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Old June 27th, 2009, 03:19 PM   #2161
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Maybe you find them a bit outdated, because they haven't changed much since times of Yugoslavia. But anyway, I've noticed Croatia uses a better material, e.g. our signs very soon become almost invisible at night. Also, we've got worse icons for interchange and exit than we already used to have. I also like by Croatian signs icon for the next exit on distance signs, because here it can be confusing. For example, the distance is to the next exit, but the distance to the town shown is bigger.
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Old June 27th, 2009, 08:28 PM   #2162
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I wanted to ask you what exactly you don´t like and why, but you answered already that you have no clue.
IDK, they look somehow dated - maybe bc they look flat (without that 2-3 cm edge around).

For example, here you can see that it already bended - it looks very thin. I know now I'm complaining Radi-style, but I just had to say
And I agree with what x-type said, maybe that's the reason.

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Old June 27th, 2009, 08:53 PM   #2163
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That is the original sign from 1984:

Has been replaced last year because of obvious wear.

This one is from year 2000:


And this one is from year 2008:


As you can see, practically no difference in design in last 25 years. Actually this design (I think) appeared already in 1980 with opening of first section of Ljubljana bypass, so design is almost 30 years old. Before that signs had all letters capitalised (some signs can still be found on some local roads).

Practically same design is used in Bosnia and Hercegovina, Serbia and Macedonia, Croatia changed design (I especially like their arrows) in 1990-ies (I think)
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Old June 27th, 2009, 09:16 PM   #2164
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There is small difference between font, the one from 80´s and
the new one are almost 100% indent, but the one in the middle is narrower.
honestly i don´t see that big difference in Croatia´s signs.
And why changing what is good.
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Old June 27th, 2009, 09:56 PM   #2165
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Actually this design (I think) appeared already in 1980 with opening of first section of Ljubljana bypass, so design is almost 30 years old. Before that signs had all letters capitalised (some signs can still be found on some local roads).
Yes, Italian style. And true, this sign is from 1979, when the motorway beside it was opened, while the western Ljubljana bypass (from 1981) had the current design since its opening.

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honestly i don´t see that big difference in Croatia´s signs.
Fonts are still the same, I think, but signs are quite different.

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maybe bc they look flat (without that 2-3 cm edge around).
What do you mean?
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Old June 27th, 2009, 10:10 PM   #2166
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To be honest, I find the Slovenian signage more consecvent than the Croatian. In the New Croatian design they are mixing both new "open" arrows with the old ones. I do not understand why they did not change them all. If Slovenia is going to change their design I would prefer it if they changed it 100 % (Yes, I know I sounds like Radi right now )
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Old June 27th, 2009, 10:36 PM   #2167
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What do you mean?
Edges are not bented and the sign looks like a sheet of paper. But this is the least important proble I suppose.
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Old June 27th, 2009, 11:40 PM   #2168
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Fonts are still the same, I think, but signs are quite different.
What is so different about them?
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Old June 28th, 2009, 02:27 AM   #2169
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Croatia changed design (I especially like their arrows) in 1990-ies (I think)
actually, first redisegned signs appeard in 2001 here. but we also had some inter-phase which wasagain quite different from your signs. i will try to find some photos to show what i mean.
edit: i have found half of sign from that period, here

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Fonts are still the same, I think, but signs are quite different.
fonts are also slightly different, our is kinda thinner.
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To be honest, I find the Slovenian signage more consecvent than the Croatian. In the New Croatian design they are mixing both new "open" arrows with the old ones. I do not understand why they did not change them all.
true, but there is defined which have open arrows, and which have closed. actually, open arrowshave all except those for navigating traffic in second degree, so direction tables (those where you have large arrow connected with other arroes)

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Old June 28th, 2009, 11:32 AM   #2170
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I see what you mean now. Signs with just plain arrows uses new open arrows, while those signs looking a bit like a map (birdview of the exit, roundabout, T-junction etc) uses old types of arrows
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Old June 28th, 2009, 05:42 PM   #2171
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What is so different about them?
I think these two signs are quite different from each other:



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Old June 28th, 2009, 07:28 PM   #2172
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Those signs looks like the autobahn signs in Germany, as do the 1000m sign before this one, with exit symbol, name and number on them. On the other hand I think the 250m sign in Croatia (yellow, with black triangle arrows next to each destination) looks like Italian autostrada signage...
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Old June 28th, 2009, 09:06 PM   #2173
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They are similar
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Old June 29th, 2009, 09:09 AM   #2174
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They are, but I think Croatian one is better, things are more clear and obvious.
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Old June 29th, 2009, 11:18 PM   #2175
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Rare images where you can see jams on Slovenian motorways, these are all on A1 between Celje and Ljubljana. Jams were caused because of construction works on motorway. Now they are finished. Pictures taken on 19.06.






Gypsies live here near Vransko exit on A1.


Is this the biggest overhead sign in the world?
Taken on 26.06.
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Old June 29th, 2009, 11:31 PM   #2176
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I wonder if they've heard of Graz. Great pics otherwise, Ripley, and lol at the gypsies.
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Great sign, but why such a small font? You can hardly see what's written there
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Old June 29th, 2009, 11:37 PM   #2178
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You should see other signs on the new section. One gives Maribor-north as a destination in direction south.
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Old June 29th, 2009, 11:39 PM   #2179
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It is too big, the sign. Why there are no hard shoulders on this section of A1?
http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q...5/IMG_3460.jpg
http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q...5/IMG_3461.jpg
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Old June 30th, 2009, 12:20 AM   #2180
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Great sign, but why such a small font? You can hardly see what's written there
i think that letters are not that small, but they seem to be small on that oversized sign
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It is too big, the sign. Why there are no hard shoulders on this section of A1?
http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q...5/IMG_3460.jpg
http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q...5/IMG_3461.jpg
i think it's on viaduct
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