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Old October 30th, 2011, 07:18 PM   #3901
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There is fixed 100 km/h speed limit before tunnel, just checked today.

Still a big stupidity, such a short tunnel on a straight with hard shoulders and having speed limit.
Let's hope it changes in 2 weeks, when all lanes will be opened.
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Old October 30th, 2011, 07:21 PM   #3902
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On Austrian TMC Ljubljana is Laibach.

Stupid or ignorant? Or both?
and a bit lazy "Knoten" is also left in German.

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request for tender apparently, though Slovene sources translate it just as tender; bid/tender=ponudba, javno naročanje=public procurement, natečaj=competition
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Old October 30th, 2011, 07:33 PM   #3903
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Let's hope it changes in 2 weeks, when all lanes will be opened.
This is on new part, which has no lane closures (at least for now).
Also fixed speed limit is there to stay.
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Old October 30th, 2011, 08:14 PM   #3904
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AFAIK there's not a single tunnel in SLO with 130 speed limit. am I right?
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Old October 30th, 2011, 08:32 PM   #3905
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I remember some very short tunnels (100-200m) on A2 east of LJ toward HR border. Are there lower speed limits even here, I can't remember? I think they're useless, in Italy we don't have different speed limits for tunnels, just in some curvy or step mountain motorway sections, expecially the older ones.
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Old October 30th, 2011, 08:59 PM   #3906
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Actually I remember some 80 km/h speed limits for new tunnels with hardshoulders on reconstructed A3 (I didn't see any sane reason for that).

In Slovenia there is no additional speed limit for cut&covers on A2 toward Zagreb near Trebnje. Just there.
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Old October 30th, 2011, 08:59 PM   #3907
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AFAIK there's not a single tunnel in SLO with 130 speed limit. am I right?
Except a couple of short cut-and-covers on A2 LJ-NM.
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Old November 1st, 2011, 01:18 AM   #3908
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Yes, the picture with I think 60 km/h was taken before opening.
However, I don't like the 100 km/h speed limit as well, but it's the same case as with tunnel Vodole on A1.
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Old November 1st, 2011, 01:43 AM   #3909
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we got some new pics from recently opened section of A2: (thanks to ska.pre from slovenian forum)

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Old November 1st, 2011, 01:44 AM   #3910
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Did Podtabor had a "razcep" status before?
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Old November 1st, 2011, 01:50 AM   #3911
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nope. I noticed that sign as well. I don't know if it's really an interchange, more likely an exit. Road 101 is only a 2-lane 'road reserved for motor vehicles'.
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Old November 1st, 2011, 02:14 AM   #3912
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Did Podtabor had a "razcep" status before?
Not from the NW direction, because there was no direct connection to Tržič. That connection was opened last year.

Compare Google maps imagery from 2006
with 2011 imagery (from Slovenian site GERK):
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Old November 1st, 2011, 02:29 AM   #3913
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That's not a if you ask me (same goes for Draženci on A4). Only motorways and 4-lane expressways should count IMO. But it was a motorroad razcep before a motorway was built here in 2003 (except in direction Jesenice-Tržič).
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Old November 1st, 2011, 04:15 AM   #3914
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On Austrian TMC Ljubljana is Laibach.
Stupid or ignorant? Or both?
In Slovenia I see Trst / Trieste on highways.
Isn't it normal to see Laibach in Austria, if this is the name of the city in German?
Probably because the display was small they haven't used Laibach / Ljubljana.

I doubt that in Slovenian the capital of Austria is refered as Wien.

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Old November 1st, 2011, 04:45 AM   #3915
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In Slovenia I see Trst / Trieste on highways.
Isn't it normal to see Laibach in Austria, if this is the name of the city in German?
Probably because the display was small they haven't used Laibach / Ljubljana.

I doubt that in Slovenian the capital of Austria is refered as Wien.
you should correct that quoting. my post was just about an interesting fact.
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Old November 1st, 2011, 10:38 AM   #3916
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In Slovenia I see Trst / Trieste on highways.
Isn't it normal to see Laibach in Austria, if this is the name of the city in German?
Probably because the display was small they haven't used Laibach / Ljubljana.

I doubt that in Slovenian the capital of Austria is refered as Wien.
Yep, hofburg not quilty. Mea culpa.
I don't know about the standards, but in applications like these towns and cities should be written at least in local language of the place written, if not bilingual. I haven't seen yet a slovenian sign, where Wien (or any other foreign place) is written in local slovenian name only (like Celovec, Dunaj, etc.), display is never too small. I guess you will not see Dunaj in Slovenia also because it is not a bilingual territory.
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Old November 1st, 2011, 11:57 AM   #3917
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now i will be the evil bitch, but it seems they still have to finnish installing middle barriers south from the tunnel, right?

and what are these signs at 1st and 5th photos indicating?
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Old November 1st, 2011, 12:19 PM   #3918
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Missing middle barriers will be installed in next 2 weeks after holidays. Both overtaking lanes will be closed for that, starting tomorrow. Barriers in the middle on 5th and 6th photo won't be installed because of very wide median. Toll station was planned there but then decision to introduce vignettes was met in the middle of construction so only wide plateau was left, now covered with grass.

Sign on 1st is general DARS sign indicating that "Slovenia is building motorways for you"
Sign on 5th picture indicates necessary 30 m minimum distance between vehicles. Both were installed 4 years ago when first half was opened.
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Old November 1st, 2011, 01:05 PM   #3919
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Is the road from razcep Podtabor to Ljubelj tunnel via Tržič signed as an expressway (Hitra cesta)? Because it has no crossings, only intersections, and its geometry is as old Škofljica-Obrežje (-Jankomir) part of former B&U expressway.

HISTORICAL NOTE: In former federal state, till the middle seventies, B&U expressway started at Ljubelj tunnel. The expressway section from then Podtabor intersection to Brezje, and consequently the old road from Brezje to Rateče (or Potkoren?) via Jesenice and Kranjska gora had Yugoslav designation Road 1a (B&U expw was 1, and, curiously, road from Podsused to Kumrovec, the village where Tito was born, was 1b).

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HISTORICAL NOTE: In former federal state, till the middle seventies, B&U expressway started at Ljubelj tunnel. The expressway section from then Podtabor intersection to Brezje, and consequently the old road from Brezje to Rateče (or Potkoren?) via Jesenice and Kranjska gora had Yugoslav designation Road 1a (B&U expw was 1, and, curiously, road from Podsused to Kumrovec, the village where Tito was born, was 1b).
that road is in bad condition today, but it has many denivelated intersections
it is used only to go to spa (both SLO and HR )
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