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Old April 13th, 2011, 09:16 PM   #3501
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Old April 13th, 2011, 09:19 PM   #3505
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Old April 13th, 2011, 09:20 PM   #3506
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Old April 13th, 2011, 09:22 PM   #3507
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I saw Beljak often,but now i see Celovec for the first time
Next time you must stop at the Jesenice rest area,there you can eat excellent burek
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Old April 13th, 2011, 09:36 PM   #3508
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I saw Beljak often,but now i see Celovec for the first time
Next time you must stop at the Jesenice rest area,there you can eat excellent burek
Once I made a break there in the previous year during my previous trip, but I haven't known what to search for.
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Old April 13th, 2011, 09:48 PM   #3509
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Thank you for your road trip report. Good quality pictures.
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Old April 13th, 2011, 11:49 PM   #3510
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Very nice road trip report!
Just one question, I know that in Slovenia, vignettes are used. What is the role of the toll gates? Is the vignette checked there?
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Old April 14th, 2011, 12:15 AM   #3511
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no. there is still a toll system for trucks. thanks for great pics!

anyway, if you stop at a Petrol rest area, I would recommend the Pizza sandwich, it is really great.
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Old April 14th, 2011, 12:16 AM   #3512
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Very nice road trip report!
Just one question, I know that in Slovenia, vignettes are used. What is the role of the toll gates? Is the vignette checked there?
Lorries and buses still pay tolls, they are not in vignette system. And yes, vignettes are being checked there. Since the vignettes are used I have never drove in Slovenia being checked for a sticker at least twice
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Old April 14th, 2011, 12:33 AM   #3513
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thats just coincidence, I was never checked. There are ocasional checks at toll stations, because cars slow down there.
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Old April 14th, 2011, 01:17 AM   #3514
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Controls are quite common at toll stations. Nice pix, btw!
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Old April 14th, 2011, 11:23 AM   #3515
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Really nice road, excellent surroundings

And Verso, thanks for explaining me the situation about the Jesenice bypass
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Old April 14th, 2011, 11:38 AM   #3516
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Also i have never been checked for vignette and i drove at least 6 times.
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Old April 14th, 2011, 06:59 PM   #3517
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i go to Slovenia about once monthly, mostly at route Obrežje - Koper or Obrežje - Fernetiči. i have NEVER drove that route without checks. of course, you might not even notice them because you don't have to unusually slow down or stop your vehicle. also, i don't remember when i passed Obrežje/Bregana border crossing not seeing the people from DARS checking the vignettes at exit from SLO. very often controls indeed.
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Old April 14th, 2011, 10:32 PM   #3518
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also, i don't remember when i passed Obrežje/Bregana border crossing not seeing the people from DARS checking the vignettes at exit from SLO.
That's logical. If Dars didn't control you, the police would, so you need Dars anyway to sell you a vignette and write you a fine.
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Old April 14th, 2011, 11:17 PM   #3519
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For which reason the Jesenice bypass (A2) doesn't have hard shoulders? I understand about the northern carriageway (the former "autoput"), but what's the reason of not building it when the second carriageway was built?

What is the speed limit there? Last time I was passing there was in december 2006, so I don't remember...

Speed limit here is 130 km/h. This motorway had many problems in its construction time. First there was severe economic crisis at the end of eighties/beginning of nineties which slowed construction a lot. Second one was geological. This is pure mountain motorway with low traffic and as such it didn't need hard shoulder according to Yugoslav regulations at that time. Also any objects were considered very expensive at that time and this section has five viaducts of considerable length (one very large). I might add that even tunnel (or maybe two) was not only planned but even under construction, which has to be demolished during building because of unstable geology (I remember seeing that tunnel in 1989). Sadly nothing can be found on the net about that tunnel(s).

This motorway is also the only one in Slovenia, that is prone to snow avalanches and has protection nets above. Also remember, that Austrian A11 on other side of Karavanke tunnel also does not have hard shoulders. Adding hard shoulders involves rebuilding all viaducts and retaining walls, which would be very expensive and with current traffic of 13-20 thousand AADT this doesn't seem to be justifiable for now.

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when was it built?
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