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Old March 21st, 2010, 11:01 PM   #2841
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Bora is not a hurricane, because it's not cyclonic. It is caused by temperature differences due to high pressure areas on the cold mainland and low pressure areas above the warmer Adriatic sea. It does reach hurricane-force winds though. As far as I know, it's mostly gusting, there are no long periods of sustained winds of 220 km/h.
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Old March 21st, 2010, 11:17 PM   #2842
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that's right, Chris. those 200+ km/h stories are only about wind strokes, it doesn't have that speed constantly.
there are 2 main times in years when it happens - end and the beginning of winter. of course, it can appear also in other periods (in the middle of summer), but those 2 are constatntly. at the beginning of winter it appears because continental part gets cold sooner than coast, pressure difference happens and air tumbles from higher parts (mountains) to lower (coast).
why did it happen these days? because we had short warm period 2 weeks ago, and then came the snow from Spain, and after it again came warmer weather. continent didn't have enough time to warm as fast as coast. so bura appeared.
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Old March 22nd, 2010, 01:56 AM   #2843
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Bora is not a hurricane, because it's not cyclonic. It is caused by temperature differences due to high pressure areas on the cold mainland and low pressure areas above the warmer Adriatic sea. It does reach hurricane-force winds though. As far as I know, it's mostly gusting, there are no long periods of sustained winds of 220 km/h.
Well, I obviously know bora isn't a hurricane and Slovenia isn't in hurricane zone.. It just looked like that on the video. Anyway, I'm quite happy I live deep inland in a landlocked country.
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Old March 28th, 2010, 10:37 PM   #2844
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A2 Pluska-Ponikve-Hrastje, 27.03.2010 - construction update:

It's been four months from last update and because of harsh winter not so much has changed as you would think. There was a lot of snow, the last one three weeks ago up to 40 cm. Now all snow is gone, day temperatures are ranging from 10-20 degrees and works are in full swing. About 50% of alignment is paved with asphalt, about 40% is waiting to be that very soon and about 10 % is less advanced, but for now not to be worry about June 2010 opening, if workers will work as intense as last week.

For the first update of 2010 I took some extra pictures, mostly taken in direction of Zagreb:

1 - Beginning at Pluska


2 - Exit Trebnje-west (north part)


3 - Exit Trebnje-west (south part)


4 - Continuing toward tunnel Leščevje, pavement is asphalted but very dirty


5 - after the tunnel asphalt is still not present


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7 - getting above Trebnje town


8 - pictured from pedestrian overpass towards Ljubljana


9 - pedestrian overpass, still not finished.


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11 - view towards Zagreb


12 - from the highest point of new motorway above valley there is a nice view of surrounding area.


13 - after that there is still no asphalt until viaduct Ponikve


14 - on the right there will be service station, however not right after motorway opening. If travelling in direction of Zagreb, temporary there will be no service station on motorway for almost 70 km.
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Old March 28th, 2010, 10:39 PM   #2845
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continuing:
15 - viaduct Ponikve, almost finished


16 - between both halves of viaduct


17 - those metallic things on lower right are expansion joints (dilatations), prepared for installation


18 - the least advanced part on transport company former land, which they didn't want to sell, taken from exit Trebnje-east overpass


19 - same point, toward Zagreb, again asphalted pavement


20 - climbing onto another hill


21 - machine in the middle of both halves of motorway is for montage of guard rail.


22 - view from the top towards west


23 - on the top of the hill there is still a lot to do


24 - viaduct Dole


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26 - here there is still some mining to do, although it is not direct on alignment of motorway


27 - underpass for exit Mirna Peč


28 - Exit Mirna Peč, towards Ljubljana


29 - same point, looking towards Zagreb, remaining part until end of new alignment is already asphalted in full length


30 - also a nice view


31 - End of alignment
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Old March 28th, 2010, 10:46 PM   #2846
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Thanks for the update
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Old March 28th, 2010, 10:48 PM   #2847
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Thanks for another bunch of photos.
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Old March 28th, 2010, 11:55 PM   #2848
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I like Lower carniola very much. it seems that highway will go well with landscape.
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Old March 29th, 2010, 12:17 AM   #2849
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is it going to be opened till 2011?
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Old March 29th, 2010, 12:23 AM   #2850
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Old March 29th, 2010, 04:47 AM   #2851
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It is interesting, that on parts of Ljubljana-Zagreb route of A2 which were opened in former Yugoslavia (Šmarje Sap-Višnja gora), there is Zagreb written as end destination on tables before the interchange and distance tables after it (interchanges Šmarje-Sap, Grosuplje-motel and Višnja gora). After that, there is always Novo mesto/Krško/Brežice respectively.
By the way, the interchange Šmarje-Sap did not exist initially on the H1. It was added at the beginning of the seventies. And another curiosity: the Naklo-Brezno part of H1 was the first fully build two-laned undivided expressway with hard shoulders on each side in the former Yugoslavia (of course the Ljubno tunnel and Ljubno/Peračica viaducts were built without it).
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Old March 29th, 2010, 04:55 AM   #2852
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At the beginning of the seventies, the whole H1 between Ljubljana and Zagreb (the beginning of the H1 was after Višnjica and the end of undivided expressway was in Jankomir) was still paved in reinforced concrete plates (as initially built), except the small part between Kronovo and Otočec and the sizeable Croatian part (Samobor-Jankomir) which were repaved with asphalt at this time.

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Old March 29th, 2010, 05:01 AM   #2853
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The interchanges of H1:
Višnjica (T-crossing, not interchange)
Grosuplje
Višnja Gora
Ivančna gorica (with the Istrabenz petrol station integrated in the interchange)
Bič (Litija)
Trebnje
Karteljevo
Novo mesto
Otočec
Dobruška vas
Smednik
Krško
Brežice
Jesenice
Bregana
Samobor
Rakitje
Jankomir (T-crossing, not interchange).

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In those times I remembered every curve and plain part of it, because it was necessary for overpassing. And in 1987, shortly before the beginning of building the Šmarje-Sap Višnja gora A2 part, I made a record: from Višnjica to Podsused in 1 hour (in those times at Obrežje was no border, and if you were lucky enough to travel without overpassing the slow FAP or TAM trucks at the hilly parts, especially between Grosuplje and Višnja gora, it was reachable at speed of 125-130 kmh).
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Old March 29th, 2010, 05:13 AM   #2855
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And the hilly part between Višnja gora and Grosuplje was paved with small granite cubes, just like in interwar Germany.
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Old April 2nd, 2010, 08:11 PM   #2856
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seems that you really liked the old expressway.

today's news: speeding of the minister of the interior car (Audi A8) caught on camera.
http://tvslo.si/predvajaj/policijski...ava2.64931996/

route: A1/A3 razdrto - sezana.
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Old April 2nd, 2010, 11:12 PM   #2857
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Yes, I did, because in those days it (Škofljica-Jankomir & Naklo-Brezno) was the only road in former state without crossings (and it means without pedestrians, tractors and so on). And in the Shell road atlas for 1972/73 it was designated as full motorway, and I was proud of it.
And just one trivia: the famous H-8 movie about the bus accident at highway Zagreb-Beograd in the fifties was actually taken at the old expressway, somewhere between Brežice and Krško (at the old Gorenje Skopice-Vihre overpass, which also don't exist anymore).
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Old April 3rd, 2010, 06:05 PM   #2858
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And just one trivia: the famous H-8 movie about the bus accident at highway Zagreb-Beograd in the fifties was actually taken at the old expressway,
Famous? Never heard of, but I would like to see it. Available anywhere?
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Old April 3rd, 2010, 06:32 PM   #2859
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Hi everybody. Is 25 euro vignette the cheapest one still? I have to go throu Slovenia, but only a few km by highway and taht is very annoying to pay for it 25 euro.

I drove throu some kind of secondary road in mountains to avoid paying fee last year. It was very beautiful but i lost a few hours.
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Old April 3rd, 2010, 08:15 PM   #2860
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I'm not sure if it's available on DVD in Croatia.
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