of skyscrapers sprouting across the ambitious metropolis could compound the threat by causing its marshy ground to sink.

"Shanghai came from the ocean, and has been facing the threat of rising sea levels," said Wang Pingxian, a member of the prestigious China Academy of Sciences and professor of ocean geology at Tongji University in Shanghai.

"The rising sea level is a worldwide problem, caused by global warming, but Shanghai and Tianjin, among China's coastal cities, face the biggest challenge, mainly because of land subsidence," Wang said as part of the Reuters Global Environment Summit.

Sinking ground levels have long been a headache for Shanghai, although the culprit has traditionally been the pumping of ground water to support its rapid growth and industrialization.

The dyke along Shanghai's riverfront Bund, which protects a mile of historic granite buildings from the waters of the Huangpu River, has been raised three times -- by nearly 2 meters (about 7 feet) -- over the past four decades.

Shanghai drilled its first deep well on the Bund in 1860, and as industrial development and ground water use accelerated, the city sank 1.76 meters between 1921 and 1965, or an average of about 4 centimeters a year.

As early as the 1960s, the Shanghai government began addressing the problem by pumping some of its treated water supply, which is now taken largely from the Huangpu River rather than from ground water, back below the surface.

THAT SINKING FEELING

Land subsidence eased substantially and ground levels even began rising in the 1970s when the government was particularly active in pumping water back, but sinking set in once more in the 1990s as the city set out on a frantic building boom.

The city has further tightened its restrictions on ground water use since 2006 and plans to ban use of ground water entirely for non-drinking purposes by 2010, when it expects to be pumping 50 million cubic meters of water (1.8 billion cubic feet) per year underground.

That compares with the 17.3 million cubic meters of water it pumped underground in 2007, when it pulled out 43.8 million cubic meters of ground water. At its peak, the city pumped out 200 million cubic meters of ground water a year.

As a result of strict regulation of ground water usage, Shanghai sank only 6.8 millimeters in 2007, or 0.5 millimeter less than a year earlier, a government report said.

But while the city moves to stop the ground from being pulled down as ground water is sucked out, researchers now worry that the ground is being pushed down as masses of skyscrapers are plopped down across the urban landscape.

"(Land subsidence) is more serious in areas where groundwater is heavily used, or highrise density is high," said Xu Shiyuan, a professor of geology at East China Normal University.

There are about 10,000 buildings with more than 10 floors in Shanghai, of which 80 percent have been built in the past 10 years, according to Emporis, one of the world's leading providers of building information.

"Land subsidence caused by construction of highrises and underground projects will be a key issue in the future," said a professor at a research institute affiliated to the government in Shanghai, who declined to be named because his institute does not allow researchers to talk to the media.

He said that, although a single highrise building could only cause ground in adjacent areas to subside marginally, dense blocks of highrises could press the soil in sand layers underneath, and contribute to ground sinking over a large area.

"It's a very difficult problem, and we haven't found any effective solutions," he said.

PILING ON THE PRESSURE?

Some researchers said, however, that highrise construction would cause only minor land subsidence and could be limited by technical innovations, although worries would remain that uneven subsidence could damage bridges and tunnels.

"One can't generalize the situation and say highrises are going to have a more significant impact on land subsidence. It's rather a case-by-case scenario," said Xu of East China Normal University.

David Scott, chairman of the Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat, and a principal with engineering firm Arup's New York operations, added: "The weight of big buildings is generally not a big problem." Deep basements can help to offset the weight of large buildings, he said.

Arrays of piles can also mitigate pressure from the weight of buildings.

The developer of the 492-meter (1,614-ft) Shanghai World Financial Center, which at its opening in late August surpassed the neighboring Jin Mao Tower as China's tallest building, said it was not contributing to the land subsidence problem.

"Our building is not causing land to sink," said Michiho Kishi, a spokesman for Mori Building.

The clay layer -- firmer ground more than 100 meters underneath the building -- has sunk nearly 120 millimeters (five inches) since construction started, far less than the limit of 250 millimeters set by the government's construction code, Kishi said.

The city itself seems unfazed, with plans to build the 632-meter Shanghai Center, next to the other two towers.
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Old October 8th, 2008, 09:32 AM   #7076
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already posted that, but it makes sense.
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Old October 8th, 2008, 07:09 PM   #7077
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Hmm that's bad. If it came from a rising river like in my region, you could simply add flooding zones (widening it) or possibly even a dam away from the city, but sea levels...
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Old October 8th, 2008, 09:00 PM   #7078
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stop whining, my city is below sea level and I never had any troubles yet.
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Old October 8th, 2008, 09:21 PM   #7079
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