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Old March 11th, 2009, 11:24 PM   #161
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Wow. What a disappointment.
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Old March 12th, 2009, 06:07 AM   #162
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That first picture is about 10 stories shorter than the others. It looks like crap! a 15-story building is not suited for that prominent location. It is more suited for a taller 20+ story structure as posted in the 2nd picture. Not sure they are for real based on the rendering discrepancy. I do like the 2nd rendering and hope this takes off when the economy shows some signs of growth.
I wouldn't go as far to say that it looks like crap, but after seeing the way better renderings before the updated ones, it's definately a downer to see what it could have been. or still may be. Who knows? Either way the new structure definately won't do the location its justice.
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Old March 12th, 2009, 06:18 AM   #163
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I still like it.

Build it.
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Old March 13th, 2009, 03:30 AM   #164
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It'd take the new height. The action at the street-level would make up for it. The original retail design probably would have put the Grand out of business.

Anyone else think it's weird the plaza area isn't on the corner?
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Old March 16th, 2009, 03:28 PM   #165
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I still like it.

Build it.
No! That space is too valuable to settle for this. Wait a year and see what the economy brings. This new plan would not enhance this city's image, nor would it do much for the convention business here. Looks like something you'd see going up in Peoria.
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Old March 17th, 2009, 10:49 PM   #166
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I'm not so sure that because of this new rendering that that means Catalyst 2 has been cancelled. The new rendering is called Catalyst 1. I think this is done so that if it's certain they can't get the financing for 2 they will then try and get it for 1. Otherwise why would they keep the rendering for 2 up on the site? I don't think there is any reason for us now to lose hope.
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Old March 18th, 2009, 01:30 AM   #167
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I'm not so sure that because of this new rendering that that means Catalyst 2 has been cancelled. The new rendering is called Catalyst 1. I think this is done so that if it's certain they can't get the financing for 2 they will then try and get it for 1. Otherwise why would they keep the rendering for 2 up on the site? I don't think there is any reason for us now to lose hope.
I think on the website they just called the new rendering "Catalyst 1" because it's the first picture in the series. The subsequent pictures are "Catalyst 2," "Catalyst 3" etc.
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Old March 18th, 2009, 07:11 AM   #168
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Well that really wasn't my whole point. The major point is, if this new rendering is the new proposal and the old rendering is of a proposal that has been cancelled, why are they keeping the old rendering up on the site?

You have to remember that the rendering for the very first proposal is no longer pictured on the site. Why, because that proposal was cancelled.
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Old July 2nd, 2009, 05:53 PM   #169
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This project is officially dead.

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Old July 2nd, 2009, 07:09 PM   #170
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This project is officially dead.
It was only a matter of time... lets hope in a year or two this comes back better than ever...
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