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Old August 12th, 2010, 03:29 AM   #3021
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Nice pics! These old signs were so funny. There's "Centro" for a Slovenian city, but only "Trst" for an Italian city.
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Old August 12th, 2010, 12:28 PM   #3022
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also, there are no slovenian names for croatian towns (pulj). when was that road (Ankaran interchange - Koper) built?
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Old August 12th, 2010, 03:55 PM   #3023
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i also wanted to comment horizontal markings - i have already noticed those tiny dashed lines in SLO. they never turn into solid line, i guess that doesn't mean "allowed overtaking" but just marks the middle of the roads, right?
That is just stupid. What´s wrong with standard solid line and dashed line?
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Old August 12th, 2010, 05:30 PM   #3024
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also, there are no slovenian names for croatian towns (pulj). when was that road (Ankaran interchange - Koper) built?
I think in 1992 (well, they mostly just widened the old road). In 1975 they built the Ankaran interchange (the one that no longer exists, today H5×A1), in 1979 the Slavček cloverleaf in Koper, I think in 1990 the expressway through Koper, and in 1992 between Koper and the Ankaran interchange. But don't take it for granted.
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Old August 12th, 2010, 11:18 PM   #3025
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http://www.dars.si/Dokumenti/O_avtoc...Koper_176.aspx

it says that srmin - koper was built from 1989 to 1992. so maybe they put signs already before independency. how did they build that cloverleaf in Koper if they widened later?

edit: http://www.dars.si/Dokumenti/O_avtoc..._in_HC_30.aspx

here it says that ankaran - koper was built in 1990. so even Dars doesn't know exactly.
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Old August 13th, 2010, 12:05 AM   #3026
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Exactly my point. It's very possible that it was built already on 7th January 1990, because I remember we went in summer that year from near Ankaran, where we were on holidays, to Portorož, and I remember it already existed, but perhaps not yet all of it, otherwise I don't know what they opened in 1992.
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Old August 14th, 2010, 08:40 PM   #3027
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if anybody wants to see a 16 sec video I made today... actually I went to Graz (A) to buy a new camera, but they didn't have anything good in saturn and mediamarkt! It looks like I will have to wait until I return to Paris to find something good.



damn. how to get a youtube embedded?

edit: yees!!

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Old August 14th, 2010, 10:07 PM   #3028
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map:http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sour...42,0.0842&z=14

(sorry for phone picture quality)

first, old road Ptuj - Slovenska bistrica, connecting Ptuj with A4. Although the official exit for Ptuj is further south, with future 2-lane Ptuj - Ormoz motorway. (now only section A4 - bridge over Drava - Ptuj is finished).











here I made a mistake and went for Ptuj (I was coming from Ptuj ). luckily there was one more roundabout.



A4. now my favourite slovenian motorway. Perfect pavement, no changing direction, one huge slight turn to the left, low traffic (we are in august!!) and very nice landscape of Dravsko polje.











nice interchange


H2 trough Maribor







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Old August 14th, 2010, 10:57 PM   #3029
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A4 on video:



which software do you use to accelerate?

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Old August 15th, 2010, 12:24 AM   #3030
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I think it's quite remarkable that there's the small border-village of Šentilj on the sign, but not M. Sobota (or Hungary, but it was still behind the Iron Curtain back in 1989). Btw, I think the signs still look excellent after 21 years.
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Old August 15th, 2010, 12:45 AM   #3031
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I think it's quite remarkable that there's the small border-village of Šentilj on the sign, but not M. Sobota (or Hungary, but it was still behind the Iron Curtain back in 1989). Btw, I think the signs still look excellent after 21 years.


I knew Verso will comment on signs.

apparently Sentilj is quite important; also on the austrian side it's also on signs, even without spiefield! furthermore, if you look this way, Sentilj was one of the most important border crossings for entire yugoslavia, so maybe that's why it's there.

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Šentilj is ok, but M. Sobota is missing, which is 9 times bigger.
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Old August 15th, 2010, 01:05 AM   #3033
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Šentilj is ok, but M. Sobota is missing, which is 9 times bigger.
well, nobody really cared about it that time. hehe. I don't know why. maybe route west - east trough slovenia towards budapest wasn't so important or active like these days.
even today, Lendava, as a border town, is more often shown as M. Sobota.
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I think it's quite remarkable that there's the small border-village of Šentilj on the sign, but not M. Sobota (or Hungary, but it was still behind the Iron Curtain back in 1989). Btw, I think the signs still look excellent after 21 years.
Sentilj is the name of the crossing as well, so that is the reason, village is not the point.
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I know, but border-crossing names don't appear on map of Europe (and neither do villages like Šentilj). As I said, I don't mind Šentilj on signs.
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And furthermore, the text "Avstrija" is unnessecary in these days. Graz (OK, Gradec ) with an Oval "A" should be enough.
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And furthermore, the text "Avstrija" is unnessecary in these days. Graz (OK, Gradec ) with an Oval "A" should be enough.
despite their excellent condition, those signs are already very old, i think from late 80es, and in that period signalization in Yugoslavia was quite inconstant, probably there were not existing rules of signing the places on direction signs, as we know today.

Šentilj maybe is an unimportant village, but it was indeed the most known and important border crossing in Yugoslavia and almost everybody heard for it
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Šentilj maybe is an unimportant village, but it was indeed the most known and important border crossing in Yugoslavia and almost everybody heard for it
Ja znam I know, I have crossed that border in the YU-times more than enough. But I can imagine that the Slovene want to change this sign, like they did with more signs. I am glad that Slovenia did not start in 1991 with signs like Hrvaška
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Ja znam
very common mistake many slovenians outside homeland still do it. I know - "vem", I can/I am capable of - "znam".


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But I can imagine that the Slovene want to change this sign, like they did with more signs.
I kinda like old signs.

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I am glad that Slovenia did not start in 1991 with signs like Hrvaška
what do you have in mind?
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very common mistake many slovenians outside homeland still do it. I know - "vem", I can/I am capable of - "znam".
I am not a Slovenian (half-Bosnian)
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