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Old June 30th, 2007, 10:50 PM   #321
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^ Oh that; I have no idea why they are lighter than driving lanes! I've also noticed it, and I'd also like them to be black (the same as driving lanes; when new, of course), no idea!
don´t worry, on some bulgarian motorways they also did that, BUT not on the Struma motorway!!!
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Old July 1st, 2007, 01:21 AM   #322
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I actually like the different couloring between the driving lanes and the emergency lane.
It makes the distinction between the 2 more clear, so it's good.
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Old July 1st, 2007, 01:24 AM   #323
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^ Oh that; I have no idea why they are lighter than driving lanes! I've also noticed it, and I'd also like them to be black (the same as driving lanes; when new, of course), no idea!
Because when you repave the motorway, you don't need to repave the emergency lane, because it's not used by regular traffic.
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Old July 1st, 2007, 01:51 AM   #324
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I actually like the different couloring between the driving lanes and the emergency lane.
It makes the distinction between the 2 more clear, so it's good.


i have noticed this mostly on new motorways, not old ones
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Old July 1st, 2007, 02:12 AM   #325
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Because when you repave the motorway, you don't need to repave the emergency lane, because it's not used by regular traffic.
What do you mean? You'd have to repave it, if it was 'colored' the same as driving lanes? I'm not into pavement, but I guess what you're saying is, that they are separated, and when they aren't, it's kinda impossible to repave just part of the pavement?
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Maybe they only repaved the driving lanes, instead of including the emergency lane. But that's just a theory. It's also possible that they use inferior pavement for the shoulder, because normally there ain't traffic on it. It's a way to save money.
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Old July 1st, 2007, 02:35 AM   #327
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Has to be the latter (as far as Slovenia is concerned). Here we can clearly see the difference on Slovenia's NEWEST motorway (about 1 year old; I know, old for being the newest ):

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Old July 1st, 2007, 02:52 AM   #328
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Has to be the latter (as far as Slovenia is concerned). Here we can clearly see the difference on Slovenia's NEWEST motorway (about 1 year old; I know, old for being the newest ):

Yes, it´s a way to save money, at least the crashbarriers are shiny.
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Old July 1st, 2007, 03:00 AM   #329
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It also distinguishes the driving surface from the shoulder. You'd be surprised at how often solid white lines confuse idiot drivers.
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Old July 1st, 2007, 03:13 AM   #330
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If it saves money, I think it's good; I mean, who needs that lane anyway? I've even seen (in poorer countries) gravel emergency lanes, which do just fine in case you need to stop over, but it can be very dangerous in case you (unintentionally) find yourself there by high speed for whatever reason. Not to mention the claustrophobic feeling..

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Old July 1st, 2007, 03:18 AM   #331
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If it saves money, I think it's good; I mean, who needs that lane anyway? I've even seen (in poorer countries) gravel emergeny lanes, which do just fine in case you need to stop over, but it can be very dangerous in case you (unintentionally) find yourself there by high speed for whatever reason. Not to mention the claustrophobic feeling..
If you think that way yes, but if you think of the design of the motorway i think they have to be black also. I think new motorways must look impresive.
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If you think that way yes, but if you think of the design of the motorway i think they have to be black also. I think new motorways must look impresive.
If you think of the design of the motorway i think they have to be black also?? What does that mean? There's obviously nothing in the parameters for building motorways that states that the emergency lanes have to be as black as the driving lanes.
A new motorway must do it's job providing a safe and fast ride... not look impressive.
And personally, as I've refered, I prefer the diferent colours between the driving lanes and the emergency lane. I think it look mor impressive.

The pavement on the emergency lane (shoulders) obviously doesn't have to be as thick as in the driving lanes. There would be no point in being as thick, besides wasting money.
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Black asphalt gets grey with time anyway.
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The pavement on the emergency lane (shoulders) obviously doesn't have to be as thick as in the driving lanes. There would be no point in being as thick, besides wasting money.
Yes, radi, some of this money is from EU, it can be better spent in Bulgaria!
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The black asphalt gets grey with time anyway.
In bulgaria they rehabilitated the E79 two lamed highway to greece six years ago and the asphalt is stil as black as it was at the beginning, i can show pics if i find, i wonder myself how the asphalt losts so long keeping black.
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Yes, radi, some of this money is from EU, it can be better spent in Bulgaria!
I don´t think it costs the world, and people in bulgaria want their new motorways to look impressive as they have waited soo long for them.
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Please show those pics, I'd like to see that miracle, 6 years black, sounds impossible! In the Bulgarian thread, of course.
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Damn those shiny crash barriers already!

Why should crash barriers be shiny anyway? I think for the increased safety they should be painted in black and white. And what's the deal with being impressive? A good motorway should be well designed, have a decent pavement and clear durable marking (preferably German) - that's all as far as I am concerned. I would be more than happy if in Russia they build more motorways, even if they all will be ugly concrete. As for Bulgaria, they are doing way better than Russia, but still a lot of corruption exists that prevents even faster development.

P.S. Sorry for hijacking this topic.
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Damn those shiny crash barriers already!

Why should crash barriers be shiny anyway? I think for the increased safety they should be painted in black and white. And what's the deal with being impressive? A good motorway should be well designed, have a decent pavement and clear durable marking (preferably German) - that's all as far as I am concerned. I would be more than happy if in Russia they build more motorways, even if they all will be ugly concrete. As for Bulgaria, they are doing way better than Russia, but still a lot of corruption exists that prevents even faster development.

P.S. Sorry for hijacking this topic.
I like when motorways look impressive, with what can a country better show it´s social state (or maybe not) than with roads, good roads always give you the feeling you are in a modern country, old bad looking roads give you the you are in a rather poor country.
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In bulgaria they rehabilitated the E79 two lamed highway to greece six years ago and the asphalt is stil as black as it was at the beginning, i can show pics if i find, i wonder myself how the asphalt losts so long keeping black.
Oh that can lasts decades before it turns grey. The E79 can't be that busy.
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