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Old March 6th, 2008, 05:36 PM   #101
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No it's not. Only Berlin and København are signed in that direction.
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Old March 6th, 2008, 05:37 PM   #102
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I happened to make a pic of that sign 2 days ago:
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Old March 6th, 2008, 06:08 PM   #103
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What's the purpose of writing Copenhagen in the Netherlands? Hamburg is more than enough, I think it's even bigger than Copenhagen, right?
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Old March 6th, 2008, 06:09 PM   #104
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Those signs are just for fun.

On the A2, a sign read Luxemburg, and on the A4, London and Paris are signed once.
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Old March 6th, 2008, 06:10 PM   #105
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I think it's done for "European Unity" sake or something.
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Old March 6th, 2008, 06:11 PM   #106
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@ Verso: Well, these signs only appear once, not all the way to Copenhagen. There is also a sign near Abcoude with Luxembourg, and one on the A4 with Paris and London (perhaps one more, but I don't remember). I don't exactly know why those signs are there, but I thought it had got something to do with promoting the E-roads (see Chriszwolle's pic: via E30 and E231)
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Old March 6th, 2008, 06:20 PM   #107
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Interesting. Well, Paris or even London aren't so useless IMO, but Copenhagen?
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Old March 6th, 2008, 06:25 PM   #108
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Miami is signed already somewhere near Richmond. That's what i call a long distance.


Yeah, I have found it at www.aaroads.com - on I-95 South
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Old March 6th, 2008, 07:00 PM   #109
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That is about 950 miles or 1530 kilometers. Atlanta is also not the nearest town by the way, with around 530 miles or 850 kilometers.
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Old March 6th, 2008, 10:42 PM   #110
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Chris: Why is Copenhagen written in the Danish way though?
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Old March 6th, 2008, 11:53 PM   #111
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Why is Copenhagen written in the Danish way though?
In The Netherlands the idea is that cities are signed in the spelling that the destination city uses locally. So Aken becomes Aachen, Luik is signed as Liège, etc.

In many places this principle is not consistently implemented, but it is the idea.

In the province of Friesland four municipalities have chosen Frisian as the official language, so the signs to these towns (also from places not using frisian) are in Frisian. Roordahuizim (nl) is signed as Reduzum (fr), Eernewoude (nl) is signed as Earnewâld (fr), etc.

In short: the language of the destination determines the spelling.
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Old March 7th, 2008, 01:17 AM   #112
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There are many situations in which names are not usually translated, because they are names...
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Old March 7th, 2008, 05:32 AM   #113
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It makes sense to sign names of cities in their local language. People in smaller countries or who live near borders know name of cities on the other side of the border in both theirs and the local language. But tourists may not. I mean, if you didn't know much Italian how are you supposed to know Parigi is Paris?
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In The Netherlands the idea is that cities are signed in the spelling that the destination city uses locally. So Aken becomes Aachen, Luik is signed as Liège, etc.

In many places this principle is not consistently implemented, but it is the idea.

In the province of Friesland four municipalities have chosen Frisian as the official language, so the signs to these towns (also from places not using frisian) are in Frisian. Roordahuizim (nl) is signed as Reduzum (fr), Eernewoude (nl) is signed as Earnewâld (fr), etc.

In short: the language of the destination determines the spelling.
I've noticed this too. I did a bit of a road trip involving Austria, the Czech Republic and Hungary in 2002. I noticed that in Austria, Prague was signed as Praha and that in the Czech Republic, Vienna was signed as Wien.

There's a not too different situation in these parts - in areas where Afrikaans is widely spoken, some signs are in Afrikaans while others are in English. This is particularly prevalent in Johannesburg, Pretoria and Bloemfontein where a lot of people speak Afrikaans. An Afrikaans sign is very rare here in Durban, as people who speak that language in Durban are few and far between.

I wonder how many tourists have been slightly confused by that though...

Here's an example for you, which I found on Panaramio through Google Earth. This sign is on the the N1, around 200km away from Bloemfontein and 600km from Johannesburg. "Kaapstad" is the Afrikaans name for Cape Town.

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Old March 7th, 2008, 10:24 AM   #115
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In the province of Friesland four municipalities have chosen Frisian as the official language, so the signs to these towns (also from places not using frisian) are in Frisian. Roordahuizim (nl) is signed as Reduzum (fr), Eernewoude (nl) is signed as Earnewâld (fr), etc.

In short: the language of the destination determines the spelling.
As far as i know, small places are signed in Frisian language, but the larger cities (Leeuwarden, Sneek, Heerenveen etc) are signed in Dutch.
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Old March 7th, 2008, 10:35 AM   #116
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Interesting. Well, Paris or even London aren't so useless IMO, but Copenhagen?
Lol, makes it fun for us northerners. :P

Though short national E-roads, such as these, are useless:

E231 – Amsterdam – Amersfoort
E232 – Amersfoort – Hoogeveen – Groningen
E311 – Breda – Gorinchem – Utrecht
E312 – Vlissingen – Breda – Eindhoven
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The whole E-network is useless in my opinion, except for those countries which use it as their main numbering scheme.
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Old March 7th, 2008, 04:00 PM   #118
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The whole E-network is useless in my opinion, except for those countries which use it as their main numbering scheme.
I think the idea of an European numbering system makes sense, particularly since the entire continent is more and more integrated. National borders mean less and less, even though national culture means more and more. As long as the E roads actually are the most important links, they should be useful. However, in too many countries, those numbers aren't properly signposted.

Imho, it makes better sense to be guided from Prague to Berlin along the E55 than on the D8, A17, A4 and A13. For instance.

To the thread, the longest non-touristy distance sign I know of in Norway, is the one stating that it's 900 kms to Narvik. It's found just north of Trondheim.
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Old March 7th, 2008, 04:48 PM   #119
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The problem is, the E-road network is made in a grid, while the continent's geography doesn't favor that like in the United States ( the E-network is based on the US Highway & Interstate Highway system), making a lot of routes not making any sense, especially north-south or diagonal routes.
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The whole E-network is useless in my opinion, except for those countries which use it as their main numbering scheme.
i absolutely agree. it could be usefull if you travel at some extra long distances, for instance, from Greece to Sweden or similar. but you'll not follow E65 in that case neither because you can travel on much shorter way and much better roads if you don't follow that route
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