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Old May 23rd, 2009, 08:00 PM   #2061
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I agree, but for driving 60 one shouldn't be fined. It ain't extremely slow.
It ain't if you're alone on the road or the traffic is very light. What about if there is a lot of traffic? Would you tolerate driving behind old granny with 60 km/h and road allows 90, but you can't overtake because of dense oncoming traffic.
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Old May 23rd, 2009, 08:34 PM   #2062
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Actually I would feel much safer on the road with an old granny doing 60 rather than 90.
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Old May 23rd, 2009, 08:38 PM   #2063
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When you are in a hurry, I'm not sure, if you would agree with granny's "safe" speed.
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Old May 24th, 2009, 01:33 AM   #2064
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So you won't tell me I don't wanna show you pics of our ordinary main roads, here are pics of the G7 (Rijeka - Trieste), some of you have already seen them.
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Old May 25th, 2009, 12:15 PM   #2065
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Well, i do not believe 60kph in 90kph zone is dangerously slow. For example if for some reason i would have to drive that slow i guess i would try to stop whenever i can to pass the people behind me. I think the "dangerously slow" situations is less than 60 on 130kph road (motorways, which i think they do have minimum speed req., true, i am not sure how much is it... i think 60 in croatia)

Now i checked and for Croatia is: (i doubt it is much different for others)

minimum speed is half the max speed, so on 90 is 45. But you can drive slower with all four turning signals on or yellow warning lights (rotating ones, like emergency uses blue...)

So 60 in 90 zone is quite ok. But still, yeah it is polite to pass through the cars behind you if you can.

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Old May 25th, 2009, 01:25 PM   #2066
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It's dangerous because people riding behind someone with such low speed get very nervous and then some may take big dangerous risks for overtaking old papa.
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Old May 25th, 2009, 05:08 PM   #2067
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Let's redirect this discussion. H4 finished, still waiting for tunnels to be equipped:
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Old May 25th, 2009, 06:52 PM   #2068
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Is it called Vipavska Hitra Cesta ?
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Old May 25th, 2009, 07:08 PM   #2069
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it looks unsafe
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Old May 25th, 2009, 08:45 PM   #2070
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Is it called Vipavska Hitra Cesta ?
Yes, Vipavska hitra cesta.

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it looks unsafe
Well, it's full of tunnels and viaducts. I hope there won't be too much transit between Slovenia and Italy going here, but it probably will.
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Old May 25th, 2009, 08:57 PM   #2071
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Some kind of Triest bypass really
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Old May 25th, 2009, 09:01 PM   #2072
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Yes, Vipavska hitra cesta.
Hitra cesta is something like an expressway?
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Old May 25th, 2009, 09:02 PM   #2073
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Sth like our expys, but with stunning 100 km/h
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Old May 25th, 2009, 09:15 PM   #2074
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It literally means "fast road". For some of them (particularly urban expressways) 100 km/h is quite fine, but especially by this H4 (but not this section) this speed limit is ridiculous. Basically it's b/c of the often bora wind, but as if they can't put portals to regulate the speed limit.
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Old May 25th, 2009, 09:22 PM   #2075
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Looks like it was some pretty tough terrain to drill through to complete this section.

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Yes, Vipavska hitra cesta.

Well, it's full of tunnels and viaducts. I hope there won't be too much transit between Slovenia and Italy going here, but it probably will.
Wouldn't transit rather go to Italy via A3?
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Old May 25th, 2009, 09:41 PM   #2076
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Looks like it was some pretty tough terrain to drill through to complete this section.
It's been U/C for a decade.

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Wouldn't transit rather go to Italy via A3?
Apparently not, even though it's just some 2 km shorter. Italians are even gonna transform the RA17 into a full motorway. Signs on both sides of the road (G12, H4, RA17) already now suggest to go over Gorizia rather than Trieste (and always have), which is at least for now ridiculous. In Slovenia (A1×G12) the sign looks like this (a clear preference for Gorizia/Nova Gorica, Trieste isn't even translated ), while in Italy (A4×RA17) Slovenia (SLO) isn't even written in direction Trieste (although it should be already b/c of Koper).
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Old May 26th, 2009, 02:44 AM   #2077
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Not for me. If the road is for 90, then use it for that. (Actually the fine is for people, who drive less than half of permitted speed and obstruct traffic)
Not really. Fine for driving less than half of permitted speed is next article in our Traffic law. Fine for this violation is also 60 euros.

Article before that states that someone is not allowed to drive under maximum allowed speed limit if there are 3 or more cars behind him.
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Old May 26th, 2009, 09:04 AM   #2078
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Why H4 is not signed here? Does the yellow background mean it's a hitra cesta?

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Old May 26th, 2009, 09:13 AM   #2079
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Why H4 is not signed here? Does the yellow background mean it's a hitra cesta?

As I know, the yellow background is used in Slovenia for state roads. I saw last year on H7 a blue background. It's same as in Croatia.
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Old May 26th, 2009, 09:39 AM   #2080
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Why H4 is not signed here? Does the yellow background mean it's a hitra cesta?

This overpass will get new sign with opening of H4.
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