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Old September 21st, 2009, 05:15 PM   #2541
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Old September 21st, 2009, 07:11 PM   #2542
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To break up that amazingly fruitful conversation ...

A2 Pluska - Ponikve - construction update from 20th September 2009:

End of current motorway:


Underpass for forest road:


Most parts are already drivable with normal car:


Towards Novo mesto (blurry):


Overpass for pedestrians is almost finished:




Just foundation for end section needs to be done:


East from previous overpass:




Underpass at Odrga village:


East from that it is still unpassable for a normal car, but should be better in a month or two:


Viaduct Ponikve is close to being connected to other side:




At least this first section (around 7 km long) should be finished before July 2010, earthworks are mostly finished, the same is valid for objects.
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Old September 21st, 2009, 07:25 PM   #2543
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Further there is a problem at junction Mirna Peč:
(pictures were taken in end of August)






Owner of that house in the middle of the future junction doesn't want to move out despite the fact that his house and surrounding land has been already bought by motorway company.

Also few km before that there is a large parking space for trucks, which owner (of a transport company) does not want to sell cheaply. He wants several millions of Euro for about 1,5 hectares of parking space in the middle of the forest. Of course he bought those parcels years ago, when he found out that all variants of future motorway coincidence in that area. Nowadays economical crisis hit him hard (as most truck companies in Slovenia) so he wants to get the most of those parcels and even agreed sums of money are later rejected by him and demands higher sums.
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Old September 22nd, 2009, 10:07 AM   #2544
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It looks great!



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Old September 22nd, 2009, 01:41 PM   #2545
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And what about map of project of H5 Izola - Lucija and ?road/expressway? to Ankaran, which is on DARS map?

Thank you.
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Old September 22nd, 2009, 04:30 PM   #2546
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And what about map of project of H5 Izola - Lucija and ?road/expressway? to Ankaran, which is on DARS map?

Thank you.
The Ankaran road is gonna be 2-laned, but DARS like to label every road they build as motorway. Also the road between Ptuj and Slovenska Bistrica is totally ordinary, they even hardly built there anything.

As for H5 Izola - Lucija, here's a map (yellow variant):





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Old September 22nd, 2009, 06:31 PM   #2547
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Really? A pity that I didn't spot you when I was in Ljubljana
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Old September 22nd, 2009, 06:37 PM   #2548
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Old September 24th, 2009, 10:43 PM   #2549
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A1:







Lubiana ring (nord ring: H3; east ring: A1; south: double number A1-A2; west: A2)




Usually toll station (Tir, bus):

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Old September 24th, 2009, 11:00 PM   #2550
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H4 (with new section)




IN H4 in the old section there are this green signal even if is a "H road"
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Old September 24th, 2009, 11:23 PM   #2551
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IN H4 in the old section there are this green signal even if is a "H road"
The oldest section of H4 is actually a motorway with 130 km/h limit and not expressway, even if it lacks hard shoulder.
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Old September 24th, 2009, 11:32 PM   #2552
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No (seeing the signals). The old part near Nova Gorica is a motorway (with no number in the signal). But the other old part of H4 is a H-road but with that green signal. In fact other signals, in the section where there are that green signal, is blue:

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Old September 24th, 2009, 11:37 PM   #2553
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But it's not the old section, it's the expressway part (EDIT: lucaf1 was faster); anyway, it's a bit messy. Interesting pics otherwise, we don't see many jam pics in this thread; merging there must've been a bitch.


As keber has noticed, there's come to some renumbering! The planned H6 from Koper to the Croatian border will be H5. The H5 west of Koper (currently G111) will be H6. The existing H5 between Koper and the Italian border is staying H5.
http://www.dars.si/Dokumenti/O_avtoc...Koper_176.aspx
http://www.dars.si/Dokumenti/O_avtoc...ucija_167.aspx
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Old September 24th, 2009, 11:46 PM   #2554
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Then it is a mistake, it should be blue with current regulations. However I think it was valid in time, when this road was built.
Edit: it really is an old sign, it has yellow broken stripe on left side, it should be white. All old sings not compatible with current regulations should be changed next year (sure ...).
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Old September 24th, 2009, 11:49 PM   #2555
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Two question.

What's the meaning of the first signal?:
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What's the meaning of the 50 of the blue signal (here is little):
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By the way motorways (A) / expressways (H) in Slovenia are good. Only the guard-rail are embarrassing
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Old September 24th, 2009, 11:51 PM   #2556
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Then it is a mistake, it should be blue with current regulations. However I think it was valid in time, when this road was built.
also because there is a new signal for the SOS in the new section of the H4, the same as the Italian

This, blue:
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Old September 24th, 2009, 11:54 PM   #2557
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Interesting pics otherwise, we don't see many jam pics in this thread; merging there must've been a bitch.
It a standard every day jam there, merging is pretty easy.

I'll need to take photo sometime and extend my homeward journey through some Ljubljana bypass jams (but I don't have much enthusiasm to do that).

I'll wait for some rainy Friday afternoon, October is approaching.
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Old September 24th, 2009, 11:59 PM   #2558
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also because there is a new signal for the SOS in the new section of the H4, the same as the Italian

This, blue:
Yeah, that's the one it should be. But there are too much old signs lurking on Slovenian roads. Some are not changed even at upgrading and they usually just move old panel to new portal.

In Slovenia there seems to be unwritten law - in all areas of life: save there where is the cheapest.
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Old September 25th, 2009, 12:08 AM   #2559
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Two question.

What's the meaning of the first signal?:
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Upcoming interchange of two motorways (as used in Austria, Germany and elsewhere - but not Italy)

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What's the meaning of the 50 of the blue signal (here is little):
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Minimum speed of 50 km/h on middle lane (or left lane) is mandatory. Again I don't remember it from Italy.

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By the way motorways (A) / expressways (H) in Slovenia are good. Only the guard-rail are embarrassing
True, but they are slowly improving with upgradings of motorway (that is too slow, however)
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Old September 25th, 2009, 12:19 AM   #2560
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also because there is a new signal for the SOS in the new section of the H4, the same as the Italian

This, blue:


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It a standard every day jam there, merging is pretty easy.
Easy, but slow. Anyway, if I went right, I'd just continue on the hard shoulder, which is short anyway.
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