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Old February 25th, 2012, 02:17 PM   #441
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Why is Prague signed in two languages and Warsaw only in german?
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Old February 25th, 2012, 02:43 PM   #442
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Under German regulations (RWBA 2000), the endonym of the town signposted (i.e. Praha and Warszawa) must be signposted at the very least. The exonym may be added if the endonym is not considered clear enough for the German-speaking motorist. Against that background, the Warschau sign is outright wrong, while the Prague sign correctly uses the option left by the RWBA.

The Warschau sign does not stand alone though. Both in the West and in the East, there are still plenty of signs that only contain the exonym. And it's not only about older signs; many are relatively new (but the persons responsible simply copied the contents of the old sign without considering the updated regulations).
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Old February 25th, 2012, 03:00 PM   #443
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wow, that's remarkable
Yes, very weird indeed because in Italy they usually signpost only the next big city along that route. In Milan you find signs to Bologna, after Bologna to Florence, after Florence to Rome, then to Neaples, etc...
The longest distences I saw signposted in Italy are Milan 280 on the A4 east of Venice and Rome 272 in Urbino (Marche). I saw also Rome near Ravenna (SS3bis-A1 route) and near Viareggio (A12-SS1-A12) route. Both are around 370km but the distance wasn't written. There is also a sign to Milan on the new interchange of Latisana on the A4 Venice - Trieste. Milan is around 350km from here but again the distance isn't written.
That sign near Genoa is pretty useless because is written in Italian only and not everybody know that Nizza, Marsiglia and Parigi are Nice, Marseille and Paris. I'm pretty sure it's the longest distance signposted in Italy and one of the longest of Europe.
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Old February 25th, 2012, 03:39 PM   #444
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It would be better if the Eastern numerals were called "Arabic" and the Western numerals called "Maghrebi" perhaps...

"Arabic numerals" is as much of a misnomer as "anti-Semitism" or "conventional current".
Well, they were developed in the Arab world and are still used in half of it. The Mashreq uses eastern numbers probably because of the Ottoman empire, so they consider them 'eastern' relative to the Mashreq; sometimes they call them 'Farsi'. It is natural even for scientific terminology to develop this way, there is nothing strange about it.
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Old February 25th, 2012, 06:20 PM   #445
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Yes, very weird indeed because in Italy they usually signpost only the next big city along that route. In Milan you find signs to Bologna, after Bologna to Florence, after Florence to Rome, then to Neaples, etc...
There's a place in Florence where Naples is signed (470 km away): http://g.co/maps/2zwh2
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Old February 25th, 2012, 06:29 PM   #446
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Yes, very weird indeed because in Italy they usually signpost only the next big city along that route. In Milan you find signs to Bologna, after Bologna to Florence, after Florence to Rome, then to Neaples, etc...
The longest distences I saw signposted in Italy are Milan 280 on the A4 east of Venice and Rome 272 in Urbino (Marche). I saw also Rome near Ravenna (SS3bis-A1 route) and near Viareggio (A12-SS1-A12) route. Both are around 370km but the distance wasn't written. There is also a sign to Milan on the new interchange of Latisana on the A4 Venice - Trieste. Milan is around 350km from here but again the distance isn't written.
That sign near Genoa is pretty useless because is written in Italian only and not everybody know that Nizza, Marsiglia and Parigi are Nice, Marseille and Paris. I'm pretty sure it's the longest distance signposted in Italy and one of the longest of Europe.
i really like that way of marking. for instance, Germany lacks of it imo and at less important exits they sign some never-heard cities as main direction. it never happens in Italy.

btw, you can find Roma already in Ancona
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i really like that way of marking. for instance, Germany lacks of it imo and at less important exits they sign some never-heard cities as main direction. it never happens in Italy.

btw, you can find Roma already in Ancona
Yes, is pointless sign a city 500 or 1000km before when there is another big city 100-200km ahead. But is also wrong point to little, unknown but close villages avoiding more important, but less close towns.
By the way I remember Rome signed on A22 near Verona, around 550km.
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The longest distences I saw signposted in Italy are Milan 280 on the A4 east of Venice and Rome 272 in Urbino (Marche).
There are numerous signs to Lyon on the A4 west of Milan. Those reveal higher distances, though they are of course cross-border. Presumably the A3 also has kilometer posts with the distances to Salerno and Reggio Calabria on them. Those would also reveal higher distances. And unlike that one-off to Paris on the A10, these are continuous references that can actually be properly used.

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I saw also Rome near Ravenna (SS3bis-A1 route) and near Viareggio (A12-SS1-A12) route. Both are around 370km but the distance wasn't written.
Again, you can see Salerno signposted from Reggio Calabria without a distance posted, and vice versa. That is around 440 kilometers. But the references to Rome from the A22 near Verona would even bring you to 500. Though technically, that is a reference that the A22 leads to the A1 which in turn leads to Rome (then, after you have made it onto the A1, Rome disappears from the signs until Florence).

From the 1990s, by the way, I recall Rome appearing on distance signs as far North as Trento. But the current distance signs on the A22 are much more "regional".
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There are numerous signs to Lyon on the A4 west of Milan.
Any pic? Is the distance written?
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Yes there is. See Streetview

Also found one "Reggio C. 433" along the A3. Here is the Streetview of that one.
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^nice. Do French people know about Lione?
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Old February 28th, 2012, 10:35 AM   #452
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Screenshot from a Dutch travel programme: Uzbekistan (the last line - unfortunately not visible - showed a quick "Baku 2279 km"

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Where is Oqtau? Is it perhaps Aktau in Kazakhstan?
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Old February 28th, 2012, 04:38 PM   #454
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Aqtau in western Kazakhstan.
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Old February 28th, 2012, 04:55 PM   #455
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You overtook me before I edited my post. Yes, the distance seems to match.
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Some weird signs on the Spanish A-12 near my hometown (Logroño):





The A-12 is called "Autovía del Camino de Santiago". The Camino de Santiago (Way of St. James) is and old pilgrimage route which leads to Santiago de Compostela. This city is indicated at the begining of the A-12 near Pamplona:


And on the N-135 near Roncesvalles, what is considered the starting point for the Spanish pilgrims:
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Why Cáceres? That's just a small city.
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Yeah, Badajoz would have made more sense (well... none of them makes sense actually) as it is located next to the border with Portugal.
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Why Cáceres? That's just a small city.


It is really strange. Caceres and Badajoz are both province capital (because any strange reason those cities are strongly pointed on signals even if not important directions or crosses).
Badajoz is only a couple km of the border with Portugal and much greater than Caceres.

But what it is strange is that they point three different directions since there in the Atlantic or near it: La Coruña, Lisboa and Sevilla and..... Caceres is not in any route from there.
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Even farther: Santiago 820.

BTW, they have found a Barcelona 1075 sign.
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