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Old August 20th, 2009, 03:48 PM   #2461
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Yeah 'Jebjana'

Anyway...what kind of inner bypass Ljlubljana has ?
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Old August 20th, 2009, 04:22 PM   #2462
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Anyway...what kind of inner bypass Ljlubljana has ?
Are you for real? If you mean the ringroad around the center (because there's one more, but far from being a complete circle), it's nothing special, partly 2-laned. The last part of it (the rest of it was built decades ago) begins with construction in a week or two and will have been finished by the end of the next year. It includes a 4-lane double-decker bridge over Ljubljanica (cars up, pedestrians down). There's already an alternative west of it (so you can say ringroad already exists), but it has more curves and intersections.

This blue ringroad is what I'm talking about and this red connection is still missing:

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Old August 20th, 2009, 05:48 PM   #2463
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Some time ago I even tried to plan this missing bit it is like errrm urban area there ?
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Old August 20th, 2009, 06:54 PM   #2464
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Not really, there's an old building, partly protected for its historic importance (many famous Slovenians died there in the 19th-20th centuries from tuberculosis ), but just like back then, it's still full of junkies and homeless people, and it's falling apart anyway, so I'd just demolish it all. Here's its pic, the bridge/road is gonna go through an unprotected part of it:

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Old August 20th, 2009, 09:16 PM   #2465
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This is how it's gonna look like:


Other than that, we're expecting as many as 6 new bridges across Ljubljanica this and next year, among others this one looks interesting (but just for pedestrians):
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Old August 20th, 2009, 11:47 PM   #2466
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A4 Macelj (SLO/HR) - Maribor

A few pics of the brand new A4, plus some Macelj - Ptuj pics.

1. Entering Slovenia from Croatia.
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2. Vinjeta werbung.
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3. Slow national road...
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4. Petrol station. This seems like the national brand of Slovenia.
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5. Stuck behind slow trucks.
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6. Interchange ahead!
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7. Exit to Ptuj.
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8. This is where we've all been waiting for.
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9. Here we go.
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10. Top-notch quality.
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11. Exit Hajdina ahead.
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Old August 21st, 2009, 12:38 AM   #2467
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80 km/h already 1100 m before the toll station?!

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All in all - ! This post is getting in the A4 link in the first post.
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Old August 21st, 2009, 01:47 AM   #2468
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Don't be ridiculous; show me just one example.
Even Slovenian G1-9 was in Yugoslavian statistics as "autoput". I also remember blue minimum speed limits signs there.
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Old August 21st, 2009, 02:26 AM   #2469
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It was officially never a motorway. The Highway of Brotherhood and Unity was also called 'autoput' by everyone, but never had the motorway sign where it was 2-laned.
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Old August 21st, 2009, 02:40 AM   #2470
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Yeah, they were called autoput (and even written in statistics as such). But there was a reason for it as those 2 lane roads represented half-motorways back then and were meant to be upgraded to full motorways some day in the future.
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Old August 21st, 2009, 10:43 AM   #2471
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Great report, Chris! Will the A4 be extended to the Croatian A2 in the near future or are the Slovenes also trying to block this project to connect Croatia?
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Old August 21st, 2009, 03:02 PM   #2472
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Old August 21st, 2009, 03:14 PM   #2473
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Timon is unbelievable. i don't even remember our last arguing about that or similar problems, and then he appears from nowhere and wakes the spirits
btw, you should really do that motorway asap
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Old August 21st, 2009, 03:20 PM   #2474
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Timon is unbelievable. i don't even remember our last arguing about that or similar problems, and then he appears from nowhere and wakes the spirits
Yeah, that was weird.
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Old August 21st, 2009, 03:26 PM   #2475
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Is there a bypass for Bled planned? Traffic is really bad there during the day. It was backed up from Lesce to Bled, but once you crossed the main intersection near the lake, the problems are mostly gone, except for tourists who can't park along that lake. But it may be much better to construct a two-lane bypass for traffic towards Bohinj. After Bled, the road to Bohinj is quite good. I drove all the way to the west side of Lake Bohinj, and that road was narrow, but very good and safe with nearly no traffic (well, I drove there around 8 am).
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Old August 21st, 2009, 03:34 PM   #2476
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Bled bypass has been planned for a while, but these things move slowly here. Also terrain isn't easy (tunnels needed).
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Old August 21st, 2009, 05:02 PM   #2477
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It probably has to be something like this:
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Old August 21st, 2009, 05:13 PM   #2478
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^ I guess; the northern part would also require a bypass, which would be easier to construct.
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Old August 21st, 2009, 07:33 PM   #2479
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I was wondering, does the brand "Petrol" have a monopoly on fuel distribution in Slovenia? I can't remember seeing any other brand.
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Old August 21st, 2009, 07:38 PM   #2480
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There're also quite many OMV gas stations and a few others, but Petrol is the most widespread.
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