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Old October 25th, 2008, 01:16 PM   #7161
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the color of the river depends on the weather of that day as well
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Old October 25th, 2008, 02:17 PM   #7162
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The city just happens to be built on the river, and for good reason. The Yangtze is one of the busiest rivers in the world in terms of river traffic (I think 2nd after the Mississippi).
Err... true, but I think you're reversing cause and effect. The Yangtze is so busy because Shanghai and other big cities were built along it "some time ago".
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Old October 25th, 2008, 08:16 PM   #7163
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The city just happens to be built on the river, and for good reason. The Yangtze is one of the busiest rivers in the world in terms of river traffic (I think 2nd after the Mississippi).

Although the water probably is quite filthy, even in it's "cleanest" state the Yangtze is still going to be brown. Except during the amazing annual reverse current Hangzhou Bay Tidal Bore.
Yangtze River doesn't flow through the city of Shanghai, the rive in the picture is Huangpu.
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Old October 25th, 2008, 09:00 PM   #7164
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Yangtze River doesn't flow through the city of Shanghai, the rive in the picture is Huangpu.
Not true, Yangtze flows along Shanghai's northern-eastern periphery and boat traffic originating in Shanghai is carried through it.
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Old October 26th, 2008, 07:50 AM   #7165
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Not true, Yangtze flows along Shanghai's northern-eastern periphery and boat traffic originating in Shanghai is carried through it.
I mean the 'city of Shanghai', which means the urban area.
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Old October 26th, 2008, 08:21 AM   #7166
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Err... true, but I think you're reversing cause and effect. The Yangtze is so busy because Shanghai and other big cities were built along it "some time ago".
Actually Shanghai only developed into a major city in the last 150 years or so, young by Chinese standards. The Yangtze basin developed into the economic centre of China around 1000 years ago.
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Yangtze River doesn't flow through the city of Shanghai, the rive in the picture is Huangpu.
True, but it's part of the same watershed. Anyways you are correct.
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Old October 26th, 2008, 08:36 AM   #7167
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Old October 26th, 2008, 02:34 PM   #7168
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im proud of shanghai too <3 the city is so vibrant
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Old October 26th, 2008, 02:45 PM   #7169
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I mean the 'city of Shanghai', which means the urban area.
You mentioned the "city of Shanghai", I was talking about "Shanghai" in the first place. And Shanghai does border the Yangtze. Also, Baoshan is "urban area".
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Actually Shanghai only developed into a major city in the last 150 years or so, young by Chinese standards. The Yangtze basin developed into the economic centre of China around 1000 years ago.
Oh my. We are not talking about how busy the Yangtze was 1000 years ago, we are talking about how busy it is now. Anyway Shanghai has been a major port since the Song dinasty, about 900-1000 A.D.
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Old October 26th, 2008, 03:28 PM   #7170
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Old October 26th, 2008, 05:00 PM   #7171
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thnx, very nice pics.

What are those tiny white lights in ur second pic? They're too small to be rooms.
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Old October 26th, 2008, 06:37 PM   #7172
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Old October 26th, 2008, 11:43 PM   #7173
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hehe, touché.
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Old October 27th, 2008, 12:59 AM   #7174
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i would love to be in that obs tower right now!
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Old October 27th, 2008, 01:14 AM   #7175
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this building is awesome.one of the best completed buildings.surely in my top 5
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Old October 27th, 2008, 06:58 AM   #7176
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Oh my. We are not talking about how busy the Yangtze was 1000 years ago, we are talking about how busy it is now.
The chronology of this discussion goes like this: I replied to a post questioning the wisdom of building a major city near a muddy river, explaining that the Yangtze basin was a major shipping conduit for centuries. The water was always been muddy, who cares. Your post in reply to this said:
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Err... true, but I think you're reversing cause and effect. The Yangtze is so busy because Shanghai and other big cities were built along it "some time ago".
Since I'm not talking about "other cities" and only Shanghai itself, my argument is that Shanghai developed into the city it is today due to the wealth of the Yangtze valley. The location developed into the leading city of China because it was at the river mouth of one of the wealthiest areas of China and had good access to the increasingly important international oceanic trade in the 1800's.
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Anyway Shanghai has been a major port since the Song dinasty, about 900-1000 A.D.
Shanghai was totally overshadowed by Hangzhou and Suzhou during the Song Dynasty. It was a small town that barely registered. It only gained prominence during the mid to late Qing Dynasty.
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Old October 27th, 2008, 07:18 AM   #7177
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The chronology of this discussion goes like this: I replied to a post questioning the wisdom of building a major city near a muddy river, explaining that the Yangtze basin was a major shipping conduit for centuries.
No sir, in the first post you said "The Yangtze is one of the busiest rivers in the world in terms of river traffic (I think 2nd after the Mississippi)". See the present tense?
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The location developed into the leading city of China because it was at the river mouth of one of the wealthiest areas of China and had good access to the increasingly important international oceanic trade in the 1800's.
...and no one denies this.
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Shanghai was totally overshadowed by Hangzhou and Suzhou during the Song Dynasty. It was a small town that barely registered. It only gained prominence during the mid to late Qing Dynasty.
So four or five centuries ago, in your book, is not (I'm quoting myself) "some time ago"?
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Old October 27th, 2008, 02:23 PM   #7178
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What is next skyscraper planned for shanghai city??
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Old October 27th, 2008, 02:35 PM   #7179
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thnx, very nice pics.

What are those tiny white lights in ur second pic? They're too small to be rooms.
They are flashing "diods" that are part of the buildings lighting scheme, which I photographed and posted on the forums back in July!. Haven't really seen pics/videos of it since though, so it might be a lighting feature that is for special occasions or something. Anyway, there are thousands of those small lights around the trapezoid, and they flash/blink at a high speed.
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Old October 27th, 2008, 03:30 PM   #7180
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Anyway, there are thousands of those small lights around the trapezoid, and they flash/blink at a high speed.
Someting like on Eiffel Tower?
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