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Old June 30th, 2009, 04:54 AM   #2181
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and the 2nd photo?
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Old June 30th, 2009, 12:52 PM   #2182
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A5 doesn't have shoulders at all.
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Old June 30th, 2009, 01:01 PM   #2183
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A5 doesn't have shoulders at all.
It has them on ~10 km.
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Old June 30th, 2009, 01:59 PM   #2184
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You still haven't answered Ban.BL's question, Verso. Are you ashamed of it?
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Old June 30th, 2009, 02:47 PM   #2185
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I don't know why there's no hard shoulder on that short stretch.
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Old June 30th, 2009, 03:18 PM   #2186
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Old June 30th, 2009, 03:18 PM   #2187
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How long is that strech?

Look what have i found on youtube, "Autoput" in 80´s i just can´t figure it out where it is i think it is in Slavonia somewhere. Look just how crazy they drive

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Old June 30th, 2009, 03:29 PM   #2188
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Crazy Looks like Poland now
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Old June 30th, 2009, 03:33 PM   #2189
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Holy cr*p, that's dangerous!
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Old June 30th, 2009, 03:37 PM   #2190
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^ If the road is wide enough, example is Poland, it's not dangerous.
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Old June 30th, 2009, 04:07 PM   #2191
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Actually that was the space for three autos parallel easily. Or one truck and two autos a bit tight. But also two trucks and one auto very tight, however not always went well.
Just on 130 km long stretch between Ljubljana and Zagreb there were every year between 30 and 50 death people. In general, driving habits 20 or 30 years ago were much worse than today.
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Old June 30th, 2009, 04:10 PM   #2192
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Better quality here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzNSO_ARFfU
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Old June 30th, 2009, 04:44 PM   #2193
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and the 2nd photo?
That stretch is long about 9,5 km long in direction of Maribor (including three ascent lanes for almost 2 km) and 7 km long in direction of Ljubljana.

Northern part (now direction Ljubljana) was planned in sixties and build in 1970-ies, and this is geologically very difficult section and includes two tunnels and three pretty high viaducts, one is built on landslide. Having hardshoulder was considered as too expensive option at that time. When motorway was completed with new southern part (direction Maribor) in 1996, they wanted to speed up construction, so they left out hard shoulder and made almost duplicates of existing viaducts.

This motorway part is often very congested and quite dangerous, especially in bad weather.
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Old June 30th, 2009, 08:16 PM   #2194
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they could build that "sos stop lots" like in Croatia on Istria Y.
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Old June 30th, 2009, 08:24 PM   #2195
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Too expensive, thought so..

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they could build that "sos stop lots" like in Croatia on Istria Y.
There are.
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Old June 30th, 2009, 10:05 PM   #2196
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OMG

such ******s in this movie but at least nice cars, where is it ? Somewhere on H2 ?

Or Road 1 somewhere on plains between Zagreb and Belgrade ?
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Old June 30th, 2009, 10:45 PM   #2197
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such ******s in this movie but at least nice cars, where is it ? Somewhere on H2 ?

Or Road 1 somewhere on plains between Zagreb and Belgrade ?
0:12 - 0:22 looks like Slovenia because between Zagreb and Beograd you could find forrest only between Županja and Lipovac, and this doesn't look like that forrest, i'd rather say it's Slovenia. rest canbe anywhere between Ljubljana and Beograd.
btw cars are suspiciously good, i bet those are mostly Turks going back from Germany
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Old June 30th, 2009, 10:59 PM   #2198
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Look at the plates they look Yugoslav, small.
I so got use to seeing white border line now, it is odd for me to see it in yellow again
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Old July 1st, 2009, 08:18 PM   #2199
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So, new vignettes from today.

Cars (vehicles up to 3.5 t):
- weekly vignette - 15 EUR
- monthly vignette - 30 EUR
- yearly vignette - 95 EUR

Motorcycles:
- weekly vignette - 7.5 EUR
- 6-month vignette - 25 EUR
- yearly vignette - 47.5 EUR
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Old July 1st, 2009, 09:18 PM   #2200
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even more expensive
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