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Old August 21st, 2009, 07:46 PM   #2481
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Petrol has been the main supplier in Slovenia even during the Yugoslav times. Who remembers the border between Croatia and Slovenia in Yugoslavia where now the Croatian A3 begins? There was a Petrol station in Slovenia, and no more than 500mtrs. away an INA-station which was in Croatia. So there you could know that you had crossed a border.
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Old August 21st, 2009, 07:52 PM   #2482
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Who remembers the border between Croatia and Slovenia in Yugoslavia where now the Croatian A3 begins? There was a Petrol station in Slovenia, and no more than 500mtrs. away an INA-station which was in Croatia. So there you could know that you had crossed a border.
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Old August 22nd, 2009, 01:32 AM   #2483
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^ I guess; the northern part would also require a bypass, which would be easier to construct.
If there is a southern bypass, a northern bypass is probably not needed anymore. Traffic wasn't that bad when I was there. There was some congestion, but not that much.
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Old August 22nd, 2009, 12:31 PM   #2484
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It probably has to be something like this:
[IMG]http://i25.************/2yocozd.jpg[/IMG]
This is planned (your picture is aproximately correct), however here there is very strong NIMBY factor. And this is NIMBY in most obvious form. That's why still no suitable alignment was found even after decades.

Northern bypass is also planned but it is still far from realization.
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Old August 22nd, 2009, 12:57 PM   #2485
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similar situ at Lienz...

terrible jams in tourist seasons...
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Old August 22nd, 2009, 02:03 PM   #2486
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I passed by the Trebnje - Novo Mesto construction site day before yesterday and it looks like they were busy with earthworks, but no real road construction yet,
Road construction begins end of this year or early next year. Earthworks are a great majority of work to be done. I'll try to make some new photos from construction site next weekend.
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Old August 22nd, 2009, 02:04 PM   #2487
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similar situ at Lienz...

terrible jams in tourist seasons...
True, but no bypass is planned for Lienz in next 10 or 20 years.
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Old August 26th, 2009, 01:49 PM   #2488
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A1 Maribor - Ljubljana

Click on the title to view the full set.

This set follows A1 westbound from Maribor to Ljubljana, Slovenia's two largest cities. The A1 passes by Celje and through mountainous terrain in the interior of Slovenia.

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Old August 27th, 2009, 02:15 AM   #2489
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Nice report, Chris. Funny that Koper is only signed from Ljubljana.
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Old September 1st, 2009, 07:39 PM   #2490
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Hi! First of all, I'd like to congratulate you on new kilometres of highways

Can you tell me what kind of road will be built on the stretch from Koper to the Croatian border (and connection with B9)? Is it going to be an expressway (hitra cesta) or motorway?
And do you know the approximate year in which the road will be completed...
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Old September 1st, 2009, 08:37 PM   #2491
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It is planned to be 15,5 km long expressway (4 lanes) from Bertoki until Dragonja border crossing. H5 between A1 ending and new interchange H5-H6 (or whatever will be named) should be upgraded to full 3+3 motorway with hard shoulders. Here is some low quality graphics:
http://www.dpa.mop.gov.si/doc/kp_dra...ek_grafika.pdf

Timeline is not known, but certainly not very soon. Agreement about alignment should be done next year. It will cost at least 280 million euro. Local population is against that expressway, because "they don't need it" (typical NIMBY argument) and that could hinder progress.
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Old September 1st, 2009, 09:15 PM   #2492
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I really believed that A1 will join with Croatian A9, my dreams are ruined
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Old September 1st, 2009, 11:09 PM   #2493
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thanks!!
that's not bad at all... i thought that they will extend A1, too. But on the croatian side there will be an expressway too (2+2 without hard shoulders), so it's numeration would be B9 (although sometimes it is called A9 even now, when the second carriageway is still under construction).

Just one question: what's the difference between your A5 (which is named as an highway, but in fact it is an expressway) and other expressways (hitre ceste) which are named as H...?
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Old September 1st, 2009, 11:18 PM   #2494
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A5 is too internationally important (V. Corridor) to be called 'expressway'. I guess it's because of the speed limit, which is 100 km/h on expressways, but on A5 it's 110 (although I think they could make an exception, 100 km/h is the general speed limit anyway, not the maximum).
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Old September 1st, 2009, 11:28 PM   #2495
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A5 is discont style motorway

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Old September 1st, 2009, 11:50 PM   #2496
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yes. the speed limit is not the factor that determines the type of road, but its construction. so a motorway must have 2 lanes(or more)+hard shoulder in both directions...

but the most important thing is that these roads are built and that they serve us, no matter how they are called

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Old September 2nd, 2009, 12:05 AM   #2497
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a motorway must have 2 lanes(or more)+hard shoulder in both directions...
This isn't required, although it's preferred. The main differences between motorways and expressways are different slopes, different curves, width of lanes... As such, A5 is a true motorway (gentle slopes, gentle curves, not too narrow lanes...), although every motorway could be an expressway, but not every expressway can be a motorway. H3, for example, is even wider than motorways (it also has gentle curves and practically no slope), but it's just an expressway (of course because it's urban and with so many interchanges).
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The A5 could be called expressway because it lacks shoulders, right?
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Old September 2nd, 2009, 12:22 AM   #2499
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It could be, but the speed limit would then be just 100 km/h (not that 110 km/h is terribly fast, but still better).
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Old September 2nd, 2009, 12:35 AM   #2500
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This isn't required, although it's preferred. The main differences between motorways and expressways are different slopes, different curves, width of lanes... As such, A5 is a true motorway (gentle slopes, gentle curves, not too narrow lanes...), although every motorway could be an expressway, but not every expressway can be a motorway. H3, for example, is even wider than motorways (it also has gentle curves and practically no slope), but it's just an expressway (of course because it's urban and with so many interchanges).
of course, I know that... but what I meant to say is that speed limit may vary and does not influence on road classification. for example, the A6 in croatia is classified as an motorway, it has gentle curves, wide lanes, shoulders and all other specifications of an motorway, but still it has speed limit 100 km/h (because of many tunnels (i think 14 on about 100 km). The same way you can have expressway with higher speed limit.
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