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Old September 12th, 2013, 09:21 PM   #4861
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Yes, you pay once a year for roads and the car, price depending on the engine.
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Old September 12th, 2013, 09:27 PM   #4862
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Yes, we pay road tax (and insurance). The most common group, cars with engines between 1350 and 1800 cc are charged €96 per year. Between 1800 and 2500 it's €153, the most expensive is above 5 liters, €565.
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Old September 12th, 2013, 09:35 PM   #4863
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The most common group, cars with engines between 1350 and 1800 cc are charged €96 per year.
Damn, people may more than that per month for a small diesel engine passenger cars in the Netherlands... A 1200 kg diesel car costs € 1200 per year over here.
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Old September 12th, 2013, 09:45 PM   #4864
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I guess NL is the outlier. In Italy road taxes prices are much similar to Slovenia's. I pay arount 130€ per year for my 1.4l diesel car.
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Old September 12th, 2013, 09:47 PM   #4865
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In Germany too I guess, I pay 58 euros per year for the Seat Leon. For the Audi A4 B5 I payed a lot more, over 300. But Diesel cars cost more.
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Old September 12th, 2013, 09:59 PM   #4866
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I guess NL is the outlier.
I sure hope so for drivers in other countries. The way how motoring is taxed varies per country, making direct comparisons difficult. Norway may be the only country in the world that gets as much tax revenue on newly sold cars as they do on fuel taxes.
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Old September 12th, 2013, 10:24 PM   #4867
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folks from NL could just register cars in Germany, problem solved
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Old September 12th, 2013, 10:32 PM   #4868
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That's what I wanted to ask. Why don't you guys register your cars in the neighbouring countries? There are a lot of Romanians driving their cars that are registered in Bulgaria (because of the first registration tax which can sometimes exceed the value of the car).
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Old September 12th, 2013, 10:44 PM   #4869
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they like yellow plates?
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Old September 13th, 2013, 08:06 PM   #4870
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Today new toll prices have been confirmed:

vignettes price change from December 1st 2013:
yearly for cars (with or without trailer) 95 -> 110 €, monthly and weekly stay the same
new class is introduced for vehicles with more than 1,3 m height over first axle (read: vans and caravans with or without trailer): yearly 220 €, monthly 80 €, weekly 40 €

For trucks and buses, tolls will be considerably higher from October 1st 2013, however it is difficult to say how much in percentage. At first glance I noticed price increase from 30 to 50%, depending of EURO machine type, also night discounts are cancelled.
New tariffs (in Slovenian only for now):
http://www.dars.si/Dokumenti/3_cenik...13%20dalje.pdf
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LETO: Prihodki od cestnin (amortizacija) - kilometrov vir: uradna javno objavljena letna poročila DARS

2006: 151,3 ...
2007: 174,7 M€ (N/A) - 525,4 km

(uvedba vinjet po 55€) Vignette start 55€
2008: 201,6 M€ (N/A) - 528,4 km
2009: 237,9 M€ (N/A) - 591,2 km

(podražitev vinjet) vignette 95€
2010: 290,0 M€ (115 M€) - 606,6 km
2011: 298,5 M€ (142,5 M€) - 606,6 km
2012: 294,9 M€ (145 M€) - 607 km

Iz gornjih podatkov je več kot razvidno, da so pobrane cestnine (iz naslova vinjet kot tudi cestnin za tovorna vozila), po uvedbi vinjet občutno zrasle in, da je bila - glede na pričujoče prihodke - že prvotna cena vinjete v več kot zadostna za zagotavljanje primerljivih prihodkov kot pred uvedbo vinjet.

Dejstvo:
- prihodki iz naslova cestnin so se v času od pred vinjetami do sedaj povečali za skoraj 100%
- stroški plač so v vmesnem obdobju narasli z 26M€ na 32,6M€
- potrebe po povišanju stroškov dela seveda ni, saj DARS za svoje poslovanje zaradi vinjet potrebuje manj zaposlenih kot prej
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55 € for a yearly vignette was just a populist price. And in 2008 it wasn't even available, only 35 € for a 6-month vignette, which is like paying 70 € for a yearly vignette (still quite populist).
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Old September 13th, 2013, 08:12 PM   #4871
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besides, Switzerland also has a populist vignette... anyway, I think in 2009 the pricing had to be changed, but not that much as it actually was (from 55 to 95€ for a year)
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Old September 13th, 2013, 08:48 PM   #4872
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Old September 17th, 2013, 01:16 AM   #4873
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Do small Slovenian villages have street names?
I was wondering because in Trieste province many villages (with a consistent Slovenian population) don't have street names at all. You only have, as personal address, the village name followed by the house number: for example Duino 56, Dolina 120, Bagnoli 47,... instead of the usual street name + number + village.
This characteristic it's pretty rare in Italy, usually every street has its name even in villages. I was wondering if this come from the times those villages were united (ethnically and politically) with Slovenia during the empire. Trieste city and Muggia, traditionally Italian, have normal naming-numbering scheme.
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Old September 17th, 2013, 01:38 AM   #4874
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No, most do not, just like Slovenian villages in Italy. Interesting how it's different, I never noticed that!
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Old September 17th, 2013, 02:11 AM   #4875
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Many villages have just one road, so it's not a problem to find the right number, but many of them have several roads, so it can be difficult.
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Old September 22nd, 2013, 05:40 PM   #4876
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Hello, when will A4 between Ptuj and croatia be finished?
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Old September 22nd, 2013, 06:55 PM   #4877
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Who knows.
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Old September 25th, 2013, 08:15 PM   #4878
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These price increases for the vignette are totally unheard of. In exchange I expect tiny Slovenia to finally build A4 Ptuj-Gruškovje. 110 € a year for these few stretches of highway between A and HR is unreasonable. Especially if you consider the terrible conditions on route 9 (Ptuj-Gruškovje) and some other roads that take you to Croatia, paired with the obvious lack of interest to build roads towards the Croatian border. This is not just about money... this is pathetic, Slovenia!
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Old September 26th, 2013, 12:10 PM   #4879
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the same question and similar remarks on page 227

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...=#post98726257
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Old September 26th, 2013, 04:44 PM   #4880
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These price increases for the vignette are totally unheard of. In exchange I expect tiny Slovenia to finally build A4 Ptuj-Gruškovje. 110 € a year for these few stretches of highway between A and HR is unreasonable. Especially if you consider the terrible conditions on route 9 (Ptuj-Gruškovje) and some other roads that take you to Croatia, paired with the obvious lack of interest to build roads towards the Croatian border. This is not just about money... this is pathetic, Slovenia!

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