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Old November 28th, 2009, 04:59 PM   #2721
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yes, I know, I put it just because I didn't know what to put beside klagenfurt I suppose Ljubelj pass is only regional route to Klagenfurt and nothing more. However, was I right about Menges bypass?
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Old November 28th, 2009, 05:09 PM   #2722
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It should join the A2 somewhere by Vodice, yes.
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Old December 11th, 2009, 01:14 PM   #2723
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Hi, just a question, what will be built in 2010? As I noticed the main infrastructure is already built so maybe few km will be built next year.
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Old December 11th, 2009, 02:03 PM   #2724
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- last part of A2 between Ljubljana and Zagreb should be opened in June 2010.
- part of A2 from Ljubljana to Jesenice should be finished until summer 2011,
- H6 between Koper and Izola in 2012 or 2013, and maybe another part to Lucija/Portorož also until 2013.
- A4 to Croatian border in 2012 or 2013.

This is more or less everything of bigger project in near future. There are number of smaller things like additional exits and renovations and establishing new toll system. From 2013 new motorway programme is planned, which will include some new motorways and expressways.
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Old December 11th, 2009, 04:44 PM   #2725
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- last part of A2 between Ljubljana and Zagreb should be opened in June 2010.
- part of A2 from Ljubljana to Jesenice should be finished until summer 2011,
- H6 between Koper and Izola in 2012 or 2013, and maybe another part to Lucija/Portorož also until 2013.
- A4 to Croatian border in 2012 or 2013.

This is more or less everything of bigger project in near future. There are number of smaller things like additional exits and renovations and establishing new toll system. From 2013 new motorway programme is planned, which will include some new motorways and expressways.
So next year it will be possible to drive from Ljubljana to Zagreb without leaving motorway? What do Croatians think about it?
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Old December 11th, 2009, 04:56 PM   #2726
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They will invade Ljubljana
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Old December 11th, 2009, 05:07 PM   #2727
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Why? We already have a fey large shopping malls in Zagreb, or in the Zagreb suburbia. Even the Slovenes come and buy in them (they get a Croatian VAT return)
That motorway is ideal for me to go to Poreč on vacations, because a Matulji-Pazin part of the "Istrian Y half-motorway" is the worst Croatian highway.
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Old December 11th, 2009, 05:11 PM   #2728
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Actually, I beg Slovenes to begin and finish the H6 from Koper to Dragonja border crossing (Croatian A9 from Dragonja to Pula will be finished in 2011, I think.), thereafter I can drive from Zagreb to Poreč on motorway/expressway.
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Old December 11th, 2009, 05:18 PM   #2729
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So next year it will be possible to drive from Ljubljana to Zagreb without leaving motorway? What do Croatians think about it?
just dream on it will be possible...
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Old December 11th, 2009, 05:20 PM   #2730
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Actually, I beg Slovenes to begin and finish the H6 from Koper to Dragonja border crossing (Croatian A9 from Dragonja to Pula will be finished in 2011, I think.), thereafter I can drive from Zagreb to Poreč on motorway/expressway.
I think H6 is only Koper - Lucija, for Croatia there will be another one via Smarje (Koper - Dragonja).
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Old December 11th, 2009, 07:57 PM   #2731
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just dream on it will be possible...
Let's bet about that, shall we?
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Old December 11th, 2009, 08:33 PM   #2732
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From 2013 new motorway programme is planned, which will include some new motorways and expressways.
I'm intrigued! Tell me more
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Old December 11th, 2009, 08:56 PM   #2733
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Let's bet about that, shall we?
we should have bet last year

btw, you know i will be the happiest person in entire world when SLO build that section! ok, maybe not, the happiest person in entire world will be again me, but when SLO build A4 Ptuj - Gruškovje
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Old December 11th, 2009, 09:02 PM   #2734
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Can't do that, nothing is decided yet. Only that everything, that was planned for current motorway programme, will be finished until 2013. So for additional project you'll need new motorway programme, right?

3 years old draft-draft, includes also some new feeder roads to existing motorways (see first page picture for a hint):
http://www.mzp.gov.si/fileadmin/mzp....gradnov710.pdf

(A border) Dravograd-Celje-Novo mesto-Metlika (CRO border) expressway is also planned.
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Old December 11th, 2009, 09:06 PM   #2735
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You mean the bypass between motorways Muenchen-Salzburg-Villach-Jesenice-Ljubljana-Novo Mesto and Bosiljevo-Otocac-Split-(Dubrovnik-Podgorica-Tirana-Athens?)
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Old December 11th, 2009, 09:10 PM   #2736
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Yes. It won't be a full motorway though. Probably in the beginning just two lane expressway (which is more than enough for current traffic).
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Old December 11th, 2009, 10:57 PM   #2737
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ok, maybe not, the happiest person in entire world will be again me, but when SLO build A4 Ptuj - Gruškovje
Why is that section so important to you? There won't be any serious time travel difference (max. 1 minute) between the current road and future motorway as current road will count as a half of future motorway.
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Old December 11th, 2009, 11:13 PM   #2738
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we should have bet last year
I wouldn't bet at that time.
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Old December 12th, 2009, 04:05 AM   #2739
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Why is that section so important to you? There won't be any serious time travel difference (max. 1 minute) between the current road and future motorway as current road will count as a half of future motorway.
safety and comfortable. i mean, if we would think like you, then we could make 10 km breaks of almost each motorway each 30 km, imagine how much money would we save!
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Old December 13th, 2009, 01:15 PM   #2740
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Safety was an issue like 10 years ago when on this 15 km strech death toll was around 5-10 people per year. Now every year only some locals die because they are too lazy to stop at stop signs.

I don't think this section will get priority as even motorway Ptuj-Maribor is deserted.
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