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Old September 27th, 2008, 08:57 PM   #161
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Oh, and FYI a co-worker of mine who took a tour this week said that the airport authority hasn't been able to raise funds yet for the IND sculpture. Hopefully that will get completed at some point since it is a great work.
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Old September 28th, 2008, 09:40 AM   #162
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They need to focus on getting a good hotel and forget that dang sculpture :-)

My tour is 1pm on the 11th. I think. I can't see dragging myself out at 10am on a weekend. That means I have to set an alarm and that just seems wrong.
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Old October 3rd, 2008, 01:55 AM   #163
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9 picture tour of the new airport terminal. looks like theres hella signage, the concourses look cluttered with them.

http://www2.indystar.com/autofocus/g...es/show/3867/1
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Old October 3rd, 2008, 04:27 AM   #164
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9 picture tour of the new airport terminal. looks like theres hella signage, the concourses look cluttered with them.

http://www2.indystar.com/autofocus/g...es/show/3867/1

Wow, that looks absolutely amazing. Two big projects opening in the same year.
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Old October 3rd, 2008, 02:21 PM   #165
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I think the place looks great. Very European. I just hope the drainage doesn't fail :-)
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Old October 12th, 2008, 11:58 PM   #166
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Tons of pics I took at Community Days. Just look at my flickr page.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/
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Old October 13th, 2008, 05:27 AM   #167
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the attention to detail at the airport is mind boggling. The furniture in civic plaza is so modern, does anyone know if that stage with the video curtain behind it will be permanent in the plaza?
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Old October 13th, 2008, 09:11 AM   #168
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Tons of pics I took at Community Days. Just look at my flickr page.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/
Nice. You got to tour the customs/field inspection station. It was closed when I got there.

Here is my photo set from the tour. Same day you went. Just a little later in the day.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rofl_in...7607938782312/
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Old October 14th, 2008, 11:50 PM   #169
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The nicest feature about the new airport is its location between the runways.

I've never been to an airport where you had such good views of planes landing and taking off from virtually everywhere in the airport. It's got a great sense of place. Our humble skyline was also quite prominent in the north view, which adds to that sense of place.

While I agree with Arenn that there's nothing particularly unique about the building itself, I'd argue that the layout of the entire airport is something unique and worth bragging about. It's extremely functionally and logically laid out. A 90-year-old could navigate it with ease.

I'm curious what everyone who toured it thinks about it compared to the other airports they've visited.
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Old October 15th, 2008, 12:49 AM   #170
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I toured it and loved it. You could see some similarities between it and the big terminal in Detroit. No shock since it was built by the same company. That would also explain the strange corridor between the parking garage and terminal. Anyone who has visited the tunnel in Detroit will know what I mean. But the overall design itself is unique to the U.S. It has a very European feel to it. I've heard some say it reminds them of AMS. I don't know if they are talking about the signs or what. Having been to a number of European airports and U.S. airports I'd say it does have more in common with a European airport than a U.S. one.

The one thing I noticed as being a problem was a lack of escalators leading in to the terminal from the garage. Basically you had only one leading you on but two leading you out to the garage from the terminal. That move makes absolutely no sense. Also the designers painted themselves into a corner with international arrivals. From now until the end of time the customs/field inspection stations can't handle more than 400 passengers in an hour. There is no provision for expanding it. They are making the assumption that nothing will ever change that would cause the airport to need better international passenger processing. A loaded 744 would push the limits of international arrivals. A loaded A380 would be a nightmare. And that is just one flight. Who wants to spend 90 minutes trying to clear customs? Also the baggage claim in customs was poorly designed. It basically wraps 3 walls in a room. That means everyone is packed in the middle. Not a good system.

But other than those things the design was great.
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Old October 15th, 2008, 01:53 AM   #171
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The airport is woefully lacking from an architecture standpoint when compared to, say, Madrid Barajas, which might be the nicest airport in the world. However, that airport is a PITA since you've got to take a tram to the remote terminal, and the baggage claim takes forever. Madrid is awesome physically but lacking on functionality.

The new IND terminal reminds me of MDW. Namely, very very nice, but functional and not distinctive.

To me the lights in the passageway from the garage are a ripoff of the O'Hare ribbons of light piece in terminal one, right down to the cheesy music.

But consider this: Indy's airport experience blows away LGR, LAX, LHR, the old terminal at CDG, etc. While they did not up the architectural ante, very few major cities have yet. Personally, I think it outclasses the vast majority of the airports I've been in worldwide.
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Old October 15th, 2008, 04:26 AM   #172
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seems they upped the architecture for this airport and frankly Indianapolis as a whole city. What part is the circle "Jetson's" looking roof part at? I have been priming for just the terminal part, and did not know of this circular part.
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Old October 15th, 2008, 05:03 AM   #173
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im so glad they decided to replace the passenger jet bridges, when I worked for united, there was talk of reusing the current ones, they had a horrible odor of dead birds and they were always hot. We had to gas them down everyday with air freshner.
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Old October 15th, 2008, 05:18 AM   #174
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To Indy Type Guy: It makes sense to me why the escalators would have one moving stairway going in and two going out. The chances of large crowds moving out at the same time are good - based on a couple of flights coming in at the same time and everyone getting their luggage and leaving at the same time. Coming in, it would seem the flow would be more steady - as some people come in an hour before their flight, some come in an hour and a half ahead - and some may only come in 45 minutes before. You don't have that same sudden rush at one time for the inbound traffic.

Arenn: I don't remember much about the airport when I visited Madrid about ten years ago. The only airport related memory I have is the huge amount of grafitti that I saw riding the train from the airport into central Madrid.
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Old October 15th, 2008, 05:23 AM   #175
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Nice. You got to tour the customs/field inspection station. It was closed when I got there.

Here is my photo set from the tour. Same day you went. Just a little later in the day.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rofl_in...7607938782312/

Thanks for sharing your photos. The new airport is definitely something for the people of Indianapolis and Indiana to be proud of.

I took note of the exterior landscaping. Can anyone explain the shades of gray and brown after seeing it up close? Is this permanent?
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Old October 15th, 2008, 09:51 AM   #176
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To Indy Type Guy: It makes sense to me why the escalators would have one moving stairway going in and two going out. The chances of large crowds moving out at the same time are good - based on a couple of flights coming in at the same time and everyone getting their luggage and leaving at the same time. Coming in, it would seem the flow would be more steady - as some people come in an hour before their flight, some come in an hour and a half ahead - and some may only come in 45 minutes before. You don't have that same sudden rush at one time for the inbound traffic.
I can see your point about the rush of people But is it really enough to justify double the escalators going out as in? Over the course of a day it will average out. And the one thing I noticed during the tour was the log jam of people waiting to go into the terminal. It to me showed the design to be inadequate for kind of rush of traffic. Remember that one escalator going in has to last us forever. It would have made more sense to widen the area by 5 feet or whatever and added another escalator. Spend the money there instead of on something like that crazy lighting and all the art that while looks nice doesn't improve the functioning of the airport.
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Old October 15th, 2008, 10:14 AM   #177
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Thanks for sharing your photos. The new airport is definitely something for the people of Indianapolis and Indiana to be proud of.

I took note of the exterior landscaping. Can anyone explain the shades of gray and brown after seeing it up close? Is this permanent?
I'm relatively certain some of what you see is basically the seed/mulch paste put down by a hydro seeder. Basically a landscape company can paint an area with grass seed and since the seed is mixed with a mulch type sludge they don't have to go back and put straw down. My parents had a landscape company and they had one of those machines. Though their mix was a green color. But what we saw looks just like it.
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Old October 16th, 2008, 06:57 AM   #178
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I haven't seen the inside of the new airport yet, so I really don't know what the escalators are like. Is it possible that one of the three is reversible, to handle different flows of traffic at different times? Just another thought. I'm really not too concerned about it. I'm sure things will work fine or appropriate adjustments will be made as needed.
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Old November 6th, 2008, 08:22 AM   #179
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Airport Grand Opening

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dl...LOCAL/81105055

"A 1,000-foot long ribbon-cutting, a flyover and dozens of guest speakers and performers will all be part the dedication ceremony for the new Indianapolis International Airport on Veterans Day.

Tuesday’s ceremony on the upper-level drive at the Col. H. Weir Cook Terminal will start at 1 p.m. The first commercial flight is scheduled to land later that day after 8 p.m. Departures begin Wednesday morning."



I won't be visiting the new terminal until early January, but I can't wait for this terminal to be open for business!
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Old November 10th, 2008, 05:16 AM   #180
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I just completed posting a seven-part series providing a comprehensive review of the new airport terminal on my blog. You can read it here.

Part 1: Exterior
http://theurbanophile.blogspot.com/2...s-airport.html

Part 2: Interior
http://theurbanophile.blogspot.com/2...irport_18.html

Part 3: Furnishings and Finishes
http://theurbanophile.blogspot.com/2...s-airport.html

Part 4: Signage
http://theurbanophile.blogspot.com/2...irport_01.html

Part 5: Artwork
http://theurbanophile.blogspot.com/2...irport_08.html

Part 6: Miscellaneous, or Rethinking the Airport as Public Space
http://theurbanophile.blogspot.com/2...port_2936.html

Part 7: Conclusion
http://theurbanophile.blogspot.com/2...port_6305.html
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